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Opioids Need HELP - NOT WDING WHY??

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podman

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Hello fellow druggies :). I am a long time user of Blue Light, but a first time poster...I need help, I need an answer please. Here is the full story;

Ok, I have been using opiates for about three years. Most of it has been about every other day. Recently though it has been everyday, almost for about a solid 8 months. Now from what I read, opiate withdrawal is horrible, and I have always been afraid of it, but the problem is...I don't seem to get any and I am really shocked and curious to know why?

The only opiates I have ever used are Codeine and these Pods I grind up and make into a tea. I get pure codeine tablets easily and always combine them with my pod tea. When I first started using opiates, I never expected withdrawal because I did not use daily, but this past year I have really been using hard. Especially this past 8 months, even really last 6 months, I have been using 300mg of codeine with about 25-40 pods each and every single day, sometimes twice a day. Very frequent and long term...the past month I have decided to quit.

So I have attempted to quit, and the first night I tried I took serequel to sleep, expecting that when I wake up I am going to be in full blown withdrawal. So I wake up, and almost NOTHING?? I was very surprised, I thought maybe it had something to do with serequel stopping it or something, so as you do I got happy and decided to relapse. I went again full blown for about two weeks, and this time on my first day clean I took nothing at night. I woke up today, and again hardly no withdrawal...all I have had is a little bit of temperature discomfort, that is it. I do not get it.

Can anyone please tell me why I am not withdrawing? Please? I am starting to think that the pods have little morphine in them? And I am not taking a high dose as I think I am? The only other opiate I have ever used is codeine, so I do not know what a true high dose of say oxycontin or heroin feels like...so do you guys reckon that I am not taking much morphine or opiates at all from the pods, and I just think I am? The high feels strong and I like it, but I do not nod out hard or anything..it is just a nice feeling. Now I am starting to wonder what a high dose of oxy would feel like, since I am happy with this pod dose...help please, what do you guys think?
 
So let me get this straight...you take all this stuff at the night time? So you are not high all throughout the day? Typically is that is how you dose your opiates then its gonna take longer for w/d to start. Also, poppy tea for whatever reason lasts for a long time and that means you won't start to w/d for a good while. Even with short acting opioids like heroin some people don't get too bad until the 24 hours mark. Give it 48 hours from your last dose and then see how you feel, maybe even longer before the w/d gets to a point of being moderate to severe.
 
Hi Rtrain, my last dose was exactly 59hours ago, and my withdrawals have not changed. I am still just a little uncomfortable with body temperature and if I go toilet, it is easier to take a crap lol. That is all....I do not get it. Are pods really weak and I have been thinking it was strong all along? I wonder how strong opiates really feel like then, cos I LOVE my pods, imagine if I come across the things you guys have been abusing with those hard withdrawals as a result!!!...

does anyone have experience with pod withdrawal and is my experience similar? Maybe pods don't have bad WD? I am surprised, but the problem is, now that it seems easy, it is going to be harder to commit to quit I think.
 
I used pods daily for many years. The withdrawal is horrendous. From what I read, you've only waited a day before redosing. Pods half life is long, I bet if you took nothing for two to three days you'd be in full blown withdrawal.
 
Dude, if your not getting wd's you are lucky. Stop for as couple of weeks to make sure let your tolly go down and if you want do a little every 3rd day. I did it like that for 6 months before something happened and all of a sudden it was every day.
 
podman said:
Hi Rtrain, my last dose was exactly 59hours ago, and my withdrawals have not changed. I am still just a little uncomfortable with body temperature and if I go toilet, it is easier to take a crap lol. That is all....I do not get it. Are pods really weak and I have been thinking it was strong all along? I wonder how strong opiates really feel like then, cos I LOVE my pods, imagine if I come across the things you guys have been abusing with those hard withdrawals as a result!!!...

does anyone have experience with pod withdrawal and is my experience similar? Maybe pods don't have bad WD? I am surprised, but the problem is, now that it seems easy, it is going to be harder to commit to quit I think.
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The pods you are using might be weak, IDK though. What would your usual pod dosage compare to the 300 mg codeine dose? Cause 300 mg of codeine isn't that bad, conversion chart say it around 30 mg of morphine oral and 20 of oxycodone. That once a day is not going to cause bad w/d's.

And yea, at 59 hours you would be sick for sure, so it seems your lucky enough to avoid debilitating w/d for one reason or another.
 
You sound desperate for help, like you took to much or something. The phrasing and the red letters really reinforce that. But...

You're really scared and freaked out cause you feel fine? You feel totally okay in a situation that makes most people cry... Sounds like you should jumping for joy. I just think it's funny. No disrespect.

Anyways, I don't get withdrawals either. My habit was a super strong habit too. You and I are just really lucky, like really, really lucky.
 
It seriously almost sounds like you kind of want to expierence the hell of opiate withdrawal....be happy you arent feeling very many symptoms. I've been though heroin, oxy, methadone, and bupe withdrawals, and believe me when I say that it's not any fun what so ever. When you get to the point of withdrawal that you're soo sick you seriously end up considering about taking your own life....that's when you know you're in deep. Be lucky you don't have any severe symptoms, hell, even mild symptoms....if I were you I wouldn't even ask questions and ditch opiates. At some point or another you're gonna turn to a stronger opiate and get seriously hooked...stop now while you can. It's the smartest thing you can do.
 
