Benzos Oxazepam withdrawals

[What was it?]

Well here I am....got what I deserved. Thought Oxazepam is a joke and took 60-120mg daily in one hit for the last 8 days. Today I tried to stop and I've got the full withdrawal spectrum happening: Insomnia, anxiety/panic attacks(very randomly and erratic, comes and goes) feel scared and paranoid, looking in the mirror is unpleasant, shaky hands etc

Is it safe to go cold-turkey and how long will these WDs go on for.....please assist me....I'm not feeling very well. Should I perhaps taper? I still have 28 30mg tabs but I really dont wanna take any and go CT if possible....I just want to be rid of this shit....its soooo scarey. What was I thinking binging on benzos for more than a week....

Whoever said opiate wuthdrawals is a walk in the park compared was right.....with them one mainly hurts and isnt shit-scared and psychotic.

I do sincerely hope I am just talking myself into being in WDs and this shit goes away tomorrow.....dear me dear me.

 

[kokaino]

Oxazepam is such a weak benzo and it's metabolism is so slow, I don't know why you'd be having this kind of reaction to it after only 8 days of usage. I don't think any of the much stronger short-intermediate acting benzos like temazepam, lorazepam, or flunitrazepam would cause withdrawals after only 8 days of high dose use - let alone humble ol' oxazepam.

I'd expect very minor withdrawals from the 3 I mentioned after heavy usage for 8 days (rebound anxiety, etc), but nothing full blown. I wouldn't expect anything from oxazepam.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Oxazepam is such a weak opioid and it's metabolism is so slow, I don't know why you'd be having this kind of reaction to it after only 8 days of usage. I don't any of the much stronger short-intermediate acting benzos like temazepam, lorazepam, or flunitrazepam would cause withdrawals after only 8 days of high dose use - let alone humble ol' oxazepam.

I'd expect very minor withdrawals from the 3 I mentioned after heavy usage for 8 days (rebound anxiety, etc), but nothing full blown. I wouldn't expect anything from oxazepam.

Do you mean benzo and not opioid?

 

[kokaino]

Do you mean benzo and not opioid?

Yes! LoL, I corrected it.

 

[Dilosets]

Yea, that was weird. Only 8 days! I woulda thought you could go cold turkey of ANYTHING after just eight day's use!
But since it was only 8 days, the symptoms will probably not last long. Just hang in there!

PS! Many seem to thing oxazepam is a "kind" benzo, but really, it isn't. It's a benzo like the rest of them. Addictive.

 

[emingos]

yeah its weak, but not that weak imo, im and longtime benzo user and have used very many different benzo's still i think oxazepam is a very decent benzo altho a bit weak...

i think its about 20mg oxazepam = o.5mg alprazolam if im not mistaken, its not acurate but its a guide line...

PS! Many seem to thing oxazepam is a "kind" benzo, but really, it isn't. It's a benzo like the rest of them. Addictive.

true! a benzo is a benzo...

to the @OP maybe taper down a bit,, but after 8 days you shouldt be having the worst withdravels you should be safe to ct it.. but im no doctor so dont take my word for it, you could use remaining tabs if it gets to hard or you could use them to taper a bit.. i would do a ct tho...

best of luck with it! msg me anytime if you got quiestions

 

[scottd420]

The shitty thing is if he keeps dosing he may become dependant from the long halflife, as it will be days longer before it actually clears his system--so, if these aren't "real" w/ds then he is sure to be in real ones by the time it clears. Maybe try a day with no dosing, sure it sucks, but it may save him 2 more weeks of hell. Tapering would take a while, unlike opioids.
What does everyone else think?

