NUBAIN & BODYBUILDING = Questions

[DMAIEN ASHBY]

For years (6 to be exact) i have been a domestic supplier of anabolics across the us via the net. I have found that Nubain is one of the best selling products yet it has nothing to do with growing ect. I asked around and after some research i tried it my self. I used an insulin syringe and used 1/2 cc. intramuscular.
It felt kind of like a low grade vicoden - nothing special but considering i can get this shit by the truck loads on a weekly basis...i kept trying it.
Now... here is my question - Is there anything i can add to Nubain to heighten the effects? Someone told me Valium but i tried that and just got sleepy.
Also.... i heard that shooting this stuff intravenously is where you get the addiction problems.
I take it all the time but i could and have quit for months at a time with no withdrawals. That is using it ONLY intramuscularly.

Any input would be helpful. Also... i didnt know that if you guys know this but Nubain is not a controlled drug under the DEA guidelines here in the US.
In Mexico its as hot as cocaine.... but once you cross it, your good to go.


Thanks D Ashby

 

[johanneschimpo]

Shooting is intravenously is how you heighten the effects

 

[DMAIEN ASHBY]

Shooting is intravenously is how you heighten the effects

Yes, but i have a VERY addictive nature... i was trying to avoid shooting intra - instead i was trying to find something i can add to it to make it work better.

Just curious... how much would someone shoot intraveniously? I am 260lbs and pretty lean... if that matters?
Also... how long would the high last?

Thanks for the help

D Ashby

 

[Jamshyd]

Since Nubaine is a mixed opioid agonist/antagonist, there will always be a limit to the euphoria, even if you IV. You can only stretch it so much. IMHO, with something like Nubaine, taking valium will probably enhance the high more than IVing the drug. From what I hear, Nubaine is only a bit more euphoric than codeine.

Please do not go into IV - it might give you a rush (probably nothing special - ie. not worth the risk) but the high would be similar to IM.

The recreational dosages for IV tend to be the same as those for IM. With opiates, as with other tolerance-dependant drugs, never ask for dosage advise without giving your current dose .

 

[DMAIEN ASHBY]

Since Nubaine is a mixed opioid agonist/antagonist, there will always be a limit to the euphoria, even if you IV. You can only stretch it so much. IMHO, with something like Nubaine, taking valium will probably enhance the high more than IVing the drug. From what I hear, Nubaine is only a bit more euphoric than codeine.

Please do not go into IV - it might give you a rush (probably nothing special - ie. not worth the risk) but the high would be similar to IM.

The recreational dosages for IV tend to be the same as those for IM. With opiates, as with other tolerance-dependant drugs, never ask for dosage advise without giving your current dose .

Thanks bro... and dont worry there is no way am i sticking anything into my vein. I was just wondering if there was a way to give it more kick.
I know that it doesnt work near as well when you have been used to taking real opiates like Vicoden or hydrocodone. You will get withdrawal effects if you take them at the same time. I did take some darvacets with my bain once and it seemed to kick it up a little.
Thanks for the help and info though.... i would much rather have hydros then nubain but i cant get hydros easily... but nubain is a different story.

DA

 

[Sphinx (Afterlife)]

For years (6 to be exact) i have been a domestic supplier of anabolics across the us via the net.

want a cookie?

what the fuck kinda shits that who the fuck goes around saying that sounds to me like your trying to source by asking a question that pointlessly involves you stating you sell steroids over the internet in the USA.

If P_mo was here that shit would be edited ASAP but hes in Fiji lucky fucker so your cracka ass game can play out.

See this kinda shit on every bodybuilding board, juice politics™

 

[serengo]

Alcohol will give it a bump, it's unwise to consume more than 2 drinks (or 2oz hard liquor) with it and you shouldn't need more. Alcohol and bodybuilding do not go together. What does your question have to do with bodybuilding??? If you want answers for shooting opiates, try another forum.

 

[belfort]

i was hooked on nubain(astra, then after they stopped making it, went to abbott labs)...i started off skinpopping 25 units at a time, in my shoulder..it felt nice and it gave me energy and made me social.... it lessened pain and overall i liked it alot....i did get hooked but i was fortunate to have a very steady/cheap supply of the drug so eventhough addiction is generally a problem, in my case it wasnt....i lok fonly acxk on my nubain days, i mssthem as a matter of fact...

as for what 'helps' the high, i used to take ephedrine before my workout, and when i finished i would shoot some nubain and it felt awesome.....like others have said, alcohol feels pretty damn good too...PM me if ya want...what kind of bain is making its rounds today, abbott labs???what else??

