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(O-Acetylpsilocin or 4-AcO-DMT/ 120-160mg)-Prophetic!- "The Other" Brain-child

jmd7725

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(O-Acetylpsilocin or 4-AcO-DMT/ 120-160mg)-Prophetic!- "The Other" Brain-child

Ah, a buddy gave me a generous portion of 4-AcO-DMT, which I will refer to in this projection as 4-AcO, on a warm summers eve in late June of 2012. I was 25 at the time, weighs about 185 lbs. and is 6 ft. tall dead on. Also on background, I'm now still 25 years old, nearly 26, and have been tripping since age 17 (first go at lucy) and has gone on maybe 10-20 mushroom trips (oral), well over 50 lucy trips(oral), over 50 MDMA(snorted/oral) trips, and smoked well over 100 hits of DMT (inhalation-if ya didn't know by SMOKE); also, I've done every street drug pretty much, crack(moderate use), cocaine(moderate use), Methamphetamine(twice), and Heroin/opiates(very extensive).

I don't use drugs anymore but for the record I don't use them any less either. Also I am currently taking a semester off graduation with a Bachelor's majoring in Biomedical Sciences(concentrations on genomics and neurobiology) and a minor in chemistry, yes, it is possible to have life after hard drugs! Anyways, I thought that some credentials/background should be given before the gun goes off and the races begin their withering faculties.

Okay so where was I...It was a very warm summers eve june 2012, I had a glass tray which obtianed 3 lines, each consisting of about a tenth and half or .150g or 150mg of 4-AcO, which were given to the tray by my friend. The dosage is not exact, as my friend insufflated it before, he was offered it by his friend and he gave us an amount which was coined "a lot" by his friend; but, he had a great time and insisted that my girlfriend and I do that much to achieve desired effects. Me+GF trust this friend and so, obliged his generous offer. I asked "are you sure this is as good as lucy?, "It's better" he replied; and so, I sucked up the powder into the nasal cavity, very little to no burn at first, as the drip came down it kinda got the throat by the balls a bit, but overall not much taste and no burning. So there, drug ingested, smiles all around, and sniffling noses.

After about 10-15 minutes the colors of the room got very vibrant, color description is like that of MDMA, every color kind of dulls in hue but turns up in contrast- a blurry serenade of color begins. This continues to get stronger over the period of an hour. After about 1/2 hour, Me+GF+friend (I will now refer to as US) are sitting in GF+Me living room and since US are all feeling it we start to talk of what we are going to do, as when US trip together US usually go into downtown and ride elevators or walk in the woods or go to the bar, or (insert Myriad possibilities). As we were talking of US's escapades, I noticed that I could not see AT ALL and began to giggle as I placed my own hand in front of his face and could not see it at all. Then I began to roll my eyes around and everything was this brownish reddish kind of blurry paint color and no objects around could be seen, merely this color, as I illustrated with the initiation of "Hand Experiment". I laughed and looked up and kept a slow shroom-like giggle and then I heard his GF and friend begin to giggle as well....US were feeling it. GF said "yeah, don't think I am gonna be able to go anywhere, I can't see either." Friend just kept giggling and responded "Yeah US definitely took more than I did before...hehehehe". Everyone of US is having a pleasant "come-up". Now, after a couple minutes or so all talking ceased, I don't think US said a word to US for the entirety of the intense part of the trip.

So now this blurry brown paint color begins to fade and suddenly I see myself standing, well I'm myself (seeing through my own eyes) but I'm seeing myself within also (very dichotomous and hard to comprehend I know), I put his hand up to this crystalline door and can see his fingerprints being read by himself down to the very molecules which make up the skin. I scan myself in, everything is all good, I am me after all, and I let myself into my "party" in my brain. Now, once scanned in and perfectly versatile, thanks to a passing neuron which threw a suit at me and showed me how to ride the system. This is likened to an intense DMT trip where one gets those strange flowing waves and energies, the neuron may have been just an energy, I didn't know that this was a neuron; but surmised this after wiggling around the system and piecing things together from my knowledge of the brain. I began to think and as I thought he wiggled through networks at the speed of light and saw every little piece of every little thought and saw the organizations of the higher order thoughts (i.e. memories) within my brain. This was much like mixing electrical circuitry(mathematical model for the brain) with nature, a network that works much less rigid than circuits and is more fluid and constantly changing. I could see voltage changes across synapses, was a neurotransmitter traveling through the synapse, or was a random spoken word/memory/a bit of knowledge that was created by the interaction of these synapses. The best part is that I could control which "order" of my "brain."

