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Benzos Phenazepam: round 2

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ky?

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last year i foolishly made the mistake of underestimating Phenazepam, and ended up taking 500mg of it, blacking out, then discharging myself from hospital after fighting with doctors.

apparently i kept dosing, and then forgetting i dosed, so i dosing again i managed to ingest 500mg of it before blacking out and losing about 2 weeks of my memory.

a few months later, and i want to give it another attempt.

so i want to know what dose is best to start at, and how can i stop myself from redosing? or is it just a case of self control?

the reason im so eager to phenazepam work is because of how long it lasts. it seems like a very cost effective drug if i can learn how to use it responsibly
 
Create a solution of ethanol and phenazepam by dissolving the phenazepam in a high proof (75% or greater) alcohol. Everclear works best for this, although you can also use Bacardi 151, anything with a lower proof will not work as well.

You'll probably want a ratio of 1mg/mL, so if you have 500 mg you'll want to dissolve it in 500 mL of ethanol. Mix the two, and shake until the phenazepam dissolves. Now you have an easy-to use solution that you can measure w/ a volumetric syringe that you can get for free at any pharmacy.

However, if you do this, MAKE SURE to label the bottle, and store it where no one will come across it casually and pour themselves a glass. The benefit to this method is that measuring doses is foolproof, but the downside is that OD'ing on a benzo/ethanol solution is much more likely to be fatal than benzos alone.
 
I highly recommend PRETENDING you learned something from your last phenazepam experience.

Avoid this benzo like the plague. That's not the answer to your question, but come on, you should know this already.

The problem isn't just accurately measuring doses, it's the compulsive redosing that phenazepam is notorious for..
 
i live in the UK and i believe everclear is illegal here

im guessing that 38% vodka wont quite cut it? :p
 
I would like to try Phenazepam but no one around where im from has even tried it :( actually most havent even heard of it, LoL!
 
Does high proof ethanol work for etilozam too? What else might etizolam be soluble in? I ask because the damn powder is coating the inside of an RX bottle and I want to get every bit of it and the best way is to put a liquid inside and shake it so the powder gets in the liquid, but i want it to solute. What can I use? Would isopropanol work (rubbing alcohol).
 
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I just bought a pre-mixed phenezepam solution, 1mg = 1ml

lets see how things go
 
the problem with phenazepam is that you never really know how much youre on, as it doesn't give obvious signs at different doses really and the half life is 2days-2.5days or less I can't seem to figure how long it
takes for my body. So unless you dose like less than once a week or try to compensate for an unknown halflife(I've/am trying.. very frustrating even with a program I made to assist and keep track) you will never know when you aren't on phenazepam, eventually leading to dependency. It happened to me, it may happen to you. The half life is just too damn long.
 
DexterMeth said:
propylene glycol ..can't source you, but the rest of the internet can.

Although I don't think you can get it OTC like higher proof alcohols.
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Sourcing is allowed for harm reduction items.

However, Bluelight does an awfully poor job at creating/enforcing rules if you ask me, as in Cannabis Discussion sourcing grinders is against the rules. However, I have argued in the past - successfully - that grinders ARE harm reduction items; Bluelight just doesn't care to adjust the rules to reflect this known reality.

So yeah DM; I don't know if we're "allowed" (lol @ "allowed") to source propylene glycol... but as I'm sure it's a harm reduction item (it'll help people from overdosing without realizing it on phenazepam so they can liquid measure accurately) I'll link it in my post.

If the admins/moderators of Bluelight are going to infract me, they're going to infract me for reducing harm. And I simply wouldn't feel bad for it at all if it went to prevent one phenazepam overdose. :) Instead of trying to re-join staff (ha... that'd never happen...) I'll just be here to reduce harm on my own pace, not on "Bluelight time" (the most dysfunctional, un-tracked of all time measurements EVER).

Whether you just want 50mL, or 5 gallons, this site has you covered. I bought 100mL from them and I still have most of it.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Sourcing is allowed for harm reduction items.

