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Neurontin (Gabapentin) - First Time - Mild, Ecstacy-like high, but with no "edge"

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Neurontin (Gabapentin) - First Time - Mild, Ecstacy-like high, but with no "edge"

Drug description and dosage:
Five 300 mg capsules: (Size B capsules with yellow opaque body and cap), taken orally, in my case, with a very heavy breakfast., followed by seven more 300mg capsules over 3 1/2 hours, for a total dosage of 3600mg. Basic info on Neurontin can be found at http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/gabapent.htm .

Background information:
I am in my 40s with about 30 years drug experience under my belt, including MDMA (I used to sell it before it was "scheduled" in the US) and GHB (I mention it because of its MDMA-like and Neurontin-like high), and almost everything else (heavy emphasis on psychedelics). My general health is excellent and I am in very good physical condition. The only meds I am taking are Buspirone and citalopram for GAD, a condition I have had chronically off and on since childhood, unfortunately.
My state of mind was one of relaxed amusement at the time of the experience, and the purpose of the experience was to see if there was recreational, social-enhancement, relaxational, and/or euphoric potential for Neurontin based on the reports of a good friend (who provided me with the dose).
The experience took place on 18 June 2003, in San Francisco.

The experience:
I spent most of the time with a very good, very drug savvy friend, who provided me with the dose and took the Neurontin with me. My friend and I began at a breakfast place in the Haight Ashbury, and then on to most of the afternoon in Golden Gate Park, then to my friend’s apartment. From there a walk home and then out later to a bar with friends.
It took about an hour for the first dose of 1500mg to kick in, and it felt more like a subtle, but definitely noticeable, mood shift. I was expecting a rush, but that did not happen. At about 1 1/2 hour we did another 1500mg by 2 hours we were feeling the full effect. Did a couple "boosters" over the next 2 hours and I felt the effects until about 10:30 in the evening about 10-11 hours total.

Our interaction consisted mainly of my friend becoming very chatty, which is fine because she is very interesting and I was happy to let her do most of the talking. We talked for hours mostly about social/political and media-related observations, and thoughts and feelings about art and pleasure, and frank, insightful observations about ourselves and people we know. Interactions with other people we encountered were Ecstacy-like in that they were warmer and more open than usual and with a feeling of ease around the limits of mine and other’s needs attached to any interaction, as well as feeling like there was an easy and appropriate way through every interaction.

The effects of the drug were very mildly sedating and, like Ecstacy, somewhat sensuous on a body level. I felt most of the anxiety held in my body and any body judgement issues fall away. I was easier to "just Be" on a body level. I often feel inclined to walk when in this state, and this time was no different. It also felt very good to lay on a blanket in the park with my friend. I got a bit of the "rubber legs" feeling that has been reported as a side effect of Neurontin, but not the stagger effect that has also been reported. Colors seemed a little deeper and all the senses a bit magnified in a pleasurable way. Unlike Ecstacy or even GHB, there was no "edge" - no jaw clenching, no eyeball twitching, or anything like that; in fact, nothing speedy or edgy or buzzy in any way. Neurontin was amazing in that respect, actually. The come-down was the easiest I’ve ever experienced on any substance - more like a subtle, gentle mood shift than anything else. Unlike Ecstacy, on Neurontin you can become hungry and eat and become sleepy and nap.

Neurontin put me in a very easy, open mood a very good mood. Like Ecstacy, kind of a warm neutrality, where all judgements seemed "appropriate" and issue-free. My insights while on it revolved around the utopian desire for humanity to design life as a celebration from birth to death, where work is hyper-efficient and minimized, and leisure and pleasure is strived for and maximized.

Conclusions:
Neurontin is nice stuff and I intend to do it again. It’s a lot like a single dose of E without the rush, the edge, or the crash. I have never experienced such an easy on and easy off on any drug before. The occasional, recreational use of the drug is probably a lot different than the prescribed therapeutic experience, and I wonder if it is probably wise to not do it too often as the recreational benefits might decrease. Apparently the recreational dose is fairly high at about 3000+ mg. Still it lasts longer than E and is much cheaper at about $14 a dose. Probably not a good drug for dancing all night, but a very nice daytime high.
 
Excellent!
Very interesting information.

Welcome to Bluelight. :)
 
Splatt - Thanks for the welcoming reply.

PassMeTheVicks,

Neurontin is an anti-convulsant prescribed for epilepsy. However, its off-label uses are many and it is one of Pfizer's biggest sellers.
Among its major off-label uses are for neuropathic pain/chronic pain and as an add-on therapy for bipolar disorder, depression, and anxiety.

I read this info on Erowid before taking it.

I did not get any sort of zombie effect described in the Erowid report and neither has any of my friends who have taken it - not to say that will not happen though.
My friends and I all experienced the social enhancement described on Erowid, though I felt the social enhancement was more E-like than G-like. I am looking forward to trying it again, the next time with less food in my stomach to see if the effects are similar or more pronounced.
 
Good report.

I like neurontin. it puts me in a good mood (1600mg) and almost has a stimulating effect. I have been taking it for like 8 months for GAD.
 
Neurontin and Cocaine

Discovered that a high dose of neurontin greatly reduces any antisocial aspects of cocaine (snorted 1/2 gram over 10 hours) as well as reduces the cravings for cocaine (the "moresies") while doing it. By antisocial I mean the self-involvement and hyperfocus on doing more that goes along with cocaine.
Not only that, I was able to get to sleep 1/2 hour after doing my last line, and was asleep in 20 minutes, and woke up feeling rather refreshed.
Here is how I dosed:
9AM - 2000 mg neurontin
10:30AM - 2000 mg neurontin
1:30PM-11:00PM - 1/2 gram cocaine
8:00PM - 400 mg neurontin
11:00PM - 400 mg neurontin

Usually I would have gone through 1/2 gram of cocaine in half the time.
The neurontin cut the cravings allowing me to enjoy the cocaine more for a longer period of time.

