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Mushrooms -- SomewhatExperienced -- Mental Torture(LONG)

nephil

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Well, this was my 4th time eating mushrooms, and i must say, the experience was completely unique to the other 3.
The plan:::To ingest an 8th of mushrooms per person, along with some good friends, B, J, and L,
enjoy the fireworks in town, then head to J's house for a little party between all of us and some others.
The outcome:::An evening of personal chaos and mental trauma, spent with two not-so good friends...E and D.
8pm--Ingest an eighth of mushrooms with E and D, then meet up with J, B, and L at J's house.
8:30pm--Begin to feel different. I am noticing a silly, yet speedy like feeling consuming my body and mind. All in all I feel really good, and happy that I decided to partake, looking forward to the night. E is claiming to feel the mushrooms already as well. We then go to J's house to meet J and L, and we all proceed to walk to the park, where the fireworks would be taking place.
As we are walking, I am noticing that my legs feel very wobbly, and my knees feel like they want to give out. It feels neat to walk with a long stride, dipping my butt towards the ground.
As we approach the park, the streets become more crowded. I notice the voices in the crowd mostly. I am hearing every conversation as if they are being directed towards me personally. I am noticing a change in the way I am seeing other people, like they are covered with shadows and dark spots due to the street lights shining from above.
We get to the park, and it is almost complete darkness. The crowd is thick and there is a concrete path that leads into the center. I remember feeling as if i am entering a mystical forest, and these mumbling voices that i hear are beckoning me to come along and follow the grey road...
The crowd is now getting onery, waiting for the show to begin, so there is alot of whistling and shouting going on. But to me, it is all blending together, like a wind of sound flowing out of the bushes and trees.
We eventually find a spot to sit, and wait for the fireworks to begin.
9:30pm--the show begins. I realize that i am more interested in the formations of the smoke from the fireworks then i am in the fireworks themselves. As i sit and watch, i am really feeling the effects of the mushrooms come on strong. After the show, the crowd rises, and there are people hustling everywhere. The 5 of us decide to just sit and wait for the crowd to thin out. As we sit there, i felt as if the 5 of us were in an orderly, calm world, and all outside of our bubble was pure chaos. Robots hustling all over the place with voided looks on their faces.
As the crowd thinned out, we decide to walk to J's, which was less than a mile away. As we are walking through the crowd, i feel as if we are puppets, moving steadily, yet awkwardly through the masses like we are being pulled by a string. Colors start to look super intense, and i said to J..."our world is 'technicolor'", he responded by saying..."wtf, it's real color", obviously not seeing things the way i was.
That statement is where the negativity began to consume me.
11pm--the walk took forever, but we finally arrived at J's, where he and L decide to take off to another party. I was somewhat upset by this, as I was forced to hang out with E and D for the rest of the trip. All I can say is the next hour is a blur. I was trapped in a world of negative mental torture, as E and D made my trip take a turn for the worse. I kept feeling all of my insecurities surface, and kept seeing everyone around me as ugly and distorted...enhancing all of their negative characteristics and bringing them to surface. Then, i would dwell on what i was doing, and how ridiculous it was that I was living the life I am living. I was having thoughts of hopelessness, of despair, like wtf am I doing with my life...
We were heading to meet up with B, who was just getting off of work, and to my surprise, this was the only thought that gave me hope. I could not control the horror that was occuring in my mind until I was around B. For some reason, his positive energy totally canceled out all of the negative feelings I was recieving from E and D. Being around him totally reset my karma back to its proper order, and everything became almost calm again. The main thing was, I was able to better control the bad feelings.
12:30am--we head back to J's house where he and L claim to be "going crazy". This also brought comfort to my mind, as I knew we would all be back together. However, when we get to J's (who BTW is my very very good buddy), I try to talk and tell him of the horrible feelings I am having, and he rudely brushes me off, as if it's not important right now. This finished me for the night. I hung out for a while, but couldn't get the bad thoughts about everyone out of my head, and was not in an environment that would allow me to sort these feelings out thoroughly. So, I decided to go home, and be by myself.
To cut this short, I will end here, due to the length of this post already. But to sum it all up, this night has impacted my thoughts about these people. Why does this happen? Is it an effect of the drug, or is it their "true colors"? And why would one person's positive energy be able to re-direct my trip from downhill to steady or uphill???
I guess, for me, some drugs are better left to experience alone.
[ 08 July 2002: Message edited by: nephil ]
 
Good report! Thanks for sharing! :)
And it wasn't too long, it would actually be good to see the how the rest of the trip went.
I'm not really sure I know how to answer your question, but psychedelics do open up doors of perception that are usually filtered out by the brain as "junk" (Just like dreams, which are believed to be thoughts, feelings and memories buried deep within your sub-conscience, which also, are deleted by the brain normally, unless you wake up right after or during a dream).
But if there are people around, that you are not comfortable with, or people saying or doing negative things around you, then that is going to influence your trip greatly, and can send it in any direction.. Remember, one bad thought can lead to thousands in a matter of seconds on mushrooms. Which will very quickly move onto thoughts about your life, and every tiny thing you wish you could do over again, or what ever.
So people, when you trip, please take care with your set and setting, and check out The Good Trip Guide.
 
