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Benzos Nimetazepam (Erimin)

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pally pete

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anyone have any experience or advice with regards to this benzo please?

its sold as Erimin 5mg tabs mainly in asia and is quite rare elsewhere,would like some info and/or personal experiences please if possible.

ive already checked wiki.

thanks:)

also anyone know much about tetrazepam?

kind regards
 
Never tried this benzo, but it is at the very top of my "want to do" list.
I think i remember 1 person on this forum who has had experience with it -- someone from europe If i recall correctly.

i've heard it often be compared to temazepam.
 
do You guys find these benzos on typical rc /other websites or are You strictly just in an area where benzos like that are available? no sources asked or needed - would just like to know what it is. :)
 
It's Schedule IV in the U.S., like most benzos. At least according to Wikipedia it is also Schedule III on the U.N. Convention on Psychotropic Substances...so I highly doubt it is an RC benzo.
 
^ yes, nimetazepam is a Schedule III under the United Nations Convention on Psychotropic Substances. Only 3 benzos are Schedule III under the U.N. Convention on Psychotropic Substances and they are nimetazepam, flunitrazepam, and temazepam.

all other benzos are Schedule IV.

such a classification in the United Nations treaty for psychotropic substances means that these 3 benzos have an established record of abuse, addiction, and deaths attributed to them on a more international level.
so nimetazepam has got to be a hell of a benzo, if it's classed like that alongside fllunitrazepam and temazepam.
 
i think its just because its also a fast acting hypnotic which translates to 'date rape drug' for most people. so its 'dangerous' by default, even if its not even available in the u.s. unless you smuggle it from asia.

OT: does rohypnol, for example, even dissolve in an alcoholic and/or non-alcoholic drink for someone to just drop some tabs into another persons drink secretly and is it really not a foul tasting benzo like most if not all the others?
i imagine the drink must taste quite different after dissolving rohypnol tabs in it.
 
tyler5 said:
i think its just because its also a fast acting hypnotic which translates to 'date rape drug' for most people. so its 'dangerous' by default, even if its not even available in the u.s. unless you smuggle it from asia.

OT: does rohypnol, for example, even dissolve in an alcoholic and/or non-alcoholic drink for someone to just drop some tabs into another persons drink secretly and is it really not a foul tasting benzo like most if not all the others?
i imagine the drink must taste quite different after dissolving rohypnol tabs in it.
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nimetazepam doesn't have any reputation as a date rape drug -- although i'm sure it can be used for such purposes just like almost any other hypnotic benzo could.
like temazepam, it's notoriety is solely based on the fact that it is widely abused as a euphoric drug or as a hypnotic to counteract the effects of amphetamines.

flunitrazepam is the one with the "date rape drug" reputation, although it is an undeserved one.
most benzos are soluble in alcohol, and a relatively recent study showed that midazolam, temazepam, and clonazepam were more frequently detected as "date rape drugs" than all other benzos. I will look for the study and post it.

fast acting hypnotic benzos such as triazolam, midazolam, temazepam, nitrazepam, estazolam, nimetazepam, flunitrazepam, and lormetazepam can all be very effective "date rape drugs".
I'd say even diazepam, alprazolam, and lorazepam can be used for such purposes without problem.
 
to the OP: i wasnt referring to that intention at all, it was offtopic questions/discussion, sorry :)

kokaino: i wasnt trying to say nimetazepam has a reputation as a date rape drug.
my thoughts were that since it is very similar in action and durance to the 'notorious' date rape drug(s), it was automatically also classified as such even though there might have never even been any actual rape cases concerning this particular benzo.
i think who ever are in charge of scheduling meds/drugs knows full well that most benzos are abused, either to achieve some level of euphoria, to simply eliminate anxiety or to come down from amphetamines.

so there must be a half-good reason why these three specific benzos are grouped a level higher than any of the others. i dont think its just the 'fast-acting hypnotic' factor because there are other benzos which fit the description and are far easier to obtain than nimetazepam and also flunitrazepam. even temazepam is not that easy to find in some places. considering how rare nimetazepam is in U.S. (i dont think its ever been available) there are probably very few reports of abuse of this specific benzo.

i would think ambien/midazolam/triazolam etc. mixed with alcohol would also result in unconsciousness.
ambien is also available most everywhere unlike the three which are Sch.III.

if one were to drop 4 1mg rohypnol tabs into 400ml (13.5 floz) of plain tap water, approx. how fast would they dissolve on their own, without any stirring?
and wouldnt the taste be extremely noticeable?

if this is too offtopic, i apologize and will probably start a new thread for 'how true is the claim that benzos dissolve quickly and are more or less tasteless in drinks' :)
 
tyler5 said:
to the OP: i wasnt referring to that intention at all, it was offtopic questions/discussion, sorry :)

kokaino: i wasnt trying to say nimetazepam has a reputation as a date rape drug.
my thoughts were that since it is very similar in action and durance to the 'notorious' date rape drug(s), it was automatically also classified as such even though there might have never even been any actual rape cases concerning this particular benzo.
i think who ever are in charge of scheduling meds/drugs knows full well that most benzos are abused, either to achieve some level of euphoria, to simply eliminate anxiety or to come down from amphetamines.

