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Just a comparison of these three chemicals for their anxiolytic and sedative properties and dangers and what not.
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Benzos Phenazepam vs etizolam vs pyralozam
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Psychedelic Jay
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They are all equipotent.
Phenazepam has a really long half life not too much in recreation.
Etizolam has the most recreational effects and nice reasonable duration...
Pyrazolam is a water soluble short acting benzo... Not too much in recreation.
Phenazepam and pyrazolam are mostly anti anxiety benzos...
Phenazepam has a really long half life not too much in recreation.
Etizolam has the most recreational effects and nice reasonable duration...
Pyrazolam is a water soluble short acting benzo... Not too much in recreation.
Phenazepam and pyrazolam are mostly anti anxiety benzos...
crazycatman
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Phenazepam is problematic (aka several day long blackouts) because it has a very long half life, is active in single mg quantities (bitch to weigh out accurately) and was usually sold in powder form.
Etizolam is more sedative than pyrazolam, has a relatively short half life and is usually sold in pills so dosing is easier. Has less horror stories associated with it than phenazepam. Has some anecdotal online claims about having a milder withdrawal than other benzos. You may also want to read this - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...m)-warning-(Blepharospasms-possibly-permanent)
Pyrazolam is mostly anxiolytic and not really recreational (mostly used to reduce anxiety from other substances).
Classic benzo dangers apply to all (mixing with alcohol, addiction, ..).
Etizolam is more sedative than pyrazolam, has a relatively short half life and is usually sold in pills so dosing is easier. Has less horror stories associated with it than phenazepam. Has some anecdotal online claims about having a milder withdrawal than other benzos. You may also want to read this - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...m)-warning-(Blepharospasms-possibly-permanent)
Pyrazolam is mostly anxiolytic and not really recreational (mostly used to reduce anxiety from other substances).
Classic benzo dangers apply to all (mixing with alcohol, addiction, ..).
Phenazepam just seems like the ultimate recipe for disaster: ultra potent, very long half-life, and - here's the real killer - apparently it has a very long onset of action. This I can't confirm first hand because I've never tried it, but I have heard and read several times the onset of phenazepam is unusually long compared to other benzos, so people try a bit and wait for a while and then when they feel nothing happening they try a bit more... and sometimes try a bit more again!!! And then BLAM! it all hits and you have a multi-day blackout.
I understand that the key to using phenaz is knowledge of its half-life, potency, and long onset time, AND proper measurement. A few people on this board claim to have used it successfully and without issue after reading up on it and taking every precaution possible - as should be done with any super-potent substance.
Anyway, etizolam and pyrazolam I have tried and can therefore comment on subjectively. I think etizolam's great. I personally prefer it to alprazolam because I feel that it doesn't hit my brain in such a heavy way and I feel like with etizolam I can still get a decent night's sleep with minimal disruption to REM sleep.
And... I may be in the minority here, but I love pyrazolam!
I don't use benzos for recreation (I personally don't find them to be fun or euphoric at all), just as an anti-anxiety tool and a sleep aid. So pyrazolam does a nice job of removing anxiety with minimal effect to motor coordination or mental clarity.
I understand that the key to using phenaz is knowledge of its half-life, potency, and long onset time, AND proper measurement. A few people on this board claim to have used it successfully and without issue after reading up on it and taking every precaution possible - as should be done with any super-potent substance.
Anyway, etizolam and pyrazolam I have tried and can therefore comment on subjectively. I think etizolam's great. I personally prefer it to alprazolam because I feel that it doesn't hit my brain in such a heavy way and I feel like with etizolam I can still get a decent night's sleep with minimal disruption to REM sleep.
And... I may be in the minority here, but I love pyrazolam!
I don't use benzos for recreation (I personally don't find them to be fun or euphoric at all), just as an anti-anxiety tool and a sleep aid. So pyrazolam does a nice job of removing anxiety with minimal effect to motor coordination or mental clarity.
crazycatman
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For me etizolam is the best of these more or less legal benzos and pyrazolam is just underwhelming, but that's an individual thing.
And op, if you want to try phenazepam anyway read a few of the horror stories it caused so that you can avoid doing the same mistakes.
And op, if you want to try phenazepam anyway read a few of the horror stories it caused so that you can avoid doing the same mistakes.
Lady Codone
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Only done etiz and phenaz, but here's my thoughts:
*Etizolam feels identical to other common benzos (Xanax, Ativan, etc) and lasts about as long. Great for deep sleep and mildly euphoric when combined with stimulants.
*Phenazepam is NOTHING like any benzo I've ever taken. I'm not just talking duration but actual qualitative effects. Barely any sedation but total cognitive clouding to the point I believed I had some sort of dementia. Three days of insanity. Never again.
*Etizolam feels identical to other common benzos (Xanax, Ativan, etc) and lasts about as long. Great for deep sleep and mildly euphoric when combined with stimulants.
*Phenazepam is NOTHING like any benzo I've ever taken. I'm not just talking duration but actual qualitative effects. Barely any sedation but total cognitive clouding to the point I believed I had some sort of dementia. Three days of insanity. Never again.
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Yea etizolam sounds like the best to me too.
I want to treat my insomnia but for the doses needed phen would have me clouded constantly, not really my idea of a good time
I want to treat my insomnia but for the doses needed phen would have me clouded constantly, not really my idea of a good time
Knowing all this I had no problems dosing phenazepam I just dosed extremely low at the beginning and I knew I cannot weigh out 1mg with a miligram scale so I had to find some other method.
One day I overslept and I was non anxious all day but not too disnhibited, the memory of the day is very foggy though.
Apart from that I never had a problem and luckily I quit phenazepam after taking it for a moth with minor withdrawal.
After a few months off I could apreciate etizolam more because obviously when you take a long lasting bezo alö the time etizolam cant show its potential.
Psychedelic Jay
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I like pyrazolam for one reason, It is water soluble...
I micro filter all of my solutions after a paper filter... This is much to much pill matter to run in a wheel filter... I ruined one.
I micro filter all of my solutions after a paper filter... This is much to much pill matter to run in a wheel filter... I ruined one.
Psychedelic Jay
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It is too potent to sell if it isn’t in pill form, which is the only form.
This is to make an IV solution... I mix it with buprenorphine... 1mg/.5mg (bup/Pyraz) Solution... it is my withdrawal solution... Edit: I meat 1mg/.5mg not 2mg/.5mg
It is devestating to not filter all that shit out off the solution... LMAO It is very effective.
I microfilter after a rough coffee filter to prevent my micron filter from clogging...
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