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[koneko]

My trip report from our first 6-apb experience last night.

6-APB: First Time - MDMA nearly-lite followed by bruxism n' vomitfests

 

[deano88]

Am I the only one whos bored of this 6-apb craze already? Tried it once and i've completely lost interest in it. Tenner a pill is a piss take! I at least expect a good e like buz for that but it will never compare

 

[koneko]

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Don't think it's so much a craze as a shilling promo-festival. Very few of the reports I've read I've had confidence in... fresh sign up newbs over in pD have no creditability

Price is no issue for me, we're older have a good jobs etc... but what I'm interested in is finding a decent "couple drug" and 6-apb did have elements of that but it wasn't good enough. Did you read my trip report?

I don't think this RC is mass market material, it will eventually fall from "craze status" and be used discreetly by interested parties - it is no substitute for mdma however

6-apb is a RC in it's own right - with still a lot of work needed on it i feel.

 

[RLP]

Nice report kate. Interesting that the dosage curve was apparently so steep.

Think anyone wishing to try 6-APB needs to exercise extreme caution. Aside from the fact the pellets are a rip off 'justified' purely on the hype, there is no guarantee that the pellets actually are 6-APB and even if they were, the reports are so varied that it seems there is no safe way to approach taking the drug.

If anyone is having second thoughts, I'd wait until a powder is released. Much easier to control your intake.

 

[koneko]

Cheers we tried in the name of science and personal interest and what I wrote was a true representation of what happened after one then 2 pellets.

If anyone is having second thoughts, I'd wait until a powder is released. Much easier to control your intake.

Totally agree with you - lessen your risk and wait it out out a bit longer for the proper 6-apb powder.

It scares me a bit that the young mephedrone brigade may be led into thinking this is the new substitute. No way it is

Be cautious

 

[deano88]

Can you send me a link to your trip report kate? Yeah i'm personaly gonna wait til the powder form comes out so I know for sure what dose i'm having. And btw I do have decent paid job and can afford it but that doesnt stop me from thinking 6-apb is a rip off. I'm not one of those 'meph kids' which is obviously what you think in fact when the meph craze was going about I hardly ever had it much only on special occasions.

Rich or poor 6-apb is a rip off end of. The best rc out there is amt nothing can compare and for the money you cant go wrong

 

[Esoterik]

It scares me a bit that the young mephedrone brigade may be led into thinking this is the new substitute. No way it is

It's funny, when I tried it i was sure this could replace meph for some people. I did it in a club environment and found it extremely stimulating and an excellent dance drug. The main difference was that it had no feindish properties and despite having more doses on me, the thought of redosing didn't even cross my mind.

 

[skyHiGuy]

It scares me a bit that the young mephedrone brigade may be led into thinking this is the new substitute. No way it is

Be cautious

Agree with you kate. My one cap gave me a full blown psycodelic trip that lasted hours (see my report at start of latest 6-APB thread) and with the rocky come-up and come-down I'm not going clubbing on it though will do it again when the time is right. I would use it like i use mushrooms, for insight and introspection.

 

[Sadie]

It scares me a bit that the young mephedrone brigade may be led into thinking this is the new substitute. No way it is

Be cautious

I personally think that the Meph explosion was down to lack of proper MDMA, low price and easy quick access.

ATM I think that 6-APB is still a bit too pricy for it to catch on the same way Meph did. I also think that if it were to become popular, if the price remains the same folk wont be doing stupid amounts of it like they were with meph. That being said, if it does catch on and the price drops it will definately go the way Meph did. Just my theory.

 

[deano88]

I personally think that the Meph explosion was down to lack of proper MDMA, low price and easy quick access.

ATM I think that 6-APB is still a bit too pricy for it to catch on the same way Meph did. I also think that if it were to become popular, if the price remains the same folk wont be doing stupid amounts of it like they were with meph. That being said, if it does catch on and the price drops it will definately go the way Meph did. Just my theory.

when a tried a pellet the first 2 hours were great felt pretty mashed but it gets kinds boring after that kinds feels like that shit liquid esctasy stuff you used to get in head shops (after the first two hours that is).

tbh i hate meph always end up drinking way too much alchohol on it and end up doing something i regret.

my drug(s) of choice has got to be mdma and amt. amt being the only RC thats worth the money

 

[Sadie]

when a tried a pellet the first 2 hours were great felt pretty mashed but it gets kinds boring after that kinds feels like that shit liquid esctasy stuff you used to get in head shops (after the first two hours that is).

tbh i hate meph always end up drinking way too much alchohol on it and end up doing something i regret.

my drug(s) of choice has got to be mdma and amt. amt being the only RC thats worth the money

I think MDMA rates highly on most peoples lists. I dont think I've ever known a person who didnt care for it at all. Whats not to love though?

There are just too many conflicting reports out there at the moment though. I honestly dont believe that is all down to each person is different. I'm thinking that not everything being sold as 6-apb is actually 6-apb. I found Kate's report to be well written and extrememly educational. Personally I think its the best report I've ever read on any chemical.

