moving to europe to escape false charges

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I have been accused falsely and am looking at 20 years in the federal penn. If I were to move to Europe, would I be in trouble with the law there?
 
Find a country that does not have an extradition agreement with the country you are being charged in.
 
^^yea exactly if youre gonna leave. remember though, if you leave, you probably shouldnt come back since you could get fucked for getting pulled over for running a stop sign, then you might as well bend over...
 
Jean Valjean said:
^^yea exactly if youre gonna leave. remember though, if you leave, you probably shouldnt come back since you could get fucked for getting pulled over for running a stop sign, then you might as well bend over...
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depending on the statute of limitations, yes.
 
They tend to regard running away from false charges just as seriously as running away from real charges (b/c they don't think the charges are false, obviously).

You run, you're in even more trouble when they catch you. Now, you go through a US airport (or wherever you live), your passport will be flagged, and you won't be allowed to leave the country. Even if you do get through, as 9mm says, there's an extradition process and you'll be sent back by the other country.

Legally, there's no good way you can do it, unless you get lucky at the US end, and get to a country without an extradition treaty. Illegally? Well, we're not here to teach you how to break the law.

Do you have no chance of fighting the case? If it's truly a false accusation, can you not defend the charge?
 
we should set up a bluelight 'freedom train' to countries without extradition agreements to the US!
 
just curious but does anyone know what countries have no extradition to the US. Didnt Michael Jackson move somewhere with no extradition?
 
Even if you find a country without an extradition treaty, and that's worth living in, you've still got to get there. How would someone get from the US to Africa, other than flying? In which case, you've got to go through US customs at the airport, an d you'd get nailed.

Of the list of countries, Samoa (Western Samoa, not American Samoa) could be the best option.
 
Sim0n said:
Even if you find a country without an extradition treaty, and that's worth living in, you've still got to get there. How would someone get from the US to Africa, other than flying? In which case, you've got to go through US customs at the airport, an d you'd get nailed.

Of the list of countries, Samoa (Western Samoa, not American Samoa) could be the best option.
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boat.
 
9mmCensor said:
depending on the statute of limitations, yes.
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or unless a warrant has been issued for an arrest, since a warrant is good until served.

to the original poster -- i think you should get yourself a lawyer and fight the charges rather than running from the law, in which case you will be charged again. i dunno what legitimate purpose this thread can really serve...
 
Unless you are a high profile fugitive you will not get caught leaving the US, you don't go through customs leaving the US. You will get caught returning to the US.

Look unless your family is wealthy and can support you living in another country as an illegal immigrant you need to rethink this.
To stay in any country you will have to apply for permanent residency and unless you are wealthy or highly skilled don't bother. The one way around this is marriage, marry a local and you can apply and likely succeed.
They will want as part of the application process a clean criminal history from your home state. You won't be able to get this, so your options are live as a illegal immigrant only able to work under the table or forgery in some less developed countries.

I have experience in immigration and this attitude that you can rock into any country on earth say hey its cool dudes I'm American and they will cheer is mind boggling.
 
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I'm not American so I'm sure you're probably right about the USA; but for sure in my country, they check your passport on the way out, not just on the way in. And people definitely get stopped on the way out; even those who are accused of crimes that aren't the most severe.

You're 100% right about how hard it would be to get residency in a new country :). Not to mention, when you apply for residency they will surely do a basic background check, at which point the OP would show up on their records as having an outstanding warrant. Not to mention, I'm still convinced he would be caught going into another country.
 
Infinite Jest said:
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I'm not American so I'm sure you're probably right about the USA; but for sure in my country, they check your passport on the way out, not just on the way in. And people definitely get stopped on the way out; even those who are accused of crimes that aren't the most severe.

You're 100% right about how hard it would be to get residency in a new country :). Not to mention, when you apply for residency they will surely do a basic background check, at which point the OP would show up on their records as having an outstanding warrant. Not to mention, I'm still convinced he would be caught going into another country.
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My experience in America for international flights is when you go to the airport to get your boarding pass(most airline tickets are bought online or on the phone with credit cards)you go up the airline counter and the clerk asks to see your passport to confirm you have one. She just looks at it and confirms its your name and picture because here it is the airlines responsibility not to let non-passport holders on international flights. You get your boarding pass, when entering the boarding area there is a employee to match your passport name to the name on the pass. Then its the normal metal detector bullshit, then you board the plane. You deal with whatever country you are going to customs when you lane.

There is a "no fly list" that flags people on name, but its not really used for fugitives more "Terrorist suspects". Now if the state or county that brought the charges has reason to believe you're fleeing through some airport they can call and get everyone to keep an eye out for you. Or if you're some high profile fugitive on CNN you can be sure of getting caught.

Most countries make you procure the background check, you have to go to any state you've lived in ever and get a clean criminal history from the police.
This is a giant weakness in the system.
 
As others have said, it is very likely that your passport has been flagged if you're charged already.

This means that you'd have to escape the country illegally, which I believe (but could be wrong) makes for another charge if you do get caught.

Its a very difficult situation and I hope you have a life-time supply of tranquilizers... :\
 
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