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oldsKool pills VS newsKool pills

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Ok this is a bit of a question for those of us who have been around long enough to have had the chance of eating green CU's, Gold CK's and even more recently yonex's.
I dont want to know which pill you think has been the best of all time because thats based too much on set and setting.
What I do want to know is do people think the quality that seems to be flooding us regularly, ?'s, alphas, TP's, BB's, HQ's more recently JA's are as good as the fabled Green CU. I personally never got to try a green CU but were they just good because there was nothing else avaliable at the time? Or were they really something different. As far as the Gold CK goes I think the pills around now are easily on par with it, and the Yonex im still not sure... there was a big drought before them and I havent had one recently to compare. (will do soon seeing i saved 3
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Smurf if your still lurking I know you loved the CU's
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. Anyone else care to comment?
 
I wouldn't classify Yonex as an old skool pill; I had my last Yonex at Kryal no more than two months back, but from what I've munched over the past 12-18 months, Yonex stand out as my favorite. We went through a few of these, and everyone we gave them to were equally impressed. Some didn't like them because they were quote "too strong", but when you love the total dump of a good pill, these were the bomb. I haven't yet had any other pill that delivers such a seretonin dump as those Yonex. Whether it was the strength or the mix in the pill or the type of MDMA (there are 32 types if I remember correctly), Yonex got you totally chopped, off one pill, and for at least 6 hours. I haven't had anything else that can do that. Long live Yonex!!
As far as the current crop (new school) pills go, the last few batches have been pretty good - easily worth the money. I talk here of the orange and green "?", blue/green BB's, the orange alphas and the orange JA's that are on us now (which are very nice pills I must say). I have had all of these pills at various times, and have found all to be very good; not Yonex strength, but definately good MDMA pills which give a nice clean roll. It seems that different people have different pills at the same time. We had the BB's, then the green "?", and now orange JA's, while others we know were getting pink hearts, 007's, TT's, Hondas and a few others. I guess it depends on who you know. But right at the moment, if you're not getting good clean MDMA pills, you don't know the right people.
 
I have a funny feeling us east coasters are spoilt.. I've heard varying reports on the quality of stuff outside of VIC/NSW and it looks pretty grim but this is a little off topic
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This should be interesting, theres so many things that make up what people call a decent/hard/good roll, chemical wise, setting wise, what people pre-empt about the blasteed things and so on..perhaps these criteria should commented on when comparing the roll's of today to the ones of yester... year?
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Yeah it's hard to say. I have had green elephants from way back and pills all the way in between, and to be honest. The hammers/yonnexes hit me as ahrd as the first green mitsis. I think it's much of a muchness. It all depends on how much the manufacturer puts into them. And I'd say that the green elephant I had a few years back had maybe 120-150mg and the yonnexes about the same, so who knows?
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I blame MacDonalds. They taught people how to cut corners in production in order to increase profits.
Recent pills seem to be a lot more messy. ie they contain adulterants which are cheaper and easy to make/get and they fuck you up more noticably than a purer pill. I've noticed lately that a lot of people are rating the really clean pills quite low, because they don't get really messed up on them. You know how super clean pills you can almost forget you're on them in the right situation, cos they aren't messing with your head at all (eg. peach Motorolas from Sydney, end of last year and I think white domes from every city, just recently.. yet to sample one myself tho).
If you're a producer of anything you supply the demand, and people seem to want to get fuct up, regardless of how awful they might feel in 8hours time. Really nice clean pills are being avoided by a lot of people because they don't give the effect they're after, and as a result there's no encouragement to make them, because they're hard to sell.
Myself, I won't eat a messy pill. If it's only slightly messy, there's nothing else available to me, and I'm already too smashed to care, I'll eat a half. So for me personally, oldskool pillz are better. I still have a half a dark pink heart (from Sydney, June last year) because of this
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Your right about the yonex not being oldsKool enough. Sorta put it in because it was a stand out pill like the green CU. What I was getting at was, is it a standout pill because there was nothing to compare it to at the time or becuase of its quality?
 
I would put it down to quality of MDMA production as well as the amount that was going into those pills - ie the Yonnex's, the fabled fabled neveryettoberepeated June Green CU's from last year.
The current batch of goodness, the ?'s, alphas BB's etc etc for me whilst they are good (some of them quite good in their various colour incarnations) just don't have quite the same appeal as say, the Mitsi Turbo's, grey fish, Orange cK's etc.
I put it down to a different source that is making the current batch's of yummyness.
 