 

[DMAIEN ASHBY]

i was hooked on nubain(astra, then after they stopped making it, went to abbott labs)...i started off skinpopping 25 units at a time, in my shoulder..it felt nice and it gave me energy and made me social.... it lessened pain and overall i liked it alot....i did get hooked but i was fortunate to have a very steady/cheap supply of the drug so eventhough addiction is generally a problem, in my case it wasnt....i lok fonly acxk on my nubain days, i mssthem as a matter of fact...

as for what 'helps' the high, i used to take ephedrine before my workout, and when i finished i would shoot some nubain and it felt awesome.....like others have said, alcohol feels pretty damn good too...PM me if ya want...what kind of bain is making its rounds today, abbott labs???what else??

I am going to ignore the assholes above who would rather make rude remarks at me instead of helping me .... but i would like to thank you (Belfort) for the nice response.
Yeah... alcohol does help bain but being a bodybuilder ... you try to avoid the alcohol. Allot of pro BBs use X on the weekends because it gets there where they need to be without gaining fat. I refuse to try that shit... just scares me to be honest.
Nubain is as much a part of bodybuilding as a spoon is to heroin users so thats why i came to THIS bodybuilding forum to ask about it.
On the bodybuilder forums i frequent nubain is not allowed in discussion.
Here.... it is. So there is the answer as to why i ask on this forum instead of the opiate forum.
I agree with the ephedrine and nubain mix... it does give great energy.
As for what kind of bain is still around? All i know of is Abbot 20mg10ml in Mexico. Astra was the best... but as with everything in life, all good things must come to an end.

D A

 

[DMAIEN ASHBY]

want a cookie?

what the fuck kinda shits that who the fuck goes around saying that sounds to me like your trying to source by asking a question that pointlessly involves you stating you sell steroids over the internet in the USA.

If P_mo was here that shit would be edited ASAP but hes in Fiji lucky fucker so your cracka ass game can play out.

See this kinda shit on every bodybuilding board, juice politics™

Listen dude - I am not sourcing. If i need "business" i go to the boards i USE for business (Bodybuilding forums where i am well known). I came here to ask questions about other drugs that are not allowed to be discussed on BB boards.
Besides... if you know ANYTHING about MEXICO and ANABOLIC STEROIDS .... there is NO ONE SOURCING anymore.... the DEA shut all 8 major labs down and production has been haulted for a long time.... so what can i source?
Air? Yeah... i can sell you some AIR if you want .... Jezzz man, all i want is a chance to learn.
I like this board. I have always learned from this board. Now i decide to log on and join in and all of a sudden i am Pablo Escobar?

 

[Sphinx (Afterlife)]

Listen dude - I am not sourcing. If i need "business" i go to the boards i USE for business (Bodybuilding forums where i am well known). I came here to ask questions about other drugs that are not allowed to be discussed on BB boards.
Besides... if you know ANYTHING about MEXICO and ANABOLIC STEROIDS .... there is NO ONE SOURCING anymore.... the DEA shut all 8 major labs down and production has been haulted for a long time.... so what can i source?
Air? Yeah... i can sell you some AIR if you want .... Jezzz man, all i want is a chance to learn.
I like this board. I have always learned from this board. Now i decide to log on and join in and all of a sudden i am Pablo Escobar?

LOL you mustn be a very good source cause apparently you've never heard of HUMAN GRADE gear??

 

[BigBenn]

LOL you mustn be a very good source cause apparently you've never heard of HUMAN GRADE gear??

Or for that matter underground gear.

Oh no! mexican steroids are gone! I better load up my pins with 3cc of sterile air.

