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Opioids Morphine SR 15mg not providing opium dreams/lucid dreaming?

MMPA

MMPA

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Main question: Is it possible to achieve the state of the serene opium dreams with morphine sulphate SR 15mg tablets? (Tablets are ABG 15's)

Background: Recently, I've been using 15mg Morphine Sulfate SR pills (the extended release form) for about two months every 1-2 days (NOT daily) to aid in my studies since the calming effect helps me sit still and focus on homework. I am familiar with the effects of oral Morphine and after responsibly experimenting with them, I cannot seem to achieve a "recreational" high with them; specifically, I am looking for the lucid opiate dreams (what IS present is the histamine itch, body heaviness, sedation/nod, but all of these are only of moderate intensity when attempting "higher" doses of 100mg+). Dosages attempted have been 15mg, 30mg, 45mg, and so on in 15mg increments all the way up to 150mg in both the crushed and uncrushed forms on an empty stomach (waited 4 hours before eating) on separate days. I feel that I have been consistently failing, only achieving a moderate high and no lucid dreaming. I know that morphine taken orally is a waste, but I cannot figure out any other way to use them since they are too low of a dosage to be insufflated, the gelling-up properties make it useless for plugging, sublingual/buccal is not an option because that'd be like a mouthful of clay, and I will not IV/IM/subcutaneously administer these due to the large danger present with these ROA's. Potentiators such as diphenhydramine, methocarbamol, and hydroxyzine have not been much help when co-administered with morphine nor do I enjoy the effects they add. I've also tried eating a fatty meal beforehand since that usually helps with potentiating oral opiates for me, but that did not seem to make a significant difference either.

I am familiar with opiates and I am able to achieve this lucid dreaming state with codeine orally @ 100mg+, hydrocodone orally @ 10mg+, oxycodone insufflated (to a lesser extent) @ 10mg+, hydromorphone rectally @ 2mg+, diamorphine insufflated @ 20mg+, tramadol orally @ 200mg+, and even AH-7921 orally @ 150mg+. I am baffled because morphine is the main component in opium and opium is notorious for the aptly-named "opium dreams", yet this seems to be lacking with my experiences.

Any advice on whether achieving this opium dream state is possible? I do not want to jump up to 200mg+ and risk extreme respiratory depression if achieving this state is not possible. Also, how can I use these in a less wasteful manner i.e. not taken orally?
 
I'm not sure what to say I'm not particularly experienced with morphine although I have had a bunch of kadian 60mg and a few other types. It's possible morphine doesn't stimulate the opiate receptors like the others do that you mentioned, at any dose. However I'm aware of what you're talking about -lucid and vivid dreams- and I'm pretty sure morphine did it for me just like any other opiate. Btw just so you know, you can plug that morphine and double the amount that enters the bloodstream. Just crush them and backload the powder into an oral syringe, suck up water, shake, and shoot it up your butt. I recommend you clear your bowels before by taking a dump and/or shooting just water up there and then squeezing it out. You can look at the morphine wiki page about bioavailability. Maybe doing that will have an impact how the morphine is metabolized and possibly produce more lucid dreams. Also, have you considered your tolerance? For me tolerance is a big factor for how lucid dreams end up being. I know you said you're not taking it everyday but every other day or even a week in between will still increase your tolerance. And after just a month you can have an enormous change in how effective the drug is.
 
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You can plug them bro and you will get your best results. Crush them well as good as you can and add about a shot glass of water and let them sit over night. They will have broken down and gelled but another shot glass or less will liquefy sufficient to plug.
 
Roxane man, I wish it was that easy. I cannot plug them due to them gelling up. I've already attempted that method and after crushing them up as finely as possible and putting them in the syringe with water, the powder clumps up and sticks together, forming a thick, putty-like consistency which makes it impossible to push down the syringe.

And in regards to my tolerance, I considered that but I don't think that it's a big factor because 1) I never was able to achieve the effect intially and 2) I currently can still feel the effects from lower dosing, but when I jump up to doses like 120 or 150mg I don't feel a doubling or tripling in the effects. If it helps, I didn't mean that I continued to increase my dosage in 15mg increments over the course of time, but rather I have attempted different doses ranging from 15-150mg over time. For example, for the past 7 days I've taken 60mg uncrushed every other day but today I attempted 120mg crushed and I would not say that I feel the effect doubled or tripled, which should be the case especially since crushing them reduces the effect of the time-release mechanism. That is where my concern for safety comes in regarding reaching the lucid dreaming state: even if I already have a tolerance, how high must I go to get there? Or is "getting there" even possible?
 
