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ShAYZoN

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Is fucking intense.. Me and my friend used to drive around on the back roads listing to Day N Night (Crooker's Remix) and now every time i listen to it i get this feeling.. It's more intense then Nostalgia though.. I have no clue what it is.. But if im just walking around at night lighting a spliff up.. It just makes me so in tune with everything almost..
 
pretty much the only time i feel nostalgia is when im baked. its just not a feeling i have normally.

but yeah, that whole "being part of something bigger than yourself" and "my life has some kind of meaning and my existence is special" feeling is one of the most desirable effects of psychedelics IMO.
 
Sega420 said:
aye but ganj aint a psychedelic.
its a hallucinogen, albeit a mild one, but not a psychedelic in any way.
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. Psychedelic means "mind manifesting." Weed can let you see things from a different point of view. When I first started smoking getting high really was a trip. Often I would come up with new ideas and solve problems differently. I gained the ability to think outside the box through those early experiences. My first time smoking weed was more powerful than my first mushroom trip as far as visuals and changing my thought patterns. Of course marijuana doesn't compare to powerful psychedelics or even a decent dose of shrooms but I would still consider it psychadellic in the same way caffeine is still a stimulant.
 
haha half the day I have nostalgia. Mostly because I moved and I miss all my friends, but yeah I think weed will help with nostalgia
 
Newbierock said:
^ Yeah if your 12.
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qft.

no matter what you say, im gonna say ganj aint a psychedelic. if anything its a sedating hallucinogen.
do you think in different thought patterns (conscious and subconscious)? no.
does it alter ones visual field? no.
does it cause auditory hallucinations? yes.
do you think more logically and calmly? yes.
does it create senses of delusion? no.
does it alter reality? no. it just makes you stoned.

lsd and mushrooms will have you seeing purple unicorns galloping down the street shooting midgets with their laser eyes, all the while you stare in wonderment at your vibrating legs as you melt into a tree..

cannabis wont. its a psychoactive plant, not a psychedelic.
THC on the other hand i would consider a psychedelic, but in pure form.
(as in honey oil, budder, hashish etc)
in order to have a true psychedelic experience with THC one would need to consume some very potent THC extract such as honey oil, and a lot of it.

i personally have full on hallucinated people who weren't even there while on hashish. ( a LOT of it)
its more like an acid trip than stonedness at this potency.



just respectfully disagreeing
 
Damn, haven't u guys smoked some good bubble or oil after loosing tolerence? Or eaten real strong ganja food? I don't post often but u guys are spoutin some misinformation. I mean where does the line between hallucinogen and psychedelic get drawn? Am I missing something? Sega, isn't your arguement based on the fact that iye u haven't hallucinated off cannabis yet u say its a hallucinogen not a psychedelic? I mean if u call it a hallucinogen doesn't that entail having altered perception, for that matter what psychoactive drug doesn't alter perception? What would be the point? I mean ifu smoke ganja like most people smoke cigs (and I have) the effects will be less pronounced but they don't just dissappear. Also all the things u listed (sega) that u think ganja doesn't do, it most def does. Smoke some and tell me u don't see increased visual static. I have had delusions the cops were after me countless times after blazin and hearin sirens far away, that's called paranoia, an effect often discussed in this forum which happens to be a delusion. Then u say thc is a psych but ganja is not, well newsflash man, ganja contains thc. And none of the extracts u listed are pure thc they all contain a shitload of different cannabinoids/terpenes/volital oils etc at verying lvls dependg on method of extraction, strain, purity and storage/age as thc redily degrades in light heat and air. I don't want to ramble to long, but I think I made my point.

And sega why u gotta tell people "you were just really high"? I mean who are u too judge the validity of someones subjective experience? Wouldn't that qualify as a delusion as a result of altered perception?

It would be one thing if u just said that thosse things are ur experiences so far with ganja but ur saying ur exp is the rule. I don't mean to like attack u dude, but I felt like something had to be said, u seem to be a cool bl'er otherwise

Also, although everyone experiences every drug a bit diferently, ur discription of lsd is very innacurate. I know u were exadurating and I lold a bit but u were trying to make a comparison aand u don't have to see lasergnomephants to have a psychedelic exp.
 