Kate - 6APB report

Her report, imo, gives a bit of strength to my theory. She's very experienced. She had two very different reactions. I've heard a number of reports of people purchasing more than one pill from in the same order. Sometimes getting two different looking pills and having two very different experiences off them. Pills that vary that much and are meant to be the same chemical compound spells bullshit to me. Not only does it piss me off that some people could be falsely sold something else under the guise of 6-APB but it would also a very dangerous and wreckless thing to do. I think most people would be wise holding off on this until reports are a bit more unanimous. Once we can be sure what its meant to feel like and that purchases from different vendors to not differ too much with product I just dont feel its worth it. From a monitary perspective and a harm reduction perspective.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

 

[knock]

@Sadie

I don't know, look at AMT, large range of effects (stimulant, soporific, psychedelic, empathogenic, euphoriant) all from one dose.

 

[th3 s1aught3r]

Its quite obvious that the pills are not worth buying. Ten quid a pop for a pill that may or may not get you mashed. Even if it does, there are so many effects, many bad, that people have reported
The vendors thought that by making pills they could make even more money than if they sold a powder. The quality of each pill seems to be different, badly made on the cheap clearly
These vendors are no different from the guys cutting and selling coke IMO

 

[Sadie]

@Sadie

I don't know, look at AMT, large range of effects (stimulant, soporific, psychedelic, empathogenic, euphoriant) all from one dose.

I've never had AMT before so I couldnt possibly comment. Would a person go through the effects you've listed off of one pill through the course of the night. Or, are those the possible effects and they vary not only from person to person but from sesh to sesh?

These vendors are no different from the guys cutting and selling coke IMO

I could not agree more. I think a few vendors lost trust from some of their more loyal customers.

 

[knock]

I've never had AMT before so I couldnt possibly comment. Would a person go through the effects you've listed off of one pill through the course of the night. Or, are those the possible effects and they vary not only from person to person but from sesh to sesh?

One dose - one night - one person - me.

Actually it wasn't one night but an afternoon and a night, it lasts 12+ hours from ingestion.

I think there is a rough pattern, i.e. mushroom-like comeup (but much slower), mushroom-like plateau but with much more euphoria and sleepiness but fewer visuals, then gentle MDMA-esque waves as it slowly tails off but with more of a stimulant push towards the end. Lots of fun. But then some people are very sick for the duration, I had none of that, just a headache which was fixed by ibuprofen. Some people have full-blown acid-like visuals, some people don't have any visuals, just the euphoria, stimulation and trippy head-space.

So some drugs definitely give unpredictable effects, it doesn't have to be dodgy batches.

 

[abrad84]

Could I ask anyone with experience reports to submit them to Erowid and send me the ref#? I can get them put up very quickly. Thanks!

 

[Sadie]

I think there is a rough pattern, i.e. mushroom-like comeup (but much slower), mushroom-like plateau but with much more euphoria and sleepiness but fewer visuals, then gentle MDMA-esque waves as it slowly tails off but with more of a stimulant push towards the end. Lots of fun. But then some people are very sick for the duration, I had none of that, just a headache which was fixed by ibuprofen. Some people have full-blown acid-like visuals, some people don't have any visuals, just the euphoria, stimulation and trippy head-space.

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Sounds really amazing. Sadly, I am one of those people who is very easily sick.

 

[Suchthefool]

I've heard of NRG - 7 (hahaha to the tradename still going) and it says it's apparently 6-APBD "1-(2,3-dihydro-1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine". Anyone know more about this? Or even tried it?!

 

[Frogster]

One dose - one night - one person - me.

Actually it wasn't one night but an afternoon and a night, it lasts 12+ hours from ingestion.

I think there is a rough pattern, i.e. mushroom-like comeup (but much slower), mushroom-like plateau but with much more euphoria and sleepiness but fewer visuals, then gentle MDMA-esque waves as it slowly tails off but with more of a stimulant push towards the end. Lots of fun. But then some people are very sick for the duration, I had none of that, just a headache which was fixed by ibuprofen. Some people have full-blown acid-like visuals, some people don't have any visuals, just the euphoria, stimulation and trippy head-space.

So some drugs definitely give unpredictable effects, it doesn't have to be dodgy batches.

I had my first go with AMT yesterdey with the grey HCL. As far as i can tell, i really agree with yor description of AMT compared to MDMA. MDMA gives amphetamine-like stimulation as undertone with the typical MDesque emphaty on top of it. AMT has mushroom-like stimulation as untertone but a similar MDesque overtone on top.

effect/feeling wise:

MDMA = Amphetamine + MDxx
AMT = Mushroom + MDxx

Anyway, i found its really goood material. :D

 

[koneko]

I've heard of NRG - 7 (hahaha to the tradename still going) and it says it's apparently 6-APBD "1-(2,3-dihydro-1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine". Anyone know more about this? Or even tried it?!

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