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(N-ethylnorketamine) - Above methoxetamine means godlike for me

Limitbreaker

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N-ethylnorketamine

Age: 18
Weight: ~60 kilo
Experience: couple of times with DXM, a lot of methoxetamine, 4-MeO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCP
Tolerance (to dissociatives): at the moment of experience, propably minimal. Few days earlier a smaller-dose test of 20mg N-ethylnorketamine was made.

~70mg of N-ethylnorketamine (I’ll just call it ethket) was weighed out of the bag, put into two lines; the bag was washed with 10ml of water which I’ve drinked with some juice, tasted quite bad.

I’ve insufflated both lines, it wasn’t very unpleasant, not any more unpleasant than methoxetamine, just the drip was horribly bitter and annoyed me for 5 minutes.

And after about 8 minutes since insufflation, I’ve started feeling a familiar head pressure, the pressure I only get from insufflating arylcyclohexamines, but this one started to seem like becoming pleasurable... And it did become pleasurable, about 12 minutes after insufflation I’ve started feeling really euphoric but not as much dissociated as on similarily euphoric dose of methoxetamine.

I was smiling all the way, feeling very light, and the euphoria was getting better and better, it was already way above methoxetamine euphoria, it was the euphoria I really liked, more of a “happy child” euphoria one than methoxetamine’s. I put some music on and I noticed after a while of just sitting staring through the window that my left hand was making movements to the music.

For the next 45 minutes I felt what I could describe as extreme euphoria and lightness of body and mind, ethket also had quite of antidepressive effects on me (a known, medically proven fact), I felt like I could do anything in the world, and my upcoming trip to the seas is going to be even more amazing than I thought before. My thoughts were only of the joyful ones. My favourite music was playing all the time, the time I had a moment for myself alone at home I found a way expressing my happyness and euphoria coming out from all my music, body and mind combined: just dancing and jumping around with loads of energy, almost wanting to be loud about it (no pun intended).

This didn’t felt dissociating at all, and/or confusing, didn’t impair my motor skills, but felt incredibly good instead. The sort seems very clean, N-ethyl instead of N-methyl must have added a lot of potency to ketamine.

Worth noting is that ever since I’ve tried drugs, ketamine was always the one to intrigue me the most, not some heroin or cocaine. Those felt to me like the simple drugs, ketamine was the mystery drug for me, and I was ever looking forward to trying it, I always felt like I knew I would love the drug and the time I try it there’s no place for disappointment. And so it became reality.

I have no comparement to normal ketamine, but I’m a methoxetamine lover and I loved this chemical even more. Talk about success when selling this stuff, now that people who used to do ketamine do methoxetamine instead, especially the people who preferred K over MXE.

Thanks, cheers, and awaiting S-enantiomer for purchase! This will be a winner.
 
Hhhhm, sorry for being skeptic, But how sure are you that it's really ethyl-ketamine? Has any testing been done on it? How much do you trust you vendor?

The only place I know that claims to have this is more than sketchy, to say the least.
 
True, I'm not sure. The only testing has been done to another drug from the same source, which (the drug) being far more potentially dangerous due to potency has been chosen over this one. Testing isn't free for us unfortunately :(

It was given as a sample, I'm sure we're talking about the same vendor, but if it was given as a sample then I don't see the point of scamming a sample (unless it is done to attract buyers, then scam THEM - but then, if the sample was real deal, ethylketamine remains amazing and some less sketchy as you say, vendors, could perhaps think about making a move), especially that IMHO (i'm not a chemist) if methoxetamine synth is being done, how far is ethylketamine synth behind? Of course I might be wrong, but the only other thing it could have been by my knowledge would need to be ketamine itself, and by what I've experienced, it'd have to be the stronger enantiomer of it (S).

I understand your concerns... as so they were mine as well..
 
Hhhhm, sorry for being skeptic, But how sure are you that it's really ethyl-ketamine? Has any testing been done on it? How much do you trust you vendor?

The only place I know that claims to have this is more than sketchy, to say the least.

op has tried MXE, DXM, X-XXX-pcp. The duration was only 45 mins so couldnt be any of those anyway, sounds pretty much like the colourfully drunk feeling someone with little to no tolerance could expect from 70mg of K, samples have been sent out.

Sounds legit to me. However, you are right to suggest that anyone selling it atm is not to be trusted
 
N-ethylnorketamine

Since this compound is not yet widely ingested, can you tell us which functional group has been removed from ketamine to yield it (with the n-methyl extended to an n-ethyl as well)?

ebola
 
I'm not gunna lie to ya, I dont understand the question, but, is this the answer ?

"It is an analog of ketamine in which the chlorine atom has been replaced with a methoxy group. Its synthesis by rearrangement of an amino ketone has been reported" ???
 
Sort of.