Shadowsblaze said:
You can plug them bro and you will get your best results. Crush them well as good as you can and add about a shot glass of water and let them sit over night. They will have broken down and gelled but another shot glass or less will liquefy sufficient to plug.
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That sounds like a lot of liquid to plug (I had a 3mL syringe). I'm assuming I'd have to refill my syringe a few times to get it done. I'll have to see about trying that next time, ma syringe broke.
 
MMPA said:
That sounds like a lot of liquid to plug (I had a 3mL syringe). I'm assuming I'd have to refill my syringe a few times to get it done. I'll have to see about trying that next time, ma syringe broke.
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You can plug up to 90-100 ml of fluid before you create a bowel emptying enema...
 
Everyone says the ABG preparation is the easiest to extract... pretty easy, tbh. Search engine will provide.
 
I had mentioned in another thread that I used a chicken, turkey injector with a rubber tube, Not the injector needle. It holds quite a bit and the aperture is about the size of a pens ink refill a good sixteenth of an inch.
 
If ur gonna plug them try crisping the powder first or try the cook and push the gel to the side method ...i used to shoot er morphine like that...ugghhhh terrible.should be fine to plug thp
.a lot of generic er morphine (in Canada anyway) can be cooked with water until t the waxes clumptogether and float to the surface.suck up the liquid and plug...I find Purdues name brand MS Contin has to be crisped and prepped woth ice cold water for best results

I don't want to sound like I'm pressuring u.or suggesting it, but I believe IV is the only way to experience morphine,Dilaudid. heroin and oxymorphone. the codones and methadone are the drugs that can reach they're full recreational value when taken orally,nasally and rectally
 
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maybe morphine is not the drug for you

if you don't get the desired effects at 150mg orally... congratulations, welcome to tolerance land, where people are never able to enjoy low dose opioids ever again

morphine is not meant for induction of lucid dreams. it is meant for analgesia. the fact that some people get lucid dreams is merely a side effect
 
/\...lol yep this is true.

If you do a search on BL you will find the method that I also use is suggested and this is the best way to do it with extended release morphine and works absolutely well with no problems.

You do not have to crisp or cook them as someone suggested and you are not doing it correctly which is why it is clumped up.

Crush the tablet as fine as you can. Place it in a small container (someone suggested shot glass and that works fine..I use a little 5ml dosing cup such as comes with childrens liquid medication). Add 5ml of water. Let it sit for 12 to 24 hours. It will completely dissolve the medication though it will be a little slimy and the viscocity is a little thicker than water you will have no problems drawing it up (or shooting it out) of a needless syringe. I sometimes will add another 5 ml of water to the cup and swish it around and draw that up too just to make sure I have it all. So as long as you have a 10ml syringe you are good. This works very well and rectal is the very best route to go with these. I am speaking from personal experience and as a nurse for 20 years.

The comment about doing the morphine IV...very bad idea. Morphine, especially extended release morphine tablets are notoriously bad to inject IV.

*edit* you can purchase a 10ml syringe with no needle at any drug store as they are sold in the childrens medication section to administer liquid meds to little ones.

Sorry shadowblaze..somehow I didn't read your post suggesting pretty much same procedure...but OP it does work the best.
 
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Yes i said iv morphine from er tblets is bad.. was just telling him why i think he's not getting the full effect.
also the method i told the op abou,only requir a 1cc rig with the needle removed...seems a bit more comfortable then a 10 cc
 
OntarioGuy said:
Yes i said iv morphine from er tblets is bad.. was just telling him why i think he's not getting the full effect.
also the method i told the op abou,only requir a 1cc rig with the needle removed...seems a bit more comfortable then a 10 cc
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Absolutely nothing uncomfortable about 10 little ccs/mls
 
10cc oral syringe, the one I just pulled out of my drawer is about as wide about as a dime...c'mon. You can do it. Don't punk out. :)
 
If you are going to plug with a luer-lock syringe, by a thick guage dispensing needle...

No smaller than 18 gauge... I use a 14 gauge...

Makes for little to no leakage... You can damn near plug molasses with it...
 
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