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nicotine extraction method......worth it

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i'm planing on extracting nicotine from tobacco.....first i must know if im right before i extract cancer or something.....

im planing on using the qwiso method......usually used to make hash.....most of you may know about the qwiso method of hash making hopefully since this is the advanced drug thread...... any way what it comes down to is can nicotine be extracted this way......to answer that you would have to be able to answer another question i cant .....is nicotine a polar compound?......once extracted i plan on smoking it along with cannabis .....would pure nicotine be harmful?

i'll gladly explain the qwiso method if yall dont know what im talking about
 
Maybe you should explain the qwiso method. Slang isn't accepted much. Im geussing from the name its some kind of QWIk ISOpropyl exctration or something.

The idea seems reasonable enough. Pure nicotine is of course harmful. There's enough nicotine in a 25er of cigarettes to kill a baby.

If you were going to extract pure nicotine, I'd probably tell you not to bother, as it seems that people wont self administer nicotine by itself [1]. But this will be all the alkaloids and terpenes etc.

Therein comes to problem, the tobacco concentrate you're going to make will probably be nasty stuff, and you better be careful in seeing that, you know, 50 cigarettes makes X amount of tobacco goop, hence smkoing 1/50th of the goop is going to be like smoking one cigarette... further more, that's likely going to be a small bit of goop, and you could probably smoke it in one hit.. so you probably only want a quater of that 1/50th, which is going to be hard to measure... so be careful.
 
Remember that Nicotine is a fatal poison. And I'm not talking about cancer. Also remember that it is absorbed through skin. Good luck with the vomiting and stuff.
 
your trying to make poison...
(i cant imagine any other use for it)
 
Nicotine is highly toxic when extracted as it's easily absorbed through the skin and by inhalation (I think the LD50 for humans is something around the 60mg range) and unless you've got a setup that's suitable for handling things like oprganophosphate (nerve gas) synthesis, you're advised to stay well away from it.

Cancer will be the least of your worries if you've got a ml of pure nicotine - dead in 20 mins as opposed to 20 years.


PS - it's used as an insecticide in dilute soln, but even then it requires specialist handling
 
Just compare it to a cup or coffee/tea or a bar of chocolate etc. Most people will enjoy their consumption but only in the form of the product, not the raw constituents.
 
Tubgirl, im missing something here. explain what that picture you posted has to do with this thread discussion.
 
The substance should freebase readily, but as the others have said it's nasty, nasty shit, good only for insecticide. People have been killed trying to smuggle tobacco leaves under their clothes against their skin. In the same vein, I've actually heard that there's enough pure nicotine in a *single* cigarette to kill an adult if extracted and ingested; smoking delivers a tiny fraction of the total amount.
 
One of my dad friends has a small bottle of 99% nicotine black liquid goo brought in -65 from a store in sweden (you needed licens even back then but it was a favor cause the store owner was a friend of his), a real dusty store mostly consistant of crap he said (hes an insect explorator, or what the fuck its called).

Back then he used it for killing insects whitout doing "body harm" just put the insect in a small bottle and put a toothpick dipped in the nicotine goo and that insect was instantly killed, just put to sleep...

Anyhow he opned the little bottle about 1 year ago to show me and FUCK the smell hit my face 1 feet away, i was so dizzy, like when you take a REAL deep breath on amyl nitrate (popper), so its not a chem to fuck around with...

He also has a small bottle of cyanide crystals for the same purpose that was sold under the counter to him... but he never wanted to show me that, came from the old USSR he said...

Quite a story huh..
 
blab said:
just add tobacco in with your bud and smoke it dude.
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grossest experience of my life. alot better than death though.
 
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remember the LD50 for nicotine is less than 1mg/kg, and if you want to risk ingesting pure nicotine to get high then i recommend you try arecoline instead, since its very similar to nicotine (its an agonist at the nicotinic acetylcholine receptors), but gives you a more noticable buzz.