I wanted to go to. The feeling of my body is nullified at this time, meaning that I didn't know that it existed but I was too busy wigging around my brain to notice any bodily feelings, but I can become a feeling of the body if I wanted to but interpret it as the brain would in an electrical/chemical signal instead of by "feeling" with the skin.

I continues to wiggle around my brain at the speed of light enjoying this new found knowledge of the physiological experience of the process of thought. This is just like crossing over on DMT except with DMT you cannot coordinate what happens with the entities or whatever you wanna call 'em. Everything was very crystalline much like on DMT, but also everything was very "submerged" and fluid/flowy like on mushrooms or lucy (although visuals can get crystalline with either of these drugs but in general ill keep that statement). So suddenly after some time (about 2 ours or so but felt like 5 years, I could wiggle 'round forever like that haha) My eyes are opened and I can see with my eyes again. I looked at my GF and said "WOW!" to which she replied, "YEAH, YEP YEP YEP." The room was very vibrant and colorful. Swirly visuals mixed with crystalline fractal patterns are spinning around the room and I feel very happy/euphoric. My GF suggests another line and so we do one the same size (I assumed that I would not hit the peak he did before but would like to see what the trip is like with "eyes open") and me and GF insufflated yet another line of 4-AcO. The strong visuals and fractal patterns continued and the smile on my face got a little wider as he sat on the couch contemplating all the streaming shots of knowledge he was just given, staring up at the beautifully colored ceiling(it is white, "normally") and enjoying the next 3 hours of life as his trip was brought up a slight notch. Sadly, that peak was not achieved again that night.

Overall, 1 hour mild trip/come-up, 2-3 hours intense awesomeness, then about 1 hour of lasting visuals. So if the other line had not been insufflated this would be about a 4-5 hour trip all together. I had a hard time comparing this to LSD or DMT or Mushrooms as it is entirely a different beast. However, if one likes DMT and one likes LSD and one likes Shrooms you will def like 4-AcO; BUT, if you have done 4-AcO, doing LSD/ shrooms in heavy doses will give a much different experience, trip drugs are always different for everyone so be cautioned always. I have always used LSD or DMT for my brain workings when I needs to relax and get shit together in My head, but this 4-AcO totally took my brain to a place he did not know that it could go. LSD and DMT are cerebral but more attached to the outside world, the 4-AcO brings one into oneself (at higher doses) so it is LITERALLY cerebral. This is how it has come to be SWIMS "other" brain-child, as SWIM did L or DMT first then discovered this wonderful substance (L will always be drug #1 in My book but 4-AcO comes close). Overall anyone looking that has experience tripping, DO IT! AND DONT BE AFRAID OF DOING EXTRA! If you are inexperienced and looking to trip for the first or second time, then this drug is also for you, however, maybe start off with 20-50mg instead of 100-200mg. Us all had a great time and all agreed that 4-AcO was well worth the time it was given! Thank you to all who read and I hope this is helpful in your informations search,

This was a very hard trip to describe so plz post any questions!- thanks
 
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Okay. I edited out all of your swim's and some grammar issues alongside breaking up the paragraphs into something people will read.

Read our BLUA in my signature when you get a chance. Using acronyms to replace yourself in a past-tense story not only provides you little legal recourse, it will guarantee that no one will read your tale. PM any questions that you might have and thanks for the submission. That and they can't bust you for whats already passed through your belly weeks ago.

That is a VERY high dose of acetylpsilocin to be administering nasally of all routes, and I'm glad you had a decent time. It sounds to me like you've an unnaturally high tryptamine tolerance and/or had been using heavy cross-tolerant drugs before this experience.
 
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I'm surprised it only lasted 5 hours at such a high dose. I've never taken more than ~40mg of 4-aco-DMT, but even at a dose around 12mg I'd say it lasts 8 hours.

I tend to count "the comedown" or "residual effects" as part of the trip though, while others may do their math differently. In any case I would have thought 150mg could last no less than 12 hours.
 
