Out of balance

[Pavlovsvodka]

Age-24
Previous aas experience- I have run two pro hormone cycles (mdrol and pplex), and a cycle of test with a dbol kicker. Proper pct was followed during ph cycles. Test cycle was aborted due to girlfriend freaking out and threatening to end relationship. Proper pct was not followed. This was aprox 18 months ago.
Height: 5'9
Weight: 200
I have not worked out in a year. And have not worked out consistently for 18 months. I have squandered all aas and non aas gains through poor diets, a bjj related injury (fractured humeris) and a 7 month incarceration.
Bf: I am purely guessing 20%
I believe I have some gyno, although most may be a result of extra fat due to my sedentary lifestyle as of late. I have no energy, very poor strength, and lackluster endurance at best. I'm not complaining- I was once a very disciplined and regimented athlete and I let it all slip away. My body is quite unbalanced, the majority of the fat has parked in my midsection. Over the next month my goal is weight loss and core stregtheningI am going to be training crossfit (cannot fucking believe I'm joining the cult). Although I've never been tested, I have a strong suspicion my testosterone levels are low for my age as evidenced by lack of energy, constant fatigue, and low libido. I'm 24 and I feel 50. I'm ready to rededicate myself to lifting and achieving maximum supplemtal synergy.
Question one- is there anything that I could take to counteract any pre-existing gyno? I seem to remember reading about arimidex being an option for that years ago.
Question two- in regards to fat loss- Do the cons outweigh the pros in regards to clen/t3?
Question three- if I were to run clen/t3 should I combine w a low dose (400mg) of test to prevent catobolizing remaining muscle?

 

[Renz Envy]

1) Gyno is caused by your prolactin levels getting out of balance. Prolactin has an inverse ratio with dopamine. There are various supplements in which increase the production of dopamine and will lower prolactin over time. Other than that, drop a ton of body fat. Avoid drugs and alcohol or if it's bad enough, get surgery.

2) Yes, but personally I wouldn't run t3 if I weren't on cycle.

3) Clen by itself has anabolic effects on retaining muscle. It's not uncommon to mix T3 and clen with test, no.

 

[Pavlovsvodka]

It's certainly not at the point where surgery is warranted. The best way I can describe the issues is to compare it to the nipple tenderness that occurs the first few weeks of a dbol kicker. There is no firm tissue buildup behind the nipples however there has been some "sideboob" accumulation.l I am certain that my dopamine levels are out of wack (as evidenced by depression). I was placed on some psych meds under poor medical advice about 6 months ago and I have a feeling that that combined with my overall laziness threw my endocrine system as well and neurotransmitter balance into a tailspin. I do not drink, the only mind altering substance I consume is MJ and thats a once or twice weekly kind of thing. The part that has confounded me the most is the overall change in bodytype. I feel like I've progressed though all 3 body types to a degree from Ecto/Endo prior to AAS to Ecto/Meso while on AAS to Endo at this point. Although I reasonably certain there's no biological basis for this- other than hormonal and neuro-transmitter down regulation as a response to stress and a sedentary lifestyle. What supplements would you recommend for dopamine production. I was under the impression that cortisol also plays a significant role in stress and fat retention. Also, to clarify your answers to 2 and 3, are you saying you personally would only use clen or clen+test if you were in my position. Is thyroid suppression your concern with t3?

 

[Renz Envy]

T3 without testosterone makes a lot of people feel weak. It'll also cause more catabolism without test than its worth.

If I wasn't going to use test I would run clen by itself. I'm still probably not going to touch T3.

 

[-Guido-]

If you are t 20% body fat I would lower your fat through diet and routine alone until you get to about 9%. From there you should lift for a year natty, then jump into steroids. You have muscle that has become water logged and soft, and your body fat is high.You need a proper foundation and you need to be as lean as possible for hormones to work properly and give amazing results.

As far as pre-existing gyno, you could try using Letrozole at high dose for 2 weeks to see if it diminishes. If it doesn't surgery is your only option.

 

[-Guido-]

T3 without testosterone makes a lot of people feel weak. It'll also cause more catabolism without test than its worth. T3.

T3 is a bitch. Without Testosterone it burns muscle along with fat in large amounts.

 

[Pavlovsvodka]

If you are t 20% body fat I would lower your fat through diet and routine alone until you get to about 9%. From there you should lift for a year natty, then jump into steroids. You have muscle that has become water logged and soft, and your body fat is high.You need a proper foundation and you need to be as lean as possible for hormones to work properly and give amazing results.

As far as pre-existing gyno, you could try using Letrozole at high dose for 2 weeks to see if it diminishes. If it doesn't surgery is your only option.

Thank you Guido. I appreciate your advice. What do you think is a more effective measure to doing this?
A) following the lean gains plan (caloric intake split over 3 meals over an 8 hour span) and adopting mark rippetoes starting strength (I got my best results using some of rippetoes methodology doing 5x5s
B) doing crossfit 3 days a week and compound lifting twice a week while splitting meals 5x a day
C) What caloric intake and p/c/f breakdown would you reccomend for the aforementioned routines

Sorry to continuously ask questions. When I was in the best shape of my life it was through following the advice of men with a lot more experience than I.

Also, is there anyway you or Renzo could elaborate on supplements that aid in dopamine production?