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Opiates don't cause me any euphoria?

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I've been experimenting with various opiates, T3's, Dilaudid, Percocet, etc. I take ery small doses and the ROA is always oral, except insuffilation for the Dilaudid. I have no background of experimenting with any other drugs besides marijuana, meaning my tolerance is absolute zero. I started off with T3's, I took 4 of them and didn't feel anything except a bit of a caffeine buzz. I said okay, well codeine is the weakest opiate out there, so maybe I need to try something stronger. That's when I tried two 5 mg percocet. This made me feel really shitty. I was sweating, felt fainty, couldn't keep my eyes open, and had no positive effects from it whatsoever. I tried insuffilating 2.5 mg of dilaudid of crushed up spansules from an ER cap, and this also made me feel like shit. Lots of nausea, couldn't get up off the couch, weird sounds in my ears, and an overall feeling of depression and wishing it would just go away. I read everywhere that opiates are a death sentence of addiction when you experiment with finding the one you like, I find this not the case with me. Is it possible that a person can just not like opiates at all? I've never used them for actual pain, it's always been recreational use. I do have ADHD, a learning disability, and Asperger's Syndrome, so I'm not sure if they affect people differently in conjunction with those disorders.

I'm not trying to get addicted to opiates here, I just want to feel this "blissful amazing feeling that feels better than anything else" that my friends are talking about. Should I just assume that opiates aren't my drug? or is there another reason that may be preventing me from feeling the euphoric amazingness that people claim they provide?

Thanks.
 
All drugs affect different people differently. Some people dont like opiates, just as some people dont like vodka. Sounds to me that opiates arent for you. Save yourself alot of money, and potentially your own life, and just leave them alone. There are other, effective, and safer things to try if you are exploring altered consciousness.
 
it takes a while to appreciate the high and you have to have a decent base tolerance to hit doses where you get massive euphoria; tho my gf has taken opiates many times with me and just doesn't like them. I don't know, i find it impossible to understand but different drugs for different people. best not to get into opiates anyway of course.
 
It sounds like a combination of expecting too much and having a non-existient tolerance. For some individuals the euphoria of opioids is just not really all that it's hyped up to be. All the opioid lovers will scratch their heads and wonder why some people find heroin is not absolute bliss, but the fact remains that it just makes some people really sick and dizzy.

Is it possible that a person can just not like opiates at all?
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Very much so. If you got nausea, dizziness, sedation etc it sounds like the drug was definitely having an effect. You're just experiencing all the side-effects of the opioids too, so that's why you feel shitty. There are never really any guarantees with drugs.

Stick to other drugs, or reduce your dose. Some people will tell you "do more to get your tolerance up" but that is a foolish idea for obvious reasons.
 
Sounds like you dosed too high on the percs and dilaudid. I'd tell you to try a lower dose because its sounds like you're hyper sensitive to opes, but the best advice I can give is to leave it alone. It's not gonna take you anywhere good, and the high isn't worth the consequences. Trust me (and everyone else) on this one.
 
I started with taking a Vicodin before bed to mod off into a wonderful sleep. Then after awhile they had a reverse effect making me hyper not tired. When I tried heroin a tiny bit felt like a good beer buzz, no euphoric bliss, but too much n I was puking for hours. After awhile I got the bliss , and a hardcore addiction . It's not worth it. If you want bliss have a few drinks and an orgasm! Bliss!
 
If you don't want to become a drug addict stay away from opiates! Really is like smoking. Try it a few times and your hooked for life! It's a shitty way to live - trust me. I wish everyday I never started and became the drug addict I am today. SAVE YOURSELF!!
 
It really can just be a case of you never being able to get enjoyment from opiates.
It could be linked in part to your other conditions (ADHD, aspergers) but im sure other sufferers of these conditions are able to enjoy opiates.
There could be an element of dosing too high or low, as opiate users are always walking the line of taking enough to gain the side effect of euphoria while avoiding the unwanted side effects of sickness and dizziness (not to mention dangerous levels of cns depression!).
I think its more likely though that your unique body chemistry just isnt set up in such a manner that you can enjoy opiates.
I have this issue with alcohol, i just cant tolerate it. Even in doses that most people would consider small it makes me feel ill with little or no euphoria, the exception is if im drinking and taking cocaine but thats a whole other story of stupidity and ignorance!lol
Dont worry though, im sure if you keep experimenting then you find some substances you enjoy enough to do yourself some damage with and im a firm believer that everyone has (at least) one drug that they can fall in love with and some of us are unlucky enough to find it.
 
