Nitrous may be illegal soon

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I am seeing a lot of talk about it in the media and I am sure the government is listening. I expect this may disappear soon.
 
i dunno... it's pretty popular at the moment... i think there's some controversary whether or not it's damaging or whether or not you can just take some vitamin b12 and will be fine.

dxm has been around for a while, and that doesn't appear to be going anywhere.. obviously something teens use to get high. (Edit: i actually just remember dxm is illegal in some countries..hmm..)

i'm not saying it's not gonna become illegal, but could also seeing it slip by and stay legal... i see weed as being just as dangerous as nitrous.. i feel like nitrous is pretty short lived. not like people are gonna be driving around on it. if people want to mess themselves up taking it, they can easily do the same with alcohol.

if it didn't power whip cream cans then it'd probably be illegal. people need to shoot whip cream out of cans. i can 100% seeing it needed to be presented a certain way to be legal though, like no more just buying galaxy gas or whatever, so that's gonna ruin the fun for some people.. just selling straight up nitrous in head shops to anybody that's 18, i can see people saying people aren't mature enough to handle that for sure,, all i really got out of nitrous was a small hit, like even a whip cream can worth while tripping is really cool.. kind of lame with out the psychedelics even when using a lot.
 
It's already illegal in the UK and a few people who were selling it in bulk got prison sentences for 'intent to supply'.

Xenon is supposed to be even better but I've noted that while some places in China sell it at a reasonable price, it's 'industrial grade' and you have to wonder what else might be in there.
 
As previously mentioned dxm is also rather popular and people have known of it being abused for years, as well as benzedrex (propylhexedrine). They’d stuck around for years, so while usually the better known things are the faster they get banned this isn’t always the case. It’s definitely hard to say at this point.
 
I seem to recall that nitrous intended for drag racing now has a little sulfer dioxide added to it to 'denature' it. It may be the case that in place of a ban, other products may also end up being denatured.
 
foodcrisis said:
i dunno... it's pretty popular at the moment... i think there's some controversary whether or not it's damaging or whether or not you can just take some vitamin b12 and will be fine.

dxm has been around for a while, and that doesn't appear to be going anywhere.. obviously something teens use to get high. (Edit: i actually just remember dxm is illegal in some countries..hmm..)

i'm not saying it's not gonna become illegal, but could also seeing it slip by and stay legal... i see weed as being just as dangerous as nitrous.. i feel like nitrous is pretty short lived. not like people are gonna be driving around on it. if people want to mess themselves up taking it, they can easily do the same with alcohol.

if it didn't power whip cream cans then it'd probably be illegal. people need to shoot whip cream out of cans. i can 100% seeing it needed to be presented a certain way to be legal though, like no more just buying galaxy gas or whatever, so that's gonna ruin the fun for some people.. just selling straight up nitrous in head shops to anybody that's 18, i can see people saying people aren't mature enough to handle that for sure,, all i really got out of nitrous was a small hit, like even a whip cream can worth while tripping is really cool.. kind of lame with out the psychedelics even when using a lot.
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People do be driving around on it, at least in Sweden

Gang affiliated idiots from muslim countries mostly

Then there are kids huffing themselves into irreversible paralysis

I think there is a strong case to ban nitrous

I find it comical that the "but my whipped cream!" talking point has managed to keep it legal, like how important can whipped cream be

Personally i think all drugs should be legal but nitrous ban is realistic
 
if its legal in australia, then i don't think other countries have to worry about it getting banned. our govt is the biggest pussies when it comes to drugs.

nitrous on its own is such a mediocre drug imo
 
I blame the brands that explicitly market for recreational use. Not only are they more expensive than nitrous chargers intended for culinary, etc use, by marketing it for recreation, they've opened themselves up to a media panic.
 
4DQSAR said:
It's already illegal in the UK and a few people who were selling it in bulk got prison sentences for 'intent to supply'.

Xenon is supposed to be even better but I've noted that while some places in China sell it at a reasonable price, it's 'industrial grade' and you have to wonder what else might be in there.
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So you can no longer buy whipped cream canisters?
 
I’d say nitrous is way more addictive than DXM. They don’t call it hippie crack for nothing.

DXM has a way of scaring the dog shit out of people and it’s simply not as reinforcing.

It’s well known that the faster the onset/ROA used, the more addictive a drug is.

Nitrous can be extremely damaging to the body. I suffered a collapse lung using it and years later, I used it to the point of stabbing knife like pain in my lungs.