I'm wondering if due to all the different stuff that is present in poppy that has such a long, long half life if maybe it hasn't been long enough to gwet full blown withdrawals...not to be pessimistic but I would give itg a week just to see if that is the case. That way in the future you won't be caught off guard if you really do end up stopping.
 
Personally, I'm jealous to hell of you! Man, you're really not feeling bad after 60 hours? Shit, I'd say it's highly unlikely it would get worse after so long. Maybe you could do a drug test; if it's an accurate tester and it shows a negative reading, then it's almost certain you'll have no discomfort. A codeine withdrawal is very mild, but pods contain quite a lot of opium, so you should indeed be feeling bad. Are you absolutely certain you took opium poppy (papaver somniferum)? If so, are you sure the pods were mature?

Experiencing zero discomfort from a relatively heavy codeine and opium tea habit, could quite possibly make you a medical anomaly. I'll say it again: you're very lucky.

Of course, you could try injecting naloxone; if that doesn't make you sick, then you're absolutely guaranteed to be in the clear. But I have to say this is a very bad idea. Imo the only use for naloxone should be for an opiate overdose.
 
Hey guys, I am so happy for your responses!!!

I am right here right now, can categorically tell you I am not withdrawing...72 plus hours now....those sweats and minor temperature discomfort has stopped. This can not be it?

Now...if I take 300mg of codeine I feel NOTHING, so I definitely am getting a tolerance due to the pods, and yes they are the proper papaver somniferum. I am a little disappointed but also happy and I tell you why; 1) Because now it is going to be harder to stay off my pods as I know that I experience little WD with my current dosing. 2) Since I am experiencing little WD I am more inclined to think that the dosage of morphine is low- hence I could be feeling 100X more higher that I though possible. I LOVE opiates.

What you guys think? Low dose morphine? Or I am some weird person?
 
BupeMan14 said:
It seriously almost sounds like you kind of want to expierence the hell of opiate withdrawal....be happy you arent feeling very many symptoms. I've been though heroin, oxy, methadone, and bupe withdrawals, and believe me when I say that it's not any fun what so ever. When you get to the point of withdrawal that you're soo sick you seriously end up considering about taking your own life....that's when you know you're in deep. Be lucky you don't have any severe symptoms, hell, even mild symptoms....if I were you I wouldn't even ask questions and ditch opiates. At some point or another you're gonna turn to a stronger opiate and get seriously hooked...stop now while you can. It's the smartest thing you can do.
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+1 Agree 100%

I was at this stage with oxycodone 2 years ago I could quit for a week and not get any physical withdrawal symptoms (just cravings and a bit melancholic) from only taking 40 mgs of oxy a day.

Get out while it's still like this.
 
Well its usually 24 hours before you feel the effects. You're only taking 300 mg n not throughout the day? If you leave you will get withdrawals. I was taking 800mg per day n was like death but the mental was the worst.
However, if you don't get withdrawals be bloody thankful lol.
Take care n here if you need to talk
Evey :)
 
I think it's because it's codeine you don't get much buzz from that so don't think u will wd to much true..
 
I know u love opiates, OP, they were also my first and only true love. Take it from somebody with a 13 year plus opiate "career": just because you're not hurting doesn't mean you're immune from withdrawals; nobody is. If you keep taking them, and keep increasing your dose, the opiate will fuck with your body's pain resistance centres, and opiate withdrawal is fucking nightmarish. Nobody can tell you what to do, but I'd say think carefully about committing to an opiate habit. You're very, very lucky to have avoided WD this time, but it's not a free pass to use; the bitch opium has a way of sneaking up on you.
 
Eve and Oppyaddict, I am taking the 300mg of Codeine with/ on top of about 30 - 40 worth of crushed Pod tea...all in one dose, sometimes twice a day. I do not fucking understand it...I still have this feeling that the morphine content is not high in the pods. But, if I take Codeine on its own, as I have tried it before, I feel absolutely NOTHING, so that shows that I am consuming morphine with the pods. I am lost.

Yeah, I am going to get off, but I still want to use on occasion. That is why I prepared for WD after losing my way for a long time, and having no symptoms of WD, hence why I am here.
 
I remember thinking I could handle w/d better than most, too, back when I only did like 60-90 mg of oxycodone a day. I remember justifying myself being able to do it easier because I was in better shape than a lot of addicts, I have a fast metabolism, and I have suffered many awful alcohol hangovers that made me not find the w/d so bad. I could handle going to work and if you knew my job you'd realize it isn't something thats easy to do while w/d'ing.

Well now that my habit is bigger and its been longer I don't feel that way. Even with some Suboxone I still am hurting bad, the Subs make me good enough do something if I had to, but its like I am in slow motion and sore all over.
 
Hi Pod,
I use fresh pods twice a week..15-20 at a time. I don't experience any WD till I'm off them a few days...then I squelch it with Kratom. The WD isn't bad...but it's there.
Be careful...I loved opies too, till they ran my life and told be what to do!
 
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