Stimulants pharmaceutical stimulants and enlightenment

[steiverson]

I have used stimulants for treating ADHD for about 15 years now. In this same time I have been awakened to some
ideas that seem to be validated by modern science; reality is much more complex and simultaneously less solid than
we previously understood. I can say with absolute certainty that my comprehension of the scientific evidence would
not have been possible without the use of pharmaceutical amphetamines. Whether this is because the meds are
alleviating my symptoms, or something else I cannot say for certain. My hypothesis is that after a certain
chemical threshold is reached, the adhd is just a different way to process raw data, and the stimulant is only
increasing the cycles per second operations in the entire cerebral cortex. this would seem advantageous when
attempting to comprehend concepts of great complexity and abstraction. I wish i had the education to properly
express how this works; i only know it does. I have never learned my multiplication tables, dropped out of
high school before i learned trigonometry, yet i held a 4.0 gpa in college (for 3 semesters, granted) and began
to research higher dimensional geometry while the meds were active in my system, just because it seemed
interesting. I have learned a great deal about myself, the universe, and perhaps, what lies beyond all of it. now,
when i take my 'brain batteries' i use every minute to deepen my understanding of the true nature of reality.
I am beginning to connect with others who understand what i am talking about and my personal views and
observations seem to be sound and accepted. However, arriving at this place in my mind by way of the specific
drug i have used (Adderall) seems less common. I am writing this to attempt to contact anyone who has
experienced anything similar with this medication. thank you for your time.

 

[dirzted]

Excuse me if i ask you something that may sound offensive... but-

If you had never taken amphetamines and read this post, would you not look at it with some feeling of mockery present? In the sense of, dude, let's see you come down, write this down again, and feel just as passionately about it and have it make the same amount of sense to you as it did when you were twacked.
I've been in way too many speed benders that led me to write down pages and pages of what I thought was the solving of the mysteries of the universe and then when i looked back upon them (and they read as absolute and utter nonsense that made absolutely no sense), all there validity instantly vanished ahahaha. I'm sorry man, I can't say for sure that you're wrong, but then again, I'm pretty damn sure your wrong.

(Of course stimulants DO aid in cognitive processes, but there is no documented potential of them being used in a way that absolutely warped the mind set of the user in that he was able to increase his thinking capacity exponentially. College students would be winning random ass nobel prizes left and right if such a thing were true)

 

[steiverson]

thank you for your honesty, and I don't take any offense at all! in fact I have been looking for someone to talk straight about all this. I never meant to imply stimulants exponentially increased intelligence, simply that they may allow people to think in ways otherwise impossible, and that learning new concepts while in the altered state leaves the unaltered mind with new information. The long term cognitive processes seems to change (not always for the better) which may be used advantageously in certain very specific areas of thinking. I am intimately aware of the difference between twacked out and 'normal' : it feels like i don't have access to a large part of my brain. this was the first thing i noticed in 6th grade when I first got the diagnosis (subsequently asperger's has been added and debated as a diagnosis) and when I took the meds for the first time: i could think! whether it was clear and normal is debatable. but the problem I have (that wont clear when i 'come down' is that the ideas are not mine; its quantum physics. the properties of matter that physicists like hawking and greene write about. I don't mean to say I gain superpower, i just seem to see the connections. Maybe im still that kid in 6th grade amazed at being able to finally read and understand something longer than a bazooka Joe comic strip! idk, but that's why i posted here; anyone who has any experience with long term adderall use and weird stuff that turned out to be true leave a long detailed breakdown of what is going on.

 

[dirzted]

thank you for your honesty, and I don't take any offense at all! in fact I have been looking for someone to talk straight about all this. I never meant to imply stimulants exponentially increased intelligence, simply that they may allow people to think in ways otherwise impossible, and that learning new concepts while in the altered state leaves the unaltered mind with new information. The long term cognitive processes seems to change (not always for the better) which may be used advantageously in certain very specific areas of thinking. I am intimately aware of the difference between twacked out and 'normal' : it feels like i don't have access to a large part of my brain. this was the first thing i noticed in 6th grade when I first got the diagnosis (subsequently asperger's has been added and debated as a diagnosis) and when I took the meds for the first time: i could think! whether it was clear and normal is debatable. but the problem I have (that wont clear when i 'come down' is that the ideas are not mine; its quantum physics. the properties of matter that physicists like hawking and greene write about. I don't mean to say I gain superpower, i just seem to see the connections. Maybe im still that kid in 6th grade amazed at being able to finally read and understand something longer than a bazooka Joe comic strip! idk, but that's why i posted here; anyone who has any experience with long term adderall use and weird stuff that turned out to be true leave a long detailed breakdown of what is going on.

I'm so sorry i misread your post, of course if you have a legitimate diagnosis of ADD or ADHD, than your meds will allow you to process information and produce information at a much greater efficiency (if the meds are effective). It's just that there's quite alot of speed ramblings on BL and i kind of immediately assumed it was one of those. (Me being a previous poster of those, read my blog post lol, i honestly keep it as a reminder to keep me sober). I understand the potential to grasp more abstract subjects under the influence of ANY drug, but still, for most speed freaks it's nothing more than a spontaneous combustion of consciousness if you will. In my experience it was very similar to that being a Non-ADD adderall abuser for multiple years (although not my primary drug of choice, i still used it weekly), so that's where my perspective comes from.