Mental Health need suggestions in ways if getting sleep

[misticalmarz]

for quite some time now i have been finding it nearly impossible to sleep ive been on various medications for years now ive , tried herbals , exercise , diet , antihistamines , you name it . the problem is even when im full exhausted and pretty much ready to fall asleep as soon as i shut my eyes and relax my brain wont seem to shut its self down for nap time , i will get do sleep about 5.00am , and wil wake up between 9-11.30am . most days i feel pretty scattered and feel like crap , i find tht it does have a toll on my everyday life when i go to speciallist they dont believe me or even twice ive had doctors say they dont know what to do , i have a high tolerence to all drugs . i dont drink caffeen i actually avoid most sugary stuff and anything that wil stimulate me because i get anxiety from caffeen . i can look back to about 2007 when i was in year seven id spend all night up and avoid school cause i was so tired id make up stuff just to stay home id say im sick constantly and just lay in bed trying to sleep i dont know why this is happening i was prescribed ativan about a week ago and that did nothing and that was the last precription pill i had left to try . i was prescribed seroquel a while back and got to 1200mg a day and still wasnt sleeping . there was a part a while back at start off last year where id take mersendol night strenght and id fall asleep duran the day on trains at train stations shopping plazas id be tht pshyicaly exhausted no matter where i was id have to put my head down . i know this is abit long but i do really need some advice from who ever experiences or has experienced something similiar an need to know if this is possibly gunna change . but im running out of options i could see my doctor again but its a 3hr train ride and expensive , but i think he will help me but i cant keep going there and gettin meds off him cause i dong wanna come across as a drug seeker cause a few doctors have told me thats all they think im doin and its not im just trying to get the help i need cause i dong know how much of this i can handle i dont wanna be on medication for the resto of my life i dont wanna solve one problem by creating another . please help me

 

[velmwend]

The only long term solution I've found is trazodone 50mg. Like you, I've tried many pills, including zopiclone, valium, ashwagandha, mirtazapine, phenibut, etc. All effective, but only for the short term. Talk you your gp about trazodone, it's solved my insomnia.

 

[herbavore]

Insomnia is horrible when it is that consistent. My husband and my mom have both lived with intense insomnia for years. Meditation can help you learn to shut your brain chatter off.

 

[pentouch]

Sleep is natural as breathing and walking. You know when you start to observe and think about breathing it becomes odd and somehow off,when you start to think of how you are walking,for instance in front of the girls,you start to walk funny and odd,because theres is too much control. Unfortunately theres only one thing we can control,it is NOT to sleep. Im an insomniac too and what totally made it worse is the attention I gave to my problem TRYING to sleep(adding pills,adding exercies,diet,all those rituals) ,but what can I do..Im in love with my sleep,but it doesnt like me because I try so much,kinda like with girls,they come more when you care less. Sometimes I find it hard to fall asleep and my brains shooting thoughts on full auto,then thoughts become so absurd I dont know where are they heading ,but they dont stop,the thing that helped is to visualize,dont think with words,try to get a visuals of something,paint the numbers from 100 to 0 ,this part is hard for me,so I personally imagine a field or a beach,as long as I dont add words I fall asleep easier,it takes time because imagination has learning curve,but its not rocket science
Youll be there buddy,hang on. Fear feeds on it self. So worrying makes it harder to do our natural routines.
(I know next things I say, you might heard before but they are essential not for making you sleep,but keep things in balance)
Talk ,communicate, socialize with people you like or are true to you(get your mind out there)
Walk,get moving,light exercises,jogging.(sun and air for your body)
Make a sleep journal, all of your problems that are not letting you to relax,make a list,worries about sleep it self included,get your mind on them when needed,so you dont spend time all day thinking of it.
Read that list and go for those things YOLO :D
Natural remedies that will not cause dependency: Valerian root , Kava kava , Kratom ,or just google relaxing teas.
Watch a good movie,maybe a comedy show (but not right before sleep)
Read books before sleep.
Have a benzo prescribed for times when it goes out of hand (youll dont get that reckless feeling and always will have a backup)

 

[CosmicG]

Have you tried soft ambient music yet? I take drugs to help me sleep but when that fails me and my mind still won't stop, I will put on one of my favorite ambient albums and fall right to sleep. Works every time for me.