 

[urbadside]

For years (6 to be exact) i have been a domestic supplier of anabolics across the us via the net. I have found that Nubain is one of the best selling products yet it has nothing to do with growing ect. I asked around and after some research i tried it my self. I used an insulin syringe and used 1/2 cc. intramuscular.
It felt kind of like a low grade vicoden - nothing special but considering i can get this shit by the truck loads on a weekly basis...i kept trying it.
Now... here is my question - Is there anything i can add to Nubain to heighten the effects? Someone told me Valium but i tried that and just got sleepy.
Also.... i heard that shooting this stuff intravenously is where you get the addiction problems.
I take it all the time but i could and have quit for months at a time with no withdrawals. That is using it ONLY intramuscularly.

Any input would be helpful. Also... i didnt know that if you guys know this but Nubain is not a controlled drug under the DEA guidelines here in the US.
In Mexico its as hot as cocaine.... but once you cross it, your good to go.


Thanks D Ashby

Shooting bain, IM/IV-is a waste. it works with fatty tishues just like insulin. A shot of 20 should do you well.

 

[DMAIEN ASHBY]

Or for that matter underground gear.

Oh no! mexican steroids are gone! I better load up my pins with 3cc of sterile air.

Hey Big Benn...

Your such a hot shit on mexican products and bodybuilding?
Just tell me... how much gear is produced HUMAN GRADE in Mexico and…. Just how
Much has this HUMAN GRADE gear gone up in price since the DEA fucked over the Mexican vet companies?

Quality vet - Denkall, Tornel, Brovel, Animal power, Pets Pharma, Loffler where the main producers of VET gear from mexico. VET gear is what the entire BLACK MARKET was/is made of.
I didnt say "mexican steroids are gone forever" u fucking idiot.
I said they are running out... FAST.
All the labs i just mentioned are CLOSED by OUR DEA in conjunction with the MEXICAN government.
Please dude... dont even try to debate me on mexican products when it comes to anabolics. I have been dealing this shit since you where shitting green in your diapers.
HUMAN GRADE GEAR IN MEXICO? Sure... there is such a thing. BUT guess what HOT SHOT .... the prices quadrupled since the DEA shut down the VET labs.
On top of that.. there are not many options when it comes to human grade gear in mexico. Unless you just want to shoot a shit load of test and thats it.

Now... "Underground gear" in mexico? BULLSHIT! Underground shit is made right here in the USA. I used to OWN a UNDERGROUND lab (Mexivet) and me and my partner marketed it like it was made in Mexico so it would sell better.... The heat got to hot so we shut that shit down because it was being made and produced right here in the USA and we where way to open to being nabbed.
Ever since there are a million "bath tub" labs popping up .. Power line, bla bla bla... ALL are produced by someone IN THE USA and NONE are sterile.
They are just the result of CHINA sending powders to the USA so easily and so very CHEAP.

My original post was about NUBAIN ... not to debate YOU with the fact that ALL MEXICAN VET steroids are NOT being made for a while. I NEVER SAID FOR GOOD.
So, please... unless you can help me with my nubain question - i really do not need your childish comments on what "you think" you know about Mexican steroid sales.

Go to MOST bodybuilding boards... and ask who " JJ Insane1" is.... and just how long has "JJ" been in business. Then you will know a little of who "I" am and how LONG i have been in the biz.

Now... back to nubain please.


Thanks to everyone who is actually helping me with my original question.


DA

 

[Sphinx (Afterlife)]

i really do not need your childish comments on what "you think" you know about Mexican steroid sales

I know everything about mexicos steroid markets. Now how you gonna act son?

No need to poser. Did you know 1/2 your mexican steroids are really being made by UG labs pretending to be the Vet labs, as in counterfeiting vet products, which is stupid because vet products are crap, but dumb yanks seem to use em an awful lot. You wont find no mexican gear in europe or south america thats for sure. Even european UG's have to compete with cheap and quality human grade.

The point is you try to make it sound as tho because alot of mexican vet grade steroids are no longer available from the actual makers, that the acquirement of steroids in general will come to a halt. Then I rebuttled with the fact that your a total numbnuts and that mexican steroids represent the smallest of small steroid suppliers in the world, only above UG labs but since alot of vet gear is UG lab counterfeits... y'know. Of course not.

Mexico vet grade counterfeits will be easily available and will flood US market until it becomes impossible to claim that your selling 'leftover' stock from before they went bust. Aka 3 or so years. By then, plenty of other esse's will launch shady vet companies in mexico and other countries and the process will resume, on schedule, new companies, same usual suspects.

