opiate tolerance with abstinence

[Feelin-u4ia]

I'll get straight to it, Not my dog, not my lizard not Swim. Me I am an addict and this is my first time 6 days clean, it's going to be 15 days clean total. Now I'm not trying to quit im trying to give it half a month of clean to see if I can drop my tolerance even just for that ONE time (I'm aware it comes back way fast) Now I'm a daily user of anywhere between 300-700 mg oxycodone ORAL. Now on my return of the opiation I'm going to IV idk how many Roxie's when they appear in my hand. I was thinking should I get two rigs ready and slam like 400mg? Please state your opinions

Edit little more info: I'm basically a opioid full Bull: highest single dose of hydrocodone was 1,060 mgs cwe Ofcourse!

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

Wow I'm truly shocked that no one head two cents to put into this thing

 

[TheLostBoys]

I'll get straight to it, Not my dog, not my lizard not Swim. Me I am an addict and this is my first time 6 days clean, it's going to be 15 days clean total. Now I'm not trying to quit im trying to give it half a month of clean to see if I can drop my tolerance even just for that ONE time (I'm aware it comes back way fast) Now I'm a daily user of anywhere between 300-700 mg oxycodone ORAL. Now on my return of the opiation I'm going to IV idk how many Roxie's when they appear in my hand. I was thinking should I get two rigs ready and slam like 400mg? Please state your opinions

Edit little more info: I'm basically a opioid full Bull: highest single dose of hydrocodone was 1,060 mgs cwe Ofcourse!

I don't condone moving on to harder opiates but you have a high tolerance to oxycodone & IMO, you should stay away from.the needle.

Is this your 1st time using the needle? If so, think twice because you may think the needle will save you money now, in about 2 to 4 weeks, you will be shooting the same amount of money you were spending with oral usage.

Why don't you move on to oxymorphone, its a really strong opiate & destroys oxycodone IMO/ime........& lasts longer as well but be careful, you can easily OD on it compared to oxycodone.

 

[legalizeall]

my 2 cents: never slam pills. Askin for trouble since some makers put fillers in there that dont dissolve and there can be a few makers for the same type of pill. So unless you know what each one puts in there pill your just gambling with the safety of your body. The heart is not a fan of things like that. Also tolerance takes a long time to go down and a 1/2 of month is not even close to enough time to make any difference. I would say 6 months and more your gonna notice a difference. So i would quit or just keep using because that two weeks isnt gonna do anything for you as far as tolerance goes.

Another thing is dont be shocked cause people didnt flood your thread with responses. I dont know what time it was for you but this thread posted at 5:30 AM on wednesday on my end and thats is probably not the most popular time this place sees action. People are sleepin or going to work etc. Other threads come in and i could see how it might be lost in the mix for a little bit. Bumping it by saying your shocked is probably not the best way to get attention. Your just askin for someone to say something smartass or just ignore it all together. HOw about something like "hey just wondering if anyone had some opinions on this for me" or "i know it was kinda of odd time but was wondering if its cool to bump this cause its important to me." People respond better to politeness than pushy. Good luck and be safe.

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

Sorry fellas didn't realize it was 5 am I am away from California in Europe for vacation. Now I didn't a few hours of research to find that a lot of people say 2 weeks should drop tolerance VERY greatly but will build up quickly, then some BUT LESS said tolerance won't really budge in 2 weeks. Do I'm assuming it's a to each it's own thing? Any more personal expirence a with going clean after a 300-400 mg daily habbit would appreciate it . Also I have slammed oxymorphone, didn't enjoy it as much as hydrocodone, I find hydro to be the most mood lifting and euphoric perhaps maybe even more then oxycodone. Anyways it got thru the wds very easy with daily function just fine... Just slight discomfort. I thought it would be hell with a tolerance like mine. I'm on day 7/15 now and the physical wds and rls have honestly stopped at about day 3... By day 4 I was 100% even by day 3 (which is supposed to be the worst) I was prolly 70% okay. Just stating the wds comments for those planning to go thru it. U can do it! It was easy, just stay busy and fight thru the fatigue and insomnia. You will feel awsome! I feel so great it's almost a shame that I'm just waiting to fuck up lol. Oh well atleast I'm not lying to myself and I'm upfront about my love for opiates.