I have read that high dosages of neurontin are sometimes required to have therapeutic affect, and that a lab mouse survived a dose of over 8000 mg. It appears it is difficult to overdose on neurontin and that it is eliminated rather quickly by the body.
If anyone has conflicting info or experiences, please share.

Cheers.
 
I played around with some neurontin my mother had, taking minimal doses (1200mg at maximum) I felt kinda depersonalized and mellow, but I got a wierd hangover the day after that became irritating. It wasn't withdrawal, but my mind felt a bit scrambled, unlike how I had read it to be.
 
interesting...

in just the other room i have a family member who takes this daily for a theraputic reasoning...she has tons of it lol and silly me never knew it could be so recreational.

*goes steals some from the bottle*

:D
 
thanks for this report... I have a perscription for it and have never taken it... I will now :)
 
if you say neurontin is like E, than I am glad i never wasted my tiem with E!

All neurontin does for me is disrupt my thought process and thinking ability. Not to mention swelling and water retention.
 
Let me add that the pleasant GHB-like or mild E-like effects of neurontin seem to require some time between doses.
I did neurontin two days in a row recently and the second day did not feel like the first - I did not feel much at all, other than maybe a little sedated.
Spacing two or three days apart I got the same original effect - a very good mood, social ease and enhancement, etc.

I don't think a prescribed therapeutic dose or even recreational dose taken over time without allowing time between doses would have the same effect as an occasional recretional dose.
 
I just got some of this yesterday. I took just 3 400mg capsules, well I took one, and after a while, didnt feel much, so i took the other two. After a while, still only a little buzz. I thought it wasn't high enough of a dose. But later on, just hanging out with a friend and talking, whoa, i realised how much it hit me, it came up slow...but when it did, hell yeah I was feeling good. It wasn't as good as G, or E, but yeah, I understand how my "mood" was more E-like, I was more sociable, and more uninhibited while talking about things to my friend, more of an "MDMA-like" inhibition rather than alcohol/G. Very comfortable buzz.

I didnt get any bad effects on my thought processes, at least I don't think so. It lasted a long ass time too, and when my friend left, I was extra motivated to get some crap done, and the buzz lasted until I went to sleep (many hours). I think i'm going to order more of this stuff.... I only took 1200mg, maybe I should try more next time? If i get too sleepy, add a stimulant of some sort? %)

--- Oh yes, I saw someone mentioned water retention... I got the opposite.. I got that..um...G-penis (if you males have used G you know what that means), and I had to go to the bathroom very often! Like alcohol or G, or caffeine, but with that G-size-penis lol.
 
Yesterday I did the neurontin/cocaine combo again and I have to say I highly recommend it.
I think the best way to do it is to let the neurontin kick in for a couple hours, then start the coke.
It is amazing to feel like you relate well to people, eat, and even sleep when doing cocaine. Neurontin really takes away most of the bad side of blow without being sedating, plus it lends its own effects to the experience.
I might always use neurontin if I am going to do cocaine.
 
I took 5000mg of Nuerontin today, and I just took 3000 more...

I love this shit... it hits me harder than rolls do... I can't roll anymore... but this shit is awesome
 
Wow I am ordering more of these hahaha. I could almost write a "trip report" myself after last night.

This drug seems like a dissociative somehow.. I only took a low dose yesterday, 400mg! Just one capsule. After a couple hours it kicked in, and i'm acting a lot more social, sex drive is up, etc. I notice sometimes, it looks like there is something in my peripheral vision and I look but there is nothing. Or I'd see things start to "move" in my peripheral vision.

So i'm smoking some weed with my roommate, and I try to go to sleep. I end up staring at the windows and crap, playing with these "visuals" in my head, making them stronger. I was fuckin' trippin', off one capsule, i thought wow. The weed really enhanced it, also the "body buzz" from weed felt "better" somehow. I was seeing minor trails in the dark with a lit cigarette, definitely "psychedelic" I was thinking as I watched them.

Wierd stuff, I wonder what its actually doing in our heads, what mechanism's it is using to have its pro-social, "laid back", "i don't give a shit" feeling, and the dissociative sensation. Hi doctor quack, no I changed my mind about those benzo's, I heard Neurontin was good for blah blah blah...
 
According to my brief research the drug Neurontin (Gabapentin) is a manipulated form of GABA that allows it to gain access to the central nervous system. It is not known how it works.
It does not bind to GABA receptors, reuptake sites, etc.
Apparently it reacts with calcium subchannels associated with reduction of certain neurotransmitter release. Calcium channels play a role many neuronal processes.

Amazing how something can be prescribed without anyone knowing how it works, but it happens all the time, especially with brain drugs, it seems.

Right now Neurontin is available via offshore pharmacies. Hopefully it will take a while before the powers that be recognize the recreation potentional. Maybe better get it now while legal supplies last.
 
Just wondering if anyone has used this since these last people wrote hehe :)
 
Did'nt even know this shit was any good or else i would have nabbed some from my friend who said they were good but at the time i heard much different than this.
 
Neurontin is great :)

I am on 1600mg now. I haven't had any tolerance since i started it about 9 months ago... and i take 3200mg+ a day
 
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