I’ve heard of way nastier consequences though from nitrous. Here’s a good example:



As far as making it illegal, this is one of those drugs that I dont see the cartel replacing with its own nastier version; so maybe it should be illegal. I usually tend to be in favor of most hard drugs being legal because they are actually safer when available in a legal “version” examples of drugs and their nastier illicit replacement are given below. But I don’t see this as possible with nitrous so maybe it should be banned.

Weed -> synthetic noids
Oxycodone -> fent/tranq
MDMA -> bath salts
LSD -> Nbome
 
The issue is that in the past few years consumer nitrous has shifted from little 8 gram chargers to large, 1000g plus disposable tanks.

I used to have a 50 charger (8g) a day habit a decade ago (that's around a pound of nitrous oxide gas inhaled every day). The habit was only limited by the fact that it wasn't sold in larger quantities. I'm glad these consumer grade tanks werent available back tanks, because I might have hurt myself.

The advent of large tanks has really upped the risk factor. With 8g cartridges, it was fairly self-limiting due to cost.

For those that think nitrous oxide is a mediocre or middling drug: you haven't used enough of it for extended duration of tanks. Nitrous oxide levels build in the blood, and if one is hooked up to a tank, at some point they will experience an intense and even mind-blowing effect. It's one of the most euphoric drugs when doses in large, constant quantities (and this is coming from a former IV heroin addict). Those who discount it have inhaled it through a balloon -- which is the incorrect way to administered the drugs.

Anyway, these large consumer tanks have put nitrous oxide in the cross hairs of regulators since they increase the number of adverse events.
 
i'm surprised with the people saying they could seeing making nitrous illegal. with what nitrous does to a low dose of shrooms or acid, i don't think it should be illegal at all.. if i want to take one small hit of nitrous to change a trip the way it does, then i should be able to do that.. it's like some what of a preparation for high dose tripping if that's what some one wants to experience..

if you are foolish and abuse drugs, that's your own fault... no reason why i shouldn't be able to experience something that isn't harming me cause some one else can't control themselves and has to abuse.. i personally don't get nitrous with out tripping.. i heard at ween concerts people love nitrous. there are some other niche bands too that have a crowd that does a lot at their shows.. idk. they are probably tripping on other drugs other than the nitrous. i can personally do a hit of nitrous during the peak of trip, and then be all set with the short experience for the rest of the night. i'm the type that totally doesn't understand why you'd use nitrous with out being on a psychedelic... i totally get it can be abused, but that's the person's fault... again, no reason why others shouldn't be able to experience something because others are irresponsible.

i could see limiting the amount people can buy... like i could definitely see a system where everyone just gets all their drugs from the government.. like you have to ease your way into psychedelics. you're only allowed to have like 2 grams per person for a starters dose when you're 18, and then when you're 21, you can step up to like, idk whatever.. just throwing ideas out there... limit each person to a few hits of nitrous on special occasions or something.. if everyone had equal access to drugs like this and it was common place, way less people would abuse.. if everyone had the same thing (if they wanted it) people wouldn't be as greedy... like there are some expections where i think some people should get more drugs, if someone is severally injured or mental ill, i think most people are gonna be like "maybe they should have some expections to their doses."... idk.. having no nitrous available would suck with whatever the governments plan to do.
 
they need to realize that nitrous is a pretty cool recreational drug when used sparingly... not just cancel it... this is the way with all drugs.
 
foodcrisis said:
i'm the type that totally doesn't understand why you'd use nitrous with out being on a psychedelic... i totally get it can be abused, but that's the person's fault... again, no reason why others shouldn't be able to experience something because others are irresponsible.
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It’s really good combined with either opioids or amphetamine. Even just weed. Shit it’s good by itself if you use enough of it. I’ve holed and gone unconscious from using it alone. You have to use a lot of it because like necrogesic said you have to let it build up in the blood to hole on it.

I guess it shouldn’t be banned; I say that just because it’s only fair that if I think other drugs should be legal , it’s hypocritical to say nitrous should be illegal. This is one of the most moreish drugs I’ve done though, it really is hippie crack
 
I've noticed a good few of the suburban streets of Dublin strewn with empty Nitrous bottles. It used to be the silver whippet canisters but now its changed to the likes of 'Galaxy Gas' etc. Seems to be really popular with the younger generation of 16-25 year olds huffing it out in the open on street corners. From what I've witnessed it seems to turn them into spaced out idiots. I witnessed the gradual decline of one of my former dealers nephew, who over the period of about 4-6 months has turned into a shell of his former self. He's lost a tonne of weight (granted he was a heavy chap and had it to lose, but still) and now just sits on the chair all day huffing canister after canister staring into the middle distance.