 

[Jabberwocky]

this is just my experience with opiate tolerance, but once you've played in the major leagues of dosages and screwed with all the big boy opiates, your tolerance is never going to go back to 0. about 11 weeks ago i detoxed from a habit of around 1.5-2grams of oxycontin a day, i tried using opiates again recently and nope, tolerance still kicking like a mule. maybe it takes longer to lower your tolerance, i don't know, but whenever i've stopped using opiates for extended periods of time i either drop tolerance maybe halfway to previous amounts and then it shoots back up within the space of a couple of days, or it just doesn't disappear.

thats' just my experience and i'm a reckless son of a bitch. everyone reacts differently but i honestly think i've fucked whatever opiate receptors there used to be left in my brain anywhoo.

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

Well I'm not sure if i mentioned my highway dose was in excess 1.1 gram in a SINGLE dose, not they out the day, so if that's not in the "big leagues" then idk what it ;p I have read that us high mg guys take a lot longer to lower tolerance but u said 11 weeks ago u detoxed but for how long? Did u just get passed the wds or?

 

[Jabberwocky]

i'm not dicksizing or anything, but i was taking around 2 grams of oxycontin, 6-10mg of xanax, weed, alcohol (no idea how much) and 2000mg of gabapentin a day. enough to kill a small village. i'm lucky to be alive frankly. i detoxed for 2 weeks using methadone to taper me off. during that time i suffered tremendous withdrawal symptoms for the following 5 weeks. i'm still not off the benzos. i've been out of rehab for 11 weeks, including the time i was in there thats 14 weeks.

i tried to dose around two weeks ago at 800mg of dihydrocodeine. nada. nothing. poof. might as well have given me sugar tablets. the day after i tried 120mg of oxycontin. nada.

i'm not condoning this usage whatsoever. but the tolerance takes a long time to de-regulate in my opinion. i've detoxed several times, and my tolerance has always remained level so to speak - but that's just my brain chemistry. honestly, if you're taking those kind of doses, it's time to stop.

 

[Erikmen]

I don't condone moving on to harder opiates but you have a high tolerance to oxycodone & IMO, you should stay away from.the needle.

Is this your 1st time using the needle? If so, think twice because you may think the needle will save you money now, in about 2 to 4 weeks, you will be shooting the same amount of money you were spending with oral usage.

Why don't you move on to oxymorphone, its a really strong opiate & destroys oxycodone IMO/ime........& lasts longer as well but be careful, you can easily OD on it compared to oxycodone.

Agree with you. I was just wondering if that would be the case where Duragesic ´fentanyl`patches wouldn´t work better so needle is avoided. Maybe starting with 50 mcg +.
I know that 700 mg oxy develops a great tolerance. And, Methadone why not? Feasible that would be my 2nd thought as Fentanyl may be dangerous at first and difficult to predict how much.

 

[Cliffy78]

my 2 cents: never slam pills. Askin for trouble since some makers put fillers in there that dont dissolve and there can be a few makers for the same type of pill. So unless you know what each one puts in there pill your just gambling with the safety of your body. The heart is not a fan of things like that. Also tolerance takes a long time to go down and a 1/2 of month is not even close to enough time to make any difference. I would say 6 months and more your gonna notice a difference. So i would quit or just keep using because that two weeks isnt gonna do anything for you as far as tolerance goes.

Another thing is dont be shocked cause people didnt flood your thread with responses. I dont know what time it was for you but this thread posted at 5:30 AM on wednesday on my end and thats is probably not the most popular time this place sees action. People are sleepin or going to work etc. Other threads come in and i could see how it might be lost in the mix for a little bit. Bumping it by saying your shocked is probably not the best way to get attention. Your just askin for someone to say something smartass or just ignore it all together. HOw about something like "hey just wondering if anyone had some opinions on this for me" or "i know it was kinda of odd time but was wondering if its cool to bump this cause its important to me." People respond better to politeness than pushy. Good luck and be safe.