 

[DMAIEN ASHBY]

I know everything about mexicos steroid markets. Now how you gonna act son?

No need to poser. Did you know 1/2 your mexican steroids are really being made by UG labs pretending to be the Vet labs, as in counterfeiting vet products, which is stupid because vet products are crap, but dumb yanks seem to use em an awful lot. You wont find no mexican gear in europe or south america thats for sure. Even european UG's have to compete with cheap and quality human grade.

The point is you try to make it sound as tho because alot of mexican vet grade steroids are no longer available from the actual makers, that the acquirement of steroids in general will come to a halt. Then I rebuttled with the fact that your a total numbnuts and that mexican steroids represent the smallest of small steroid suppliers in the world, only above UG labs but since alot of vet gear is UG lab counterfeits... y'know. Of course not.

Mexico vet grade counterfeits will be easily available and will flood US market until it becomes impossible to claim that your selling 'leftover' stock from before they went bust. Aka 3 or so years. By then, plenty of other esse's will launch shady vet companies in mexico and other countries and the process will resume, on schedule, new companies, same usual suspects.

You show your stupidity in your post.
Mexican Vets are LABS ... given AUTHORITY by the MEXICAN government to produce there products. They fucked up and marketed there gear directly to AMERICANS via there web sites and got in trouble doing so.
IF you will take a little time and read what i wrote... you will read that i said IT WILL NOT STOP MEXICAN STEROIDS. I said it will halt it for a while until new companies open and go by the rules the mexican government set.
Just like when TToykko got shut down.... Quality vet popped up as the top seller.
Bro... i am not going to sit here and piss fight with you over something i have done for 15 years and sold internationally for 7 years.
I have been to MOST of the labs in Mexico. I sat in TJ and ate fucking tacos and drank Jose Cuervo with Gorge (the owner of TToykko labs) 2 months before they nabbed him ... i have been there and done that.
If you think everything is going as "usual" then take your ass own down to Mexico and try and find a 50ml bottle of Qv Enath.... hell, try and buy a bottle of QV d-bol for less then $120.00 ..... just 2 weeks ago i paid $14 a bottle.
It IS drying UP. It will slow down. It will eventually get back to normal. But not for a while.
Now... like i said, please take your "know it all" 20 year old knowledge and spew it somewhere else....
My topic is about NUBAIN ... not your constant attempts to act like you know everything about the steroid world.... obviously you do not.

DA

 

[DMAIEN ASHBY]

as in counterfeiting vet products, which is stupid because vet products are crap, but dumb yanks seem to use em an awful lot.

QUOTE]

Hey "Dad" ... ha ha

Funny how all that COUNTERFEIT mexican gear has me 270lbs at 6% bf with 22inch arms all at just 5ft11. .... hey, if thats fake gear then damn i would be as big as you if i had some real stuff hu?

Ha ha ha... all vet labs sell countrefiets ... now thats a fucking laugh.

Dont believe those stats? Go to any REAL bodybuilding forum (professionalmuscle.com) and ask about JJ Insane1

DA

 

[Stunner]

Well I can say this. DMAIEN ASHBY is THE REAL DEAL. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. This board is LUCKY to have someone so deep in the game. Sphinx you have no idea what a baller he is. Oh and JJ I pmed you.

 

[Meanie]

Well I can say this. DMAIEN ASHBY is THE REAL DEAL. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. This board is LUCKY to have someone so deep in the game. Sphinx you have no idea what a baller he is. Oh and JJ I pmed you.

I recognized him from a long defunct board.

 

[BigBenn]

Well if you ARE somebody then pm me what board and handle so that I can see who you are and give respect. Until then I am skeptical of what you have to say as I am with any poster with 10 posts. I had the impression you were talking about the American market supplied by mexican gear. Now it sounds to me like you are talking about the mexican market on mexican steroids. I wont act like I know much about that because... I do not live in mexico.

The bust in the mexican market hardly effects the online bodybuilding community in the US because there are so many other options in the states (underground dom and human grade Int mainly).

My comments regarding underground gear in mexico I think still hold true. I know about 10 years ago there was plenty of underground gear in mexico that went by vet names, but the bodybuilding community knew what was up. We can drop names all we like but if you are what you say you are you know what I'm talking about.