However, Bluelight does an awfully poor job at creating/enforcing rules if you ask me, as in Cannabis Discussion sourcing grinders is against the rules. However, I have argued in the past - successfully - that grinders ARE harm reduction items; Bluelight just doesn't care to adjust the rules to reflect this known reality.

So yeah DM; I don't know if we're "allowed" (lol @ "allowed") to source propylene glycol... but as I'm sure it's a harm reduction item (it'll help people from overdosing without realizing it on phenazepam so they can liquid measure accurately) I'll link it in my post.

If the admins/moderators of Bluelight are going to infract me, they're going to infract me for reducing harm. And I simply wouldn't feel bad for it at all if it went to prevent one phenazepam overdose. :) Instead of trying to re-join staff (ha... that'd never happen...) I'll just be here to reduce harm on my own pace, not on "Bluelight time" (the most dysfunctional, un-tracked of all time measurements EVER).

Whether you just want 50mL, or 5 gallons, this site has you covered. I bought 100mL from them and I still have most of it.
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Thank you for the link, I was looking for this stuff to get an idea on price and was having issues finding a site that looked legit. I've been toying with the idea of getting some phenazepam and my friends want to try it too. But there is no way in hell I'm trying it without taking the proper steps to know exactly how much I'm consuming. I've blacked out on a benzo before, I don't fancy the idea of losing a week. ;)

Every time I'm close to ordering some I read another horror story and put it off. By the time I work up the balls it'll probably be a lot harder to find.
 
hmm. done about 8ml over 3 hours this morning, and im not sure if its working or not. i have absolutely no idea what to expect from it

i just feel kinda spaced out, like a zombie, but not in a bad way. pretty relaxed. i feel like i should take more to get more of the feeling, but i know that is definitely NOT a good idea.
 
^if you took 8mg then that's about as good of a high as you're going to get before you start slurring your words and falling over. Phenazepam is a bit subtle in effect, 1mg should relax you unless you have a benzo tolerance. Always be super careful about redosing, many people end up forgetting they dosed and keep dosing, it's happened to me a bunch of times, phenazepam also takes a fairly long time to kick in.
 
Not meaning to be an asshole, but reading phenazepam stories is seriously hilarious and entertaining.

I wouldn't take the drug again...
 
hit 10ml tonight, and poured the rest of it down the drain.

feeling very very relaxed right now. this is such a soothing an calm feeling. the feeling that i imagine Buddhists feel while they meditate

will definitely be getting this again in the future
 
if you don't want to redose take it once and tell your girlfriend or friend to hide it somewhere you wont have access to it, that's dangerous, loosing 2 weeks memory lol, never heard of that before, please be safe
 
righty, done about 20ml over the course of the day.

suddenly its midnight. i mustve nodded off.

this is not a noticeable 'high', its just slightly lifting my mood, it makes me more confident and talkactive too!

this is pefect! now i just need to learn to control myself and do it responsibly
 
ky? said:
righty, done about 20ml over the course of the day.

suddenly its midnight. i mustve nodded off.

this is not a noticeable 'high', its just slightly lifting my mood, it makes me more confident and talkactive too!

this is pefect! now i just need to learn to control myself and do it responsibly
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I'd back off, I know you said you poured the rest down the drain, but suddenly you've taken 10 more mg assuming 1ml = 1mg. This stuff as a long half life, meaning days. If you've taken 20mg on top of 8mg a day before you're probably getting close to black out territory. Judging from the fact that you think you "nodded out" you might already be in the middle of one and haven't realized it yet. :(

Check in and let us know how its going...and please don't take anymore for at least a few days. It'll take awhile for it to work its way out of your system.
 
ah, let me clarify. i ordered a single bottle of pre-mixed 20mg solution, and was injesting it slowly thoughout the day, then when i took the final dose i poured the rest now the sink, which im not hating myself now because i reaaaally want just a little bit more.

which just make me feel even MORE GLAD that i flushed it :)

but yeh, im very happy with this feeling, very calming 'floaty' feeling, and i feel kinda motivated to do stuff that would otherwise bore me to death (i.e cleaning the house)

overall, i'm very pleased it went well this time :) cheers guys
 
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