 

[harmacologist]

exercise
sex

 

[misticalmarz]

umm i think i talked to my doctor once about trazadone he didnt know what it was , the best med i took for sleep and worked best was nitrazapam , but that was theee years ago i had stilnox a few times and tht had a complete oppisit effect i was bouncing of walls it was almost like xanax for me . i used to take vallium cause that most of my sleep problem was caused by anxiety but wen i tool valium id need a whole lot of them and same with oxazepam that got outta hand rivotril on the other hand knocked me out for three days but when i got them this yet thu just made me really agressive , temazepam just make me feel drunk xanax i got highley addicted to so i had to stop because i end up getting imto some big trouple when i blacked out . i had lorazepam the other week and went so fast id seriously wake up 2 hrrs later and take more when i had imovane id only get a really bad taste in my mouth that lasted ages . seroquel worked really great and then something happened with them they make me get really scared off more than 200mg . i also had mirtazapin a couple months ago they only took three days before they stopped working , olamzapine made me put on weight really fast and just made me hungry . and when i haf antihistamine like phernergen i just got a dry mouth , doxylamine did nothing what so ever . i had all these othere hebal teas like valerian root extract some lemon balm or somethin , there was more but i cant remember them but . i did smoke marijuana a few times and that did help a fair bit but i could only end up with indica strains and it full makes me freak out anything else i have taking makes me paranoid not so much paranoid but i think weird and i have to be alone somewhere . i do soacalise abit i live with my girlfriend and our pet puppie and cat and its crazy the animals love each other its a pretty positive setting i do burn some scented stuff everynow and then just to relax me but even when relaxed i cant sleep . there was a stage between october- the start of december where i had complete no anxiety i was falling asleep at about 10:00pm and waking up at between 9:00am-10:am and i was on a ball for that perion no meds or nothin nothing has changed really just some stuff i saw happen that shouldnt of happened but thats all fixed and everyone is ok now . . i dont know what the problem is cause im not thinkin about anything when im trying to sleep my mind stops proccessing thoughs but wont click fully over . i was think maybe a shaman or something but i dont have money to fly to another country and most , stuff to take is illegal here in australia . i did use a little bit of meth too about three years ago and the problem was before that but i found meth would really mellow me out at low doses but then the addiction kicked in and i ha to stop most drugs illegal or not the only ones that actually got me addicted was xanax and meth and i was doin them together but i was fine coming off xanax cause most was focused on the methamphetamine addiction . anything else i didnt get addicted to i just built a high tollerence , i dont know what else to say am i doomed ? or i will find a way ? i used to be able to deal with it but after abit without a break it gets really hard my thought patteren changes

 

[aq.]

Insomnia is horrible when it is that consistent. My husband and my mom have both lived with intense insomnia for years. Meditation can help you learn to shut your brain chatter off.

I agree with herbavore.

Try some meditation, try listening to sleep music, try to journal or blog right before bed to get your thoughts out/"on paper". This has been useful for me. I have a DBT workbook which helps with coping skills that I have taken advantage of, maybe try getting one of those.

Try self soothing. One of the suggestions I like in the book is where you visualize yourself in a "happy place"-- it can be anything. Take in all the sights, sounds, tastes, sensations, etc of your "place". Inhale, then exhale slowly for 5 seconds. Feel your belly puff out, place your hand on it if necessary. Then imagine a beam of light coming out of the sky or ceiling coming onto your head. Imagine it relaxing your mind, and feel the tension fade away. Feel the beam go down to your forhead, jaw, neck, shoulders etc all releasing muscle tension. I think you get the idea.

This has helped me tremendously when I cannot sleep. It's a good tactic to use, in my opinion.