Some people just don't get any euphoria from opiates. A former friend of mine who was a total cokehead got a bottle of dilaudid 4's once despite me telling him not to add another addiction to the coke. Much to my surprise not only did he show no signs of getting addicted but about 5 days later after only using a few pills he gave me the bottle of them for a trade because he wasn't getting a high from them and got constipated to fuck and nauseous from them. And he was only sniffing 4mg's at a time which i wouldn't even feel. I know lot's of chronic pain patients who took opiates everyday for years and except for physical addiction they had no trouble quitting and said it was no worse then a bad flu over all. And these where people on massive doses of oxycodone, morphine and dilaudid for years.

So like every drug it's the luck of the draw really. If i where you i would be thankful because if you have to take them in the future for pain you won't have to worry about psychological addiction so much.
 
Thanks for all the replies.

I really do not have an addictive personality which is why I'm comfortable experimenting with such substances. To further the discussion I'd like to add that I have also tried cocaine for the first time a few days ago, did 75mg - 100mg lines and did not like how I felt at all. It induced chest pain and made my jaw feel like it was a weird type of itchiness, like I wanted to grind my teeth. Other than that, it was not so pleasant at all. So I rule that out as another drug that isn't for me. I just figured opiates seem to be the most common one for the best euphoric effects. Normally I just drink a few beers with 1.5 - 2mg clonazepam for euphoria, but it is very weak, and I don't like having to mix CNS depressants if I can avoid it.

I really am starting to believe that ADHD causes your brain to interpret drugs differently. I am on Dexedrine 15 mg BID and even those don't make me feel much of anything, which is why I'm going to witch to a methylphenidate. Next in line to try would be MDMA and if that doesn't cause me anything worth while, I guess I'm done experimenting. Benzo's are my favorite at this point as it stands.
 
You might find methylphenidate has similar side effects to cocaine as its mechanism of action is very similar. personally i find methylphenidate to be like a cross between MDMA and coke, full of energy with alot of teech grinding and a very euphoric peak. But i dont have ADHD so i cant say how you would react. However, a friend of mine who has ADHD said they made him feel calm and focussed but not speedy in anyway.
Ketamine and its related substances can be very euphoric, not that im encouraging you to try it....just sharing some info.lol
 
My advice is too stay well away but it's your life choice.
I have never used any other opiates but Heroin & for a 1/3rd of my life was an addict, trust me your on a very short ride to a place that's a long way down my freind, I know I will hear the usual talk of 'i won't get addicted" etc but if I had 1p for every time I have heard that line I would be living in Dubai by now.

Stick to your weed, you will live to regret the day you ever heard the word opiates, trust me on that one.
 
Ayyyeeee buddy I'm in the same boat.
150mg of hydro in 3 days and 2 points of heroin in a night both with no tolerance, and I got no euphoria.
I got very warm and itchy and my head was kinda disoriented a bit but nothing else, not even any nods.
 
I don't think its your ADD, because I have it as well, and I love opiates like no other. Some people just don't enjoy them. Be thankful you're one of them. It's a hard habit to kick once they get you.
 
I don't really find opiates all that euphoric if euphoric at all they tend to just make my muscles feel relaxed and make me sick.
 
Mr_Magpie said:
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Though I am clean now every time I see someone out scoring I get that same "hungry" feeling as I used to, I truly think once you have had an addiction to strong opiates you are never 100% the same.
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Agreed. After I've been clean for awhile I can go about my day to day for the most part and not even think about it. Then I will be around someone who has something, or even just be in a state the I associate with them, and I want nothing more than to say screw it and give my guy a call. Sucks too, now I can't even chill at night and listen to certain music because it triggers cravings so bad. When kicking back and listening to Pink Floyd is ruined, well then that's just a sad day all around. :)
 
.:Holy::Toast:. said:
Ayyyeeee buddy I'm in the same boat.
150mg of hydro in 3 days and 2 points of heroin in a night both with no tolerance, and I got no euphoria.
I got very warm and itchy and my head was kinda disoriented a bit but nothing else, not even any nods.
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Those are some high doses to be taking with no tolerance, so please be careful. Just because you aren't experiencing the positive effects of a drug doesn't mean you can't experience the negative effects of them, so be sure to keep that in mind.
 
What do roller coasters, mustard, and opiates have in common? There're people that don't like 'em.


Damnit, heroin, why can't you just be addicting... just once...
 
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