I think this is a hard one for anyone to be sure of, unless u could erase your tolerence I think lab results are the only way to be sure, I think the good ones now though would still be around the same strength as a year or two ago. I have been stashing really good pills for over a year now, but even so it is near immpossible to gauge them against other pills, as if u drop one after the other the first one will obviously release most of your seretonin. And if u space them weeks apart u forget the peak from the other pill.One of the best ways to tell if 2nd 3rd and so on pills are of high quality after taking a pearler for your first is to see if u start to get very minor hallucinations, I always find that towards the end of the peak of the second pill u start to hallucinate if the pill was strong, dunno for sure just my 2 cents. This is how ive tried to compare some pills. For eg. an apricot rolex followed with a windmill then a blue lightning had me having mad hallucinations, not out and out things that arent there, just the kind where u look around and think u see stuff in the corner of your eye, or mates growing beards, wearing glasses. I kept a lot of the rolexes from early last year and have used them as my benchmark, I think this is due to them being my first real good pill, hovever I still consider them to be maybe just a tad over some of the recent belters: blue lightnings, hammers+yonnexes, windmills, all the questions, blue alphas, bbs, yellow smileys, green and white butterflys, red lightnings, pink domes, yellow R's just to name a few ive sampled here in perth. Though I'd have to say that I think the recent hqs are on par with them, ive got a couple of each in the stash, just trying to work out best ways of comparing. Ideas anyone??
 
I reckon the new pills are better, besides the odd old ones eg: Gold ck's, Green Cu (never got to have one, but I guess they are good). These new batches like TP's, Question marks, Alphas, Melodies, Yonnexs, Motorola's are shit hot pills, and everyone should realise that. If we got anything like a green question mark about this time 2 years ago we would have thought it was the best pill in the world. It all comes down to tolerance. Everyone thinks old school pills are better because that was their first few pills. We'll never get that feeling again, and that kinda pisses me off but oh well!
 
for me the apricot rolexes early last year are the best I've taken in 2 and a half years, but from the looks of it the new pink domes could give them a run for their money. I think you top quality pills haven't changed much in quality in that time, but I do think we are getting more good pills than ever. Even in perth we've got about 6 + different awesome pills to choose from at the moment, a couple of years ago that was completely unheard of, 2 or 3 at any 1 time was an excellent run, now we're just plain spoilt
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There is no way to compare the old school pills with todays xtc pills.I mean in all seriousness i have never come in contact with an e as STRONG or as MESSY as the green CUs and the ORIGINAL "BLUE" and then "GOLD" CKs.They were the most strongest ive ingested yet.On the other hand i seem to find a lot of the ez i can get my hands on are really CLEAN such as the infomous "?"s and the As (B&O)I think in each era there would be several pills witch would outdo each other.VALID POINT?
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spoke to pilltest.com, they said not only will they give you whats in the pill, but in what amounts! that means we can get quantatative analysis! sweet.
Now, who's got some original gold Cks, anyone with a green CU? etc etc etc... finally we can find out which one is the best. $30 aus per pill for a test, is reasonable, so who's gonna be the first guinea pig to send one in? I'm thinking I might send a pink dome in...
 
hmmm... yonex's..............
double's match n e one???
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I have been fortunate to have had the Gold GK's from Late 99, Apricot Rolex, Green CU (2nd batch last year, I wish had the May ones) and Yonnex. I honestly think those 4 are on a higher pedestool then the rest I have had, regardless of what else there was at each time to compare them too. I must say the Orig HQ's late last year in terms of strength was up there with them, but they were very messy and something was a tad wierd with them (made me and lot of other ppl hallucinate abnormally). Don't get me wrong the current state of affairs are very good as mentioned I.E. BB's, Alphas, ?, TP's (I rate the TP's similar in strength/weirdness to the Orig HQ's. However the difference with these is they don't give me the "OMG this is amazing feel" like the 4 above did. Yes my tolerance is higher naturally then last year, and I take this on board as a valid point...... however these 4 pills were spaced out evenly over diffenent intervals of the year, making the tolerance issue less relevant. IMHO I rekon the closest thing to Yonnex since I.E Strength and Cleanliness was the Red Honda's...... but it's only my opinion
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Either way can't comlain with current state of affairs
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I still hv a yonex as well. Im reluntant to try .... hmmmmmm
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Nothing yet compares to the green euros from nearly three years ago....how can one person get so much pleasure from rubbing their toes together whilst someone is rubbing ice on their neck...
oooooooh gimmeeeee gimmeeeeee pleeeeeeez!
 
bearing in mind my tolerance was baby-fresh when I dropped those Green CU's from may last year, I would still rate them higher than any ive ever had.
They were just...*meh*...*drool*
anyone whose had one knows what i'm talking about. aye smurf? aye pinger?
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