I expect it's also easier to extract than nicotine (its from the betel nut) since the betel nut is left in the mouth with some calcium hydroxide, and the saliva (+ calcium hydroxide - which is probably for changing the pH of the saliva) extracts the arecoline from the nut, to be passed into the body subcutaneously
 
i used the ***** thod with n-h in place of the i** via 7 empited cigarrets in a jar with enough h****e to float freely, i let it set undisturbed 1 hour, as i evaporated the h****e came a smell grotesque enough to make you shit yourself, i'm left with a gooy questionable substance that i needed surgical mask to obtain off the pyrex dish....i tried killing a rat with it and it died with about a finernail sized drop vaporized inside the air tight container the rat was it.....this is diffinately a deadly substance that i have disspossed of and will never tamper with again......i did infact ingest before disspossing and did vomit......which is why i made it unclear on how to make this substance

if not had been for you guys i'd probably be dead from ingesting this at OD amounts
 
I did this years ago, but before the extract was concentrated I made the dipicrate salt which was crystalline and much easier (safer) to handle. The simple procedure is outlined in Organic Laboratory Techniques by Pavia Lampman and Kriz - 2nd Ed, 1982
 
back in the KGB days a cheap as and easy method for disposing of someone was to inject them casually with a couple mls of an extract of an aqueous solution of a couple-few cigarettes (picture some used cigs extinguished in a styrofoam cup w/some beer and left in the sun).
 
Belisarius said:
The substance should freebase readily...
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It sure does:


"WHEELER: Nightmare of crack nicotine
Source: Washington Times, 2002-08-29
Author: Jack Wheeler

Intro:
A trivially simple procedure that anyone with a high school chemistry course can perform, it is the same process as making free-base cocaine from cocaine hydrochloride powder.

And just as crack or free-base cocaine is far more addictive and lethal than cocaine hydrochloride powder, so crack or free-base nicotine would be frighteningly more addictive and lethal than tobacco. . .

Three drums of nicotine sulfate extract would yield one drum, or 200 kilos, of crack nicotine. This could be manufactured at an average cost (ingredients, equipment, Third World labor) of less than $500. The tax-avoidance value ($75,000 a kilo) is 30,000 times that: $15 million for one drum of crack nicotine. That is a 3 million percent profit.

Further, one eyedropper-full of uncut crack nicotine would have a nicotine content of four cartons of cigarettes, one kilo poured in a 20 oz. soda-pop bottle would equal 5,000 cartons or 50,000 packs: a value-per-volume increase of 1,000 times for cigarette smugglers. A typical fix of cut crack nicotine (diluted 20-to-1, or 2 milligrams) would be 1 percent of a crack cocaine fix (200 milligrams) by weight making it 100 times easier, in terms of size, to smuggle than cocaine...(continued in full text article)
 
And just as crack or free-base cocaine is far more addictive and lethal than cocaine hydrochloride powder, so crack or free-base nicotine would be frighteningly more addictive and lethal than tobacco. . .
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That's a stupid comparison; the analogy should be between coca-cocaine HCl, and tobacco-nicotine HCl.

Anyway, I've been told they produce tobacco in such that way that it's around pH 5.5 and the nicotine is largely freebase.
 
Considering how lethal isolated nicotine is it does serve to spark off ideas though.

RTI-4614-4 has a potency about the same as carfentanil and lasts for ~90 min.

It is conceivable that these compounds could be smoked (ala 'chasing the dragon'). Given the 'hotspots' that occur in the cutting of powdered fentanyl which is ca. 100x morphine, cutting of a powder that is 100 x yet more potent is like toying with idea of a mission to mars in terms of the level of risk.

Dragons blood incense might be a possibility. This post is more for the purpose of academic conjecture however than pragmatic application.

I dont really see the point in extracting nicotine from tobacco though dilution of an ashtray of nubs with a glass of water would definately yield a toxic cocktail. I have heard stories that if you drink the bong water it will make you trip. Wanna try?
 
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