Those videos online of the oxegyn being cut off to the brain resulting in peoples legs giving out from under them causing them to fall flat on their faces are frightening. No interest at all in ever touching the stuff...bu by all means go ahead, who am I to judge.
 
I understand that people can abuse almost anything but I personally don’t think it should be illegal. Most people I know eventually develop a permanent tolerance or semi permanent tolerance so they stop doing it because it doesn’t do anything anymore and it’s pointless and a waste of money.

I have a permanent tolerance to nitrous sadly. It never works on me anymore. I had fun with it but I didn’t do crazy amounts like some people. & you can develop a permanent tolerance to dissociatives. I’d say average use off and on for 8 years but never daily. It was just a once in a while kind of thing. But I also think I have a permanent tolerance because I used to have teeth issues for most of my life and so I’ve been hooked up to nitrous at the dentist often and even with that top notch medical grade stuff from the dentist I don’t feel it anymore really.


But It was actually the first drug experience i ever had, at 9 years old at the dentist.i remember time kind of slowing down. First experience with anything.it was even before fully trying caffeine.
But didn’t do it for fun until I was 22. I’m in my mid 30s now.
 
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Dextromethorphan and nitrous will never be illegal. DXM has/had a sub culture presence all over the internet years ago and the stuff is still right on the shelves. They may restrict, an over 18 type of thing. People use nitrous to make whip cream for different culinary dishes all the time.

I understand though as it has been said big tanks are easier to get. That may stop. But my wife has made desserts and put whip cream on with a dispenser and the little cartridges are used for that.

I get irritated when I read head shops and corner stores are selling things like tianeptine etc. Anything to make a buck with no thought on consequences.
 
negrogesic said:
The issue is that in the past few years consumer nitrous has shifted from little 8 gram chargers to large, 1000g plus disposable tanks.

I used to have a 50 charger (8g) a day habit a decade ago (that's around a pound of nitrous oxide gas inhaled every day). The habit was only limited by the fact that it wasn't sold in larger quantities. I'm glad these consumer grade tanks werent available back tanks, because I might have hurt myself.

The advent of large tanks has really upped the risk factor. With 8g cartridges, it was fairly self-limiting due to cost.

For those that think nitrous oxide is a mediocre or middling drug: you haven't used enough of it for extended duration of tanks. Nitrous oxide levels build in the blood, and if one is hooked up to a tank, at some point they will experience an intense and even mind-blowing effect. It's one of the most euphoric drugs when doses in large, constant quantities (and this is coming from a former IV heroin addict). Those who discount it have inhaled it through a balloon -- which is the incorrect way to administered the drugs.

Anyway, these large consumer tanks have put nitrous oxide in the cross hairs of regulators since they increase the number of adverse events.
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I quite like nitrous, although I mostly only find it worth doing on other drugs, and I’ve only done the balloon method. Now I really want to try from a proper tank. Gotta make sure someone’s monitoring my oxygen intake though.
 
fairnymph said:
I quite like nitrous, although I mostly only find it worth doing on other drugs, and I’ve only done the balloon method. Now I really want to try from a proper tank. Gotta make sure someone’s monitoring my oxygen intake though.
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It's better to get the little cartridges and the whipped cream dispenser, you can just inhale directly from the dispenser. The air is very cool (can freeze your lungs I believe?) directly out of a tank or cartridge but once it's in the whipped cream dispenser it's safe to inhale from there in my experience.

Just don't over do it like I did... must have went through a couple thousand cartridges by now. It has lost all the magic for me sadly and I got negative effects like numbness and stuff from it.
 
HealingEnergy14 said:
It's better to get the little cartridges and the whipped cream dispenser, you can just inhale directly from the dispenser. The air is very cool (can freeze your lungs I believe?) directly out of a tank or cartridge but once it's in the whipped cream dispenser it's safe to inhale from there in my experience.

Just don't over do it like I did... must have went through a couple thousand cartridges by now. It has lost all the magic for me sadly and I got negative effects like numbness and stuff from it.
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If it’s a cream dispenser full of nitrous, but no cream you can inhale it and be OK but balloons are recommended. the only time I’ve done the medical grade that was not at the dentist was a concerts and music festivals, the tall and skinny 4-5 foot tanks.
We used balloons that get very big because with those real medical grade tanks it’s very dangerous to try to inhale off of a huge medical tank like that you need balloons.the medical grade tanks like that will be very very cold.
So yeah, never try to use one of those tall skinny medical grade tanks without balloons.
 
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