Nephil, I totally understand even though my first trip was this past thursday. The smallest things can just turn your whole mindset around. It can be really upsetting too!
I enjoyed the rest of my trip alone, even thought I kinda wanted someone there to talk to. Maybe we should trip together next time, heheh ;)
I have also decided that some people just suck. Period. :) Shrooms or not.
*Meg
 
Sorry to hear you had a difficult time but thanks for posting about your experience.
I could write a huge post to answer your questions, but basically....
When it comes to friendship:
  • Some people who you think are your friends really do suck. Why? Because the friendship hasn't been tested yet, and when examined more closely they aren't really around when you need them.
  • Some people really are your tried and true friends. Even if they can't help you with something, or actually make it worse, they were doing the best they could and had your best interests in mind.
  • Some people seem helpful at times but still really aren't your friends. They will always try to extract more from you than they would ever give you in return. Even when they help you with something, it was probably an issue that was very easy for them or they had a separate agenda.
  • Some people don't seem helpful and definitely aren't your friends. These people should be pretty easy to identify for a normal, healthy person. No mixed signals from this group.
When it comes to tripping:
  • People are either (1) tripping with you or (2) your official trip sitter; unless you desire the presence of extra people, no one else should be present
  • If someone is tripping with you, anticipate you might need to spend the entire experience with them
  • If your tripping partners get into trouble, you will need to stop what you are doing (as best you can) and try to help them; and vice versa
  • A trip sitter's first priority has to be helping the trippers they are watching; if someone can't give you that, they are not a trip sitter
  • I always try to have three different possible locations in mind of where I can go when tripping; if primary location goes to shit, you need other options
I wrote these lists up really quick, but your post kind of brought these thoughts into my mind.
 
Thanks C-22 and everyone for the advice. With each new experience I learn what works best for me...and that every experience will be different no matter what. And what is important is for me to be comfortable with what I am doing from the beginning.
 
As we sit there, i felt as if the 5 of us were in an orderly, calm world, and all outside of our bubble was pure chaos. Robots hustling all over the place with voided looks on their faces.
But you see my friend, ^ that is exactly what it is.
As for the amplified negativity, no one can tell 'why' it happens. Basically, your thought process is amplified to an extend that you can introspect so deeply into your life as to get confused by it. You are confronted with things you dont normally have to deal with. It is here, as every shroomer encounters this (As well as users of all strong psychedellics) where you must remember a quote from Morpheus, in The Matrix.
"You have to let it all go Neo; fear, doubt, and disbelief. Free your mind."
Basically, you need to be strong. Overcome fear with your own power. If you think your life is going no where, think to yourself, why is going no where a bad thing? Know that you have your WHOLE life ahead of you to do 'something' with, and that pondering about it while this young is fruitless. If you are shaded out by the uglyness, know what you believe to be beutiful, and look for it. Know that we are all human, none of us is fundamentally better than any other, we're all victims of hypocrisy in one way or another. You have to find beauty in everything or eventually the ugly may consume you. Rise above your fear. Rise about your doubts. Rise above your disbeliefs. Attack the things that are scaring you, dont let them corner you. If you doubt yourself, you will fall. If you believe in yourself (as corney as it sounds) you will always prevail. Take control over your own mind, or, as much of an option as it doesn't seem, abstain. Dont use powerful psychedellics if you cant control your ability to overcome your doubts and fears, because I assure you, they will confront you many more times in the future. I am not saying that I am perfect at this discipline, for I too often fall into circles of doubt and fear when tripping, and it is difficult to get out of. But, like you said, a familiar face is great to help yourself get out.
Oh and this was a good report. I like to see both sides of a trip, positive and negative. (And dont worry about length!)
[ 29 July 2002: Message edited by: THE WOOD ]
 
:)
WOOD, thanks for your words! :)
Just to add, I actually did come out of this with a new understanding. Dealing with the chaos in my mind was just enough to make me realize that I am a stronger, better person, and that I am able to sort these things out on my own, even if it seems that negativity has consumed me.
I appreciate the advice from all
 
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