 

[What was it?]

thanks for all the kind feedback guys. Im sure I have WDs...probably a combo of the Oxazepam, nicotine, lack of sleep and all the alcohol the last week. I quit all 3 yesterday and the overall withdrawal picture has been like a mix of them but the benzo features being the standout....I was a wreck at work and my arms were shaking....tremors....it got worse so I took 1mg alprazolam and went to the hospital...they then sent me straight back to the GP and I explained my situation. He said after 8 dasy on 90-120mgs of Oxazepam and alcohol I cannot cold turkey.....it will give WDs. He scripted Diazepam and the following taper (remember my 120mg Oxazepam is equal to 80mg diazepam): first 3 days 2.5mg morning and evening, and then maintain for 3 days....drop by 1 mg there after (so 4mgs per day for 3 days) and so forth until at 0 mgs after about 2 weeks. He said i will be a bit nervous and edgy as the dose is low but he wants to try and get me through it as soon as possible.

The low dose surprises me but I will give it a go. What do you guys think?

 

[boodha]

It's just rebound anxiety, I get it from similar benzodiazepine usage, take it as a nice warning incase you do actually get hooked on benzodiazepines, but it will be gone in a few days of looking after yourself, be safe


Just read your last post, I have had similar symptoms to u taking benzodiazepines further may or may not be the best idea, depends if 8 days was not preceded by heavy benzodiazepine use previosly that may change things, but think if it was so hard now, if you fuck up your taper where will u be then? Benzodiazepines are such a subtle but overpowering addiction be very safe dude

 

[What was it?]

It's just rebound anxiety, I get it from similar benzodiazepine usage, take it as a nice warning incase you do actually get hooked on benzodiazepines, but it will be gone in a few days of looking after yourself, be safe


Just read your last post, I have had similar symptoms to u taking benzodiazepines further may or may not be the best idea, depends if 8 days was not preceded by heavy benzodiazepine use previosly that may change things, but think if it was so hard now, if you fuck up your taper where will u be then? Benzodiazepines are such a subtle but overpowering addiction be very safe dude

Thanks bro, I so sincerely hope you are right. I'll keep on posting from time to time here until I am through it. i am determined to get it done asap and STAY CLEAN of benzos forever. They are just not worth the danger.

 

[adder]

Oxazepam is such a weak benzo and it's metabolism is so slow

Oxazepam is very weak both compared to other benzodiazepines on a weight basis and with its affinity at benzodiazepine receptors but its metabolism is VERY FAST. Just look at it, nothing on nitrogen, 3-OH group to form a glucuronide + oxidation at para on phenyl group and conjugation. This one is actually cleaned out of body very fast. It's rather short-acting.

Anyway, what is going on here was already said. It's a rebound anxiety and rebound insomnia. I can imagine ingesting 60-120mg of oxazepam was partly caused by its short action i.a. - I mean if OP had 2mg clonazepam pills I don't think he would be so keen on re-dosing (it might happen once but on the second day I don't think so. This is going to die out itself. It's just the price of abusing benzodiazepines. They are so easy to get addicted to even if one takes some alprazolam for anxiety, so you don't really have to abuse them to get addicted. The history of benzodiazepines use is very similar to barbiturates. Eventually, doctors were eye witnesses of their patients having strange "side effects" from treatment and there were scientific proofs that benzodiazepines are actually only a bit better than barbiturates if we can really compare them.

There are no safe benzodiazepines. A person with no tolerance can get really addicted to weak benzodiazepines like oxazepam, clorazepate, or temazepam (yes, I know the majority of BL users find temazepam second most dangerous one after flunitrazepam but I have totally differently experiences with temazepam, it's not banned in my country and nobody shoots pills with it and I don't think Polish junkies are "stupid" as they really have some achievements in "how to get high in a strange way").