"nor" suggests that functional group has been removed. This description points instead to the replacement of the chlorine with a methoxy substitution. Is there also a change to the amino group (methyl---->ethyl)? I'm not sure how rearranging the ketone is involved, as ketamine doesn't have an amino ketone.

ebola
 
Since this compound is not yet widely ingested, can you tell us which functional group has been removed from ketamine to yield it (with the n-methyl extended to an n-ethyl as well)?

ebola
That is someone else's interpretation of the chemical name, 'nor' is supposed to suggest the N-methyl is removed (as with, say, "normephedrone") and there is N-ethyl (which is stated) instead. My point is that I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, 'nor''s supposed to state that some methyl is removed... And so that lead me to the point that name Ethylketamine, while it is much easier, can create confusion (this would lead me to a ketamine with N-methyl AND N-ethyl, by my humble chemistry "knowledge")

"It is an analog of ketamine in which the chlorine atom has been replaced with a methoxy group. Its synthesis by rearrangement of an amino ketone has been reported" ???

How is that an answer? You describe 2-MeO-Ketamine. Again, I opt against such names, as at least this one, Ethylketamine, would be actually closer in effects to ketamine than something that has chlorine replaced with methox. IMHO.
 
Oh, I'm really confused know :) I didn't see the "nor". Limitbreaker, Are you sure that's supposed to be there? I was assuming it was Adder's ethylketamine you were talking about:

"Ethylketamine, 2-(2-chlorophenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone

Route/dose: 100mg intramuscularly of HCl salt
Report:
The name is obviously wrong but it’s easy to know what hides there. This is just ketamine with ethyl on amine (just like in case of PCE). This obviously had an impact on drug potency. It’s not stronger by a factor of 2 or 3 but 100mg i.m. knocked me out totally and I was EthylK-holing for about an hour. So it didn’t really alter duration of experience. It’s got already a broken piperidine ring, ethyl is known to be the best when it comes to potency so here it is, get an S-enantiomer and you’ve got a winner."

So in other word's, as ketamine is 2-Cl-2-Oxo-PCM, then ethylketamine would be 2-Cl-2-Oxo-PCE.

As ketamine get's metabolized to norketamine, I'm assuming that ethylketamine would get metabolized to norethylketamine. Can't see why somebody would go about synthing that? As the body does it by itself, in a way.
I'm no chem expert at ALL! So So I'm assuming to stand corrected :)

Too bad you never tried ketamine to compare them. To be honest, I think 70 mg normal ketamine insufflated without tolerance would give a stronger experience than what you describe, and I would expect ethylket to be stronger.

What is the other compound you mention that you are getting tested, if I may be so bold to ask?
 
I was assuming it was Adder's ethylketamine you were talking about:
Yes, but why would you assume it's not the same compound we're talking about?

Yes, I mean 2-Cl-2-Oxo-PCE.
 
Very interesting post. I'd really like to see a few more trip reports on this substance If you happen to procure more of the compound. =D
Somewhat off-topic:
To OP: Would you cite your reference for this substances anti-depressive effects in your post?
 
I think that the compound in question should be ketamine with the N-methyl group replaced by an N-ethyl group. removing the N-metyl from ketamine gives norketamine, and then adding a N-ethyl gives the compound in question. the nomenclature is a bit awquard here...


anyways, replacing the N-methyl group with an N-ethyl group should increase the potency.
 
I think we all know what compound we are talking about here. I still think that calling it ethylnorketamine is wrong. But it doesn't really matter.

I've been thinking about this, and I would like to warn people that the only vendor claiming to stock this is a very dodgy selective scammer. Some people recieved unlabeled chemicals, others recieved inactive chemicals and some never recieved at all. The worst thing about this vendor is that he offers 5-10% discount in return for reports of human consumption! Not good when talking RC's.


I'm not saying Limitbreaker is a shill, but "Above methoxetamine means godlike for me" 8)

Caveat emptor
 
I'm not saying Limitbreaker is a shill, but "Above methoxetamine means godlike for me"
I don't have it tested. It is yours to judge, but then again - if the effects are equal to ketamine, then the reason for me to say that would be that I'd prefer ketamine over methoxetamine, I just haven't tried it yet because it is so unavailable.

The worst thing about this vendor is that he offers 5-10% discount in return for reports of human consumption!
I am not getting the samples directly, I'm not even using this particular vendor for the reason you've stated; I have my own sources anyway.

One person offered testing the sample by lab and so it goes whether was it real or fake. I can't know.

Would you cite your reference for this substances anti-depressive effects in your post?
There have been studies about it, I don't know though whether this is a good source, however people do get this effect from both ketamine and methoxetamine, perhaps other NDMA antagonists, and it has been reported on bluelight many times.
 
Just for the record, are we talking about (RS)-2-(2-Chlorophenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone here?
 
Have just received a sample of this one. It is a white crystalline powder. I don't have much to work with but am considering an 80mg dose insufflated, after the initial allergy test. I have a huge tolerance to ketamine and have noticed significant cross-tolerance issues within the arylcyclohexylamine family so am predicting that this dose will not deliver particularly earth-shattering effects.

The sample I received and what I assume we are discussing here is (RS)2-(2-chlorophenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone, N-Ethyl-K, NEK
 
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