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^ the "you were just really high" is an old joke.
you clearly werent around for it to get it.

and if u read my post you'd have seen that i have hallucinated off hashish before.


and by the different thought patterns i meant as you do on psychedelics.
seems my whole post was taken out of context :/
by affecting the visual field i meant like psychedelics do. such as shit breathing, ripplings, morphing, etc.
by delusions i meant like "holy shit i have superpowers" or "i am jesus, i can kill you if i want".

seems i should have worded things a lot better.
didnt mean for confusion but dude.... i dont consider cannabis (the plant material) a psychedelic, but i do consider THC to be. (as on its own with no plant matter is MUCH more potent; ie in the form of hash oil etc)

obviously though hashish etc has virtually no plant matter, and is the precious thc resins, which is the shit that matters
(if only plants grew blocks of hash, eh?)

like i said, respectfully disagreeing.
opinions are subjective.


(and yes i was exaggerating about acid, but then again on high doses you do see some crazy shit, incredibly vividly ;) )
 
ya sorry wasnt around for the joke or w/e

however i dont think the nature of the psychoactivity of cannabinoids is different if they're on plant matter or not. if u get trippy thought patterns on hash u will get it on weed just not as profound of an effect due differences in the amount of smoke one needs to inhale, not its composition. And psychs effect the visual field in countless ways, an overlaying of dull colored static (which is common with ganja) is also to be seen on coming up on other psychs, the difference is the static becomes more intricate and takes more form. Either way seeing shit hardly has to do with the nature of the exp for the most part, its what happens in your mind that makes psychs psychs, psychedlic means mind manifesting

not tryin to troll, just lookin for some intellectual honesty, the effects of hash are = to cannabis the difference is you need to ingest less weight of product with hash... if one is a psychedlic then you gotta admit they both are
 
Were you younger when you would blaze and drive around listening to that song?
A teenager or young adult?

The song just probably reminds you of good times in the past with friends and back when you didn't have the responsibilities that you do now and if you're older now that it's not as easy to do nothing but drive around with friends and blaze all day everyday.

I don't like Kanye, Beyonce, Madonna, Crystal Waters, or even heh ABBA but certain songs by these people and mid 90s dance music reminds me of being very drunk with friends in bars and dance clubs when I was in my early 20s.

When I'm in these types of bars/dance clubs now when I hear the songs by these artists that I equate with being very drunk or drinking booze with male friends and being in a bar/dance club that was pretty much filled with bisexual/gay men but I don't feel drunk or anything.

Heh then there's a live Grateful Dead song from the Blues for Allah album that reminds me of my first LSD trip as a teenager since I was on LSD for the first time and listening to that live version of the song "The Music Never Stopped" on a CD player while riding the bus home from school and the LSD kicked in some and I started laughing as for about 2-3 periods before I was just getting the stimulant effects and I later had a very high dose and intense LSD experience.
 
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Sega420 said:
lsd and mushrooms will have you seeing purple unicorns galloping down the street shooting midgets with their laser eyes, all the while you stare in wonderment at your vibrating legs as you melt into a tree..
cannabis wont. its a psychoactive plant, not a psychedelic.
THC on the other hand i would consider a psychedelic, but in pure form.
(as in honey oil, budder, hashish etc)
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That's kinda like saying eating a quarter of a gram of mushrooms isn't psychadellic because it doesn't contain enough of the compound to get you very far.
Also, I've never quite seen things like those on mushrooms, but I catch your drift...

Does Cannabis alter a persons perception of reality? I think it can be argued that it does, but not in through the conventional Tryptamine visuals. Then again, why would we expect Cannabinoids to be anything like LSD or Tryptamines?
I find myself more emotional and empathetic the more hash I smoke. In a way this is affecting the way I perceive what is happening around me because I am reacting differently to the stimuli.

But at the end of the day each person can perceive the effect of a drug differently. For instance my father wont ever eat Cannabis again because he says he has tripped out hard on edibles, but I'm in love with my hash tinctures.
 
Psychedelic doesn't mean it makes you hallucinate. Just because it doesn't make you see "purple unicorns galloping down the street shooting midgets with their laser eyes, all the while you stare in wonderment at your vibrating legs as you melt into a tree", as Sega said, doesn't mean it's not a psychedelic.

In fact psychedelics don't neccesarily make you hallucinate at all, it's just that many of them do. I don't generally use marijuana as a psychedelic, but many do, hence the creative uses of cannabis. Many people, for thousands of years, have used cannabis to open their minds. I think that to all of those people it very much is a psychedelic.
 
Sega420 said:
aye but ganj aint a psychedelic.
its a hallucinogen, albeit a mild one, but not a psychedelic in any way.
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That's the stupidest thing you have ever said sega .


Of course weed is a psycadellic !

Just look up the definition to it and youwill clearly see
 
Lol.

But again how could you say that ?!

Google the definition of psycadellic man
 
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