At least we know now that the ld50 for this one is working in our favor.

That's a lot of O-Acetylpsilocin the stuff is so expensive it sounds like such a waste, but if you had a good time and no harm was done why not I guess.
 
Thanks a lot for the story :)

great read...

Dangerous dosage advice though, and I believe that doses like 120 mg are so high that you must have a serious tolerance but considering multiple people were okay with it I'd say the product is probably not pure. Not sure what is up with that but there is just no way IMO. I would feel that above 50 mg there might be chances of delirium, even if you could handle it I would expect you to feel shot by a cannon.
None of this is personal, mind you, and I still believe or accept that your dose was probably relatively high but 30 mg is more reasonable.

Anyway this is just what I think, what do I know maybe I'd be surprised.

It wasn't lab tested by any chance?
 
I was tripping so hard in the peak of it that it was hard to report on the residuals I guess. Plus I was in Benzo withdrawal when I wrote it so I may have missed making some of the connections I wanted to.
 
Thanks for the EDIT!!! In my comp. it is broken into paragraphs and it was when I posted...I think. Anyways thanks, I have a lot of stuff going on right now but I am trying to revise this into a better trip report, I wrote this simply because I was in Benzo withdrawal and had to get it out of my head! Sorry to anyone who does not get it and also...EHEM...sorry?...FAAAAACK!
 
HAHAHAHA, It was free for me and my buddy got like 6 grams for "cheap as fuck, don't worry about it"-friend
 
Why? Does it need to be lab tested? And yes the LD50 is in our favor whooooohooooooo!
 
I promise that it was over a tenth, I have extensive use of heroin in my past and I know a tenth by eyeball for sure! The purity of the stuff I cannot identify, but if you cannot tell by the report, I was GONE! This is literally the hardest I have ever tripped in my life! Cheers to all! To all a good shamalamadingdong!
 
If I did not say so, I was so "goners". I was sooooooooooooo fucking dissociated as were the people around me that, sniffing over 100 mg of the shit was not a fucking problem. Read the report and if anyone has had this experience on Ac-O then plz send me that shit because everything I have gotten since then, including what I got tonight, Has not been nearly as good as the first fucking hit I took!...and I swear I took over 100mg forrrrrrr surrrrrree. I was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucked, now can you understand? I WAS FUCKED COULD NOT MOVE AT ALL!!!!!11111oneoneoneone
 
I would like to see this batch lab tested.

^ This. ~100mg orally before I was smart enough to get myself into the habit of using a scale was the most horrifying night of my life, both in intensity and the content of the trip. Within 10-15 minutes of putting the substance in my mouth I'd completely lost contact with this world and had no recollection of it or having ever been human. Given that snorting it you only need 1/2 to 2/3 of the oral dosage, even 50-65mg snorted should have you completely unable to recognise any form of your reality, nevermind 150mg.

There's absolutely no way this was 150mg of pure 4-AcO-DMT. Your trip sounds closer to what I'd experience from around 40-50mg orally, so like 25-35mg snorted, so most likely it was just highly cut down - probably because the person giving it to you clearly liked to snort stuff and wanted to be able to rack up normal "coke size" lines rather than a little tiny bump.

Btw, you should use the edit button under your posts rather than spamming multiple replies ;)

Interesting report man :) but I'd be careful about dealing with whoever you obtained it from if you were led to believe that you were taking 150mg of pure substance.

Are you sure you didn't just misjudge the amount though? He said "a lot", but a lot of 4-AcO-DMT for a snorted dose could be as little as 25mg.

have extensive use of heroin in my past and I know a tenth by eyeball for sure

A tenth of heroin does not look like a tenth of 4-AcO-DMT which does not look like a tenth of 2C-E which does not look like a tenth of MDPV.. etc..

Each substance looks a vastly different amount to another, to give you an example, over the summer I was doing a lot of MDPV and (street) Amphetamine. I thought it was funny how big the MDPV lines looked considering the doses were so small in comparison, so I made two lines looking about the same, one of MDPV, one of amphetamine. The MDPV line weighed like 20-30mg and the amphetamine line was > 80mg, can't remember the exact numbers but it was a huge difference.

This is one of the many reasons why eyeballing is so ineffective, and why scales are must if you have any intention of consuming more research chemicals in the future :)
 
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