 

[kokaino]

yeah its weak, but not that weak imo, im and longtime benzo user and have used very many different benzo's still i think oxazepam is a very decent benzo altho a bit weak...

i think its about 20mg oxazepam = o.5mg alprazolam if im not mistaken, its not acurate but its a guide line...



true! a benzo is a benzo...

to the @OP maybe taper down a bit,, but after 8 days you shouldt be having the worst withdravels you should be safe to ct it.. but im no doctor so dont take my word for it, you could use remaining tabs if it gets to hard or you could use them to taper a bit.. i would do a ct tho...

best of luck with it! msg me anytime if you got quiestions

No, a benzo is not a benzo. Studies have shown that there is a big difference in their toxicity indices. Oxazepam being the least toxic and temazepam being the most toxic. This was not just one study claiming such, many studies corroborated that original British study in 1993.

Forget mg to mg measurements, that means nothing - that's just potency by weight. It has no effect on the side effect profile of any benzo. There are many benzos which are less potent than alprazolam and clonazepam, but still these less potent benzo's typically have a far more powerful overall effect on an individual, especially hypnotics (ie. nitrazepam, temazepam, lormetazepam, flunitrazepam, etc)

 

[adder]

It's all true about different toxicity but it concerns overdose cases. I can't really imagine a 20mg pill of temazepam to be toxic. Also putting nitrazepam, temazepam, lormetazepam, and flunitrazepam into one sack is strange as they differ both in active doses and actual interfering with GABA system.

Temazepam is actually the least potent (by potency I mean here concentration in mol, not its power compared to other benzodiazepines on a weight basis). Nitrazepam is twice as potent as temazepam in this aspect and lormetazepam and flunitrazepam are totally in a different league.

 

[What was it?]

Oxazepam is very weak both compared to other benzodiazepines on a weight basis and with its affinity at benzodiazepine receptors but its metabolism is VERY FAST. Just look at it, nothing on nitrogen, 3-OH group to form a glucuronide + oxidation at para on phenyl group and conjugation. This one is actually cleaned out of body very fast. It's rather short-acting.

Anyway, what is going on here was already said. It's a rebound anxiety and rebound insomnia. I can imagine ingesting 60-120mg of oxazepam was partly caused by its short action i.a. - I mean if OP had 2mg clonazepam pills I don't think he would be so keen on re-dosing (it might happen once but on the second day I don't think so. This is going to die out itself. It's just the price of abusing benzodiazepines. They are so easy to get addicted to even if one takes some alprazolam for anxiety, so you don't really have to abuse them to get addicted. The history of benzodiazepines use is very similar to barbiturates. Eventually, doctors were eye witnesses of their patients having strange "side effects" from treatment and there were scientific proofs that benzodiazepines are actually only a bit better than barbiturates if we can really compare them.

There are no safe benzodiazepines. A person with no tolerance can get really addicted to weak benzodiazepines like oxazepam, clorazepate, or temazepam (yes, I know the majority of BL users find temazepam second most dangerous one after flunitrazepam but I have totally differently experiences with temazepam, it's not banned in my country and nobody shoots pills with it and I don't think Polish junkies are "stupid" as they really have some achievements in "how to get high in a strange way").

Adder you are right. It is starting to die down....had some slight tremors and shakiness in my hands yesterday and took 5mg diazepam (so close to nothing).

Today I haven't taken anything and besides a very very mild shakiness in hands and some twitches there's not much going on anymore.

Depending on how the evening goes I might take 2-2.5mg of diazepam before bed or even try to skip totally and see how tomorrow goes.

Hopefully this is all over by Sunday evening - very scarey experience.


With regards to temazepam I tend to agree. I can binge on them 50-80mgs and stay awake whereas on diazepam I'd fall asleep.

 

[What was it?]

Did 3 shots of tequila and 2 mg diazepam from around 12-2am.

WDs seem to be gone.

Will report back in within the next 24-48 hours as I intend for those 2mgs to have been the last. If it works it will be a sign that a rapid taper from a 8 -day high-dose benzo binge is possible. (not that I want to repeat it, but give others help and hope that experience the same short-term WDs/rebound anxiety/insomnia)

 

[What was it?]

1mg before sleep - no noticeable withdrawals except for some insomnia.