so there must be a half-good reason why these three specific benzos are grouped a level higher than any of the others. i dont think its just the 'fast-acting hypnotic' factor because there are other benzos which fit the description and are far easier to obtain than nimetazepam and also flunitrazepam. even temazepam is not that easy to find in some places. considering how rare nimetazepam is in U.S. (i dont think its ever been available) there are probably very few reports of abuse of this specific benzo.

i would think ambien/midazolam/triazolam etc. mixed with alcohol would also result in unconsciousness.
ambien is also available most everywhere unlike the three which are Sch.III.

if one were to drop 4 1mg rohypnol tabs into 400ml (13.5 floz) of plain tap water, approx. how fast would they dissolve on their own, without any stirring?
and wouldnt the taste be extremely noticeable?

if this is too offtopic, i apologize and will probably start a new thread for 'how true is the claim that benzos dissolve quickly and are more or less tasteless in drinks' :)
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well there is a reason why those 3 benzos are schedule 3 under the UN convention on psychotropic substances:

1. Nimetazepam is widely abused throughout Southeast Asia. The levels of its abuse are epidemic, or at least they were at a certain point.
2. Temazepam is one of the most widely abused benzos in the world. Temazepam abuse reached epidemic proportions in Europe (especially the UK) and Australia. Many deaths have been attributed to this benzo as a result of overdose or through complications with IV use. This benzo continues to be a major problem throughout Europe and Australia. In Asia, temazepam is only behind nimetazepam in terms of levels of abuse.
3. Flunitrazepam was involved in "date rape" back in the late 90's and its levels of abuse, though not as bad as temazepam or nimetazepam, is still very high. I think Flunitrazepam's "date rape drug" reputation is what landed it in Schedule 3 of the UN treaty.

Most other benzos have more localized, but high levels of abuse. Examples include alprazolam and clonazepam. Abuse is common, but deaths, IV use, or major smuggling of these drugs through international borders is very very rare. Temazepam and nimetazepam are routinely smuggled in massive quantities (temazepam from eastern europe or the netherlands which goes to the UK and other western european nations and nimetazepam's smuggling from Japan into surrounding asian nations).

Those are the differences.
 
There is more to it, obviously...but that is basically the idea.
Temazepam/Nimetazepam/Flunitrazepam abuse is far-reaching, involving major smuggling (temazepam/nimetazepam), deaths (temazepam), and high levels of abuse in many countries.

The rest (ie. alprazolam, lorazepam, clonazepam) have high levels of abuse, but very localized and not involving international smuggling or manufacture, etc.


I would say that diazepam is on a level similar to temazepam, nimetazepam, and flunitrazepam -- but diazepam is what is called an "essential drug" - a core medicine in the World Health Organization's "Essential Drugs List," which is a list of minimum medical needs for a basic health care system.
So regulating it in such a way as the other 3 would hamper the use of the drug. It is a valuable drug used for many many purposes and it is the cheapest.
 
I have no personal experience with this benzo only that nimetazepam is Rxed in Japan and its high has been lickened to MDMA, Probably more euphoric than most, reduces inhibitions in a very socially regid culture, and has fast onset. What I have heard anecdotally is that their is something specially about this one. On my to do list too. I'm Rx'd 30 mg Temazepam HS and need 60 sometimes to go to sleep but its diappointing in terms of euphoria- good sleeping pill though with less morning after sedation and more effective than ambien and the silly z-drugs. They should Rx moderate amounts of halcion or xyrem for insomniacs like me that wake up at 2 and can't fall asleep. Xanax and valium (I'm scripted 2 mg tid prn can be euphoric, especially when anxious,) and I feel valium is for some reason under rated. Klonopin is good too especially when combined with full agonists opiates, not as much placent nodding euphoria for me with suboxone.

But yea, Erim-5 is similar chemical to nitrazepam I think and is something specially- like to here more personal experience, anecdotal info myself.
 
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exactly what i was thinking....MDMA high and a BENZO high similar...... surely not!?

any experiences please or tetrazepam.

also i know its totally your forum and your free to talk and debate as you please,although i would appreciate less 'date rape drug' discussion on this thread,thanks.
 
Nimetazepam has a reputation for being particularly subject to abuse (known as 'Happy 5', sold as an Ecstasy replacement without a hangover),
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There words not mine. Like I said, never have tried it, thats why I'm asking.

From wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimetazepam

I think it's sold as an exctacy substitute because A it cause some de gree of euphoria and B it breaks down inhibitions and allows people to iteract more freely. Like I said, I've never tried it and have been curious about its effects. How does it compare to other benzos. In the same article, in terms of euphoria, rohypnol> valium> temazepam> nimetazepam. In my experience, there is alot of individual variability in degree of euphoria. I get very little from even 60 mg of temazepam, but some euphoria from xanax, usually not much. Valium does give me significant euphoria as does halcion. Its the non bezo sedatives like seconal and placidyl that i really get euphoria from or GHB.

As far as date rape drugs, alcohol is easily the culprit in 99.9 % of the cases. "Date rape drug" is a term the DEA has invented to get more funding for their efforts and turn there job into a crusade against dape as one more service they do for society. The truth is its the rapist, not the drug thats the problem.
 
It is like temazapam only longer lasting. Basically causes mild euphoria, a sense of everything is ok and relaxation. Obviously makes you very sleepy as well.
 
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