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Nodding out on Kratom. Advice ?

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Last night I did about 2 or 3 grams of UEI kratom @ once. The only way to describe what it feels like is taking 3 or 4 vicodin 1,000s along with 2 mg xanax bar. Totally knocked out relaxed and totally euphoric.

What is the best way to nod out on Kratom? Is there anything that you guys combine it with, like grapefruit juice or Benedryl or do you just take more UEI?
 
WTF are "vicodin 1000's" their is no such thing. Kratom is pretty weak, I have no experience with it so I can't give you much advice.
 
love2party said:
WTF are "vicodin 1000's" their is no such thing. Kratom is pretty weak, I have no experience with it so I can't give you much advice.
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Vicodin 1,000s on the street are the 10 mg hydrocodone/325, 500, 660, or 750 mg acetaminophen.

.................. kratom.... is.... weak.... LoL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, what is the best way to nod off it guys?

plugging it? Grapfruit juice? adding lope? empty stomach? adding benedryl? Come on... as powerful as a measly 2 or 3 grams of uei was to me last night I know some of you guys are nodding like crazy from it... what are your techniques?
 
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Adding diphenhydramine (Benadryl) helps out a lot. Also adding another opiate (please, not "Vicodin 1000's", jesus.) really helps.


Empty stomach also helps.
 
K12 said:
Vicodin 1,000s on the street are the 10 mg hydrocodone/325, 500, 660, or 750 mg acetaminophen.

.................. kratom.... is.... weak.... LoL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, what is the best way to nod off it guys?

plugging it? Grapfruit juice? adding lope? empty stomach? adding benedryl? Come on... as powerful as a measly 2 or 3 grams of uei was to me last night I know some of you guys are nodding like crazy from it... what are your techniques?
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Vicodin 1000s is the stupidest street name I have ever heard. Why not just call
Them Vic 10s or LT10s? Where does the 1000 come from? Yeaa and kratom is pretty weak, but if you can get something out of it more power to
You. Wish I could say the same thing.
 
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Vicodin 1000s is the stupidest street name I have ever heard.
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Serious? Dumber than the 750s? These are the 7.5mg hydrocodone/750 mg acetaminophen tabs... the 500s must be as stupid is as stupid does. lol. gotta love the Gs that come up with the names lol.
 
K12 said:
Serious? Dumber than the 750s? These are the 7.5mg hydrocodone/750 mg acetaminophen tabs... the 500s must be as stupid is as stupid does. lol. gotta love the Gs that come up with the names lol.
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Serious as a heart attack. We only have narco 10/325 or blue watson 540 so we callem narcs or blues. Much more logical than 1000s, 750s, and 500s.
 
k12 i know your good people

and im a big kratom user

but ime nothing makes it last longer or better

ive done it full stomach and had same effect as empty stomach

ive tried gfj and without ---- no difference

i never did benadryl because the itch isnt as bad as normal opiates

and to the person who said kratom was weak

maybe your vendor had some weak shit

but the right kratom can be downright sweet
 
I've been using Kratom for a little while now and I say up your dosage.

If your just making the tea I suggest eating the straight powder. either mixed with water or made into little dough balls and swallowed. I dislike capping it, takes away from the high ime.

I definitely don't think it should be looked at the same way as an opiate. I've heard rumor that there actually are a few alkaloids in the leaf that are "speedier". maybe the leaf is a bit like a speed ball and you may have to find out which country grows kratom that has higher concentration of the euphoric relaxing type alkaloids. (Bali and Indonesia are good bets) Remember that chemically the alkaloids are similar to Ibogaine rather than being similar to any opiate chem structure. So the people nodding out might just be tired while high rather than high to the point of tired.

Disclaimer; I'm no scientist and I have never studied the effects of this plant with any more scientific rigor than just dosing myself a bunch of times. the only time i've felt a similar nod to Heroin was when I was already way tired and lying in bed waitin for sleep. Definitely warm and cozy but it was combined with a really good day and a lot of physical work.

This substances is way different than just an opiate. It definitely has it's own vibe.
Which I really dig. The euphoria can be really strong but there is something else to it. Time slows down and I've been having a lot of deja vu as well as being quite forgetful when I'm on it. Anyone else get this? Or is it just something else going on in my life.\\

Be excellent to eachother :)
 
Kratom is not an opiate/opioid so taking opiate potentiators like grapefruit juice won't do it. It is an analgesic indole so if you like the experience you had, the place to start would be other indoles. However, indoles won't sedate you in the manner of opiates/opioids.

The leaf does contain a constituient opioid, 7-hydroxy that is potent but only ever present in a content of less than .25% overall. While it MAY contribute synergistically it would never cause that effect (unfortunately).
 
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