That's gonna end really bad bro, y not plug them???

 

[Erikmen]

High/low tolerance depends on what you taking out and it works differently for everyone. Tolerance for Methadone takes for ever, could be more than a month or so. Oxys though is different. In 21 days, it should be ok to decrease. In terms of harm reduction, I would take 40 mg down every 2 weeks.
Good luck!

 

[Snakevillon]

Be careful tolerance drops FAST durring withdrawl it will go back up even faster but I have noticed that even when I miss just a day when I score a significantly lesser amount gets me off btw I shoot H every day so idk if it's the same with u oxy losers I means users (;

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

In my opiate addicted head I keep fighting the thoughts of just staying away from opiates when I get back but then I keep wanting to go back to using like once a week back when I used to get NO physical wds at all. I mean as I have mentioned my wds are very mild, mostly just irritability, RLS, and slight tiredness/weakness with maybe a day or two of the runs. But I was thinking to ask, how long do I have to be sober in order to take one dose and not get thrown back into FULL BLOWN wds? I know of I use a few times because of my body prolly being so used to it that I'll get wds. But I'm assuming after using this one time in 2 weeks that maybe I get lucky and either not expirence wds. Or atleast a very mild case of them? Any thoughts

 

[Feelin-u4ia]

Jesus I'm looking back at all these threads back when I was junkie... In shock of my dedication and motivation to get high just one more time... I am now over 10 months clean from ALL ILLICIT drugs and let me tell you all this, that light at the other end of the tunnel REALLY does exist and if you do survive a opiate addiction I will tell you you will live out your life extreamly happy. I am more in love now with my girlfriend of so 5 years, she stuck it out with me and I proved to her that I would do this for her, me and our future family. I cannot stress enough how HAPPY and Great life is, I am EVERYDAY now extreamly euphoric just waking up and not in withdrawals, having a job, and soon to be a business owner. Please my fellow junkies, I wish to speak with whom ever feels like they are totally stuck, I don't do any of that "I'm a addict in a fuck up 12 step bullshit" I made my own system which is 1000 times more effective and I call it the keep your self happy system. I threw out ALL the negative stress and even all the negative people. I quit my job that was a 40 dollar an hour job to swap it out with doing what I always wanted to do, a mechanic. I have so much advice and so much help to offer to even the most HOPELESS feelings people. I know this post in this section is off topic and people here are rather TRYING to get advice for getting high but still I wish to disclose this in every section so if there is any soul out there that are might be able to give my advice to, GREAT!

 

[Jabberwocky]

quick story so you get the idea:

was shooting 1-2G's of heroin daily; went into a detox for 5 days but I NEVER do methadone and always go w/ librium and clonodine; its just better since I am already an opiate addict the shit methadone or bupe they give will do ZERO!

anyway, I left detox a day early and have only been off dope for 5 days now. I always shot w/ benzo in the system and would/could shoot 1/2G w/o a problem. went home that night shot a half G and woke up 8-12hrs later on the floor.

I live alone, so I could have died; now this is where THE SICK ADDICT COMES IN. I just woke up from an OD on the fucking floor in my living room. I still had a half G of dope left; so what do I do!? well, I shot another half G. 6 hours later I come to and I am on my couch (at least it was a couch this time) w/o a clue in the world what is happening.

the people who I knew never called or worried cuz they thought I was still in detox but I was home OD'ing left and right.

point being - BE FUCKING CAREFUL! sure, you can have a killer habit but drops quick w/ many opiates and also picks back up quick w/ many opiates.

 

[pillman1224]

yeah when you take a long tolerance break DO NOT start back where you left off. do you mind if i ask if your using tar or powder. feel free to tell me to fuck off if you feel its none of my business. i am just naturally curious.