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Treatment rates for marijuana nearly tripled between 1992 and 2002, the government says, attributing the increase to greater use and potency.

"This report is a wake-up call for parents that marijuana is not a soft drug," said Tom Riley, a spokesman for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. "It's a much bigger part of the addiction problem than is generally understood."

Advocates of legalizing marijuana disagreed, saying the trend was largely due to an increase in marijuana arrests and had almost nothing to do with more people seeking treatment because they thought their own health was at risk.

"They have the option of going into treatment for marijuana or going to jail," said Paul Armentano, senior policy analyst for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

FBI records show a substantial increase in marijuana-related arrests during the decade studied, from about 340,000 in 1992 to about 700,000 in 2002.

The study on treatment rates was conducted by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, which estimated that 41 states had an increase in the number of people who sought treatment for marijuana use during the decade studied. The estimates reflect the number of people who get help at a drug or alcohol treatment center, which can include clinics, hospitals or private doctor's offices, administration officials said.

Admissions declined in three states: Alaska, New Mexico and Massachusetts. Three others, Arizona, Mississippi and Kentucky, had incomplete data from which to draw a conclusion.

The report said comparisons were difficult in four states - Ohio, Texas, West Virginia and Virginia - because of changes in the facilities that reported. However, a map in the report showed Virginia as one of the states that had experienced an increase. SAMHSA official Deborah Trunzo could not explain the discrepancy.

Overall, the admission rates for marijuana treatment rose from 45 per 100,000 people in 1992 to 118 per 100,000 people in 2002, the latest year such numbers are available.

"Marijuana is not a harmless substance, and these treatment trends emphasize that point," said SAMHSA Administrator Charles Curie.

A spokeswoman for the agency said the study did not determine whether people sought treatment on their own or were ordered to do so by a court.

"We have no way of knowing why there are so many more going for treatment. The data just tells us that there are," said spokeswoman Leah Young.

She added, "Being forced into treatment does not indicate you don't need it."

Dr. Terry Horton, who treats people for drug addiction at the Phoenix House in New York, said he's not surprised by the federal government's numbers.

"We provide long-term residential treatment, and when they need that level of care, it's a severe problem we're dealing with, and it almost always involves marijuana and alcohol," Horton said.

Treatment can take up to two years and involves working with individuals on their attitudes and behaviors. Horton said he was skeptical of assertions that the treatment trends were simply the result of stiffer law enforcement.

"That's just a fallacy," Horton said. "We're in the trenches, and we take care of individuals whose lives are very much disrupted by any number of substances, including marijuana."

The Drug Policy Alliance, which seeks to legalize marijuana and regulate it along the lines of alcohol, said an increase in the number of people forced into treatment for marijuana takes up bed space for those addicted to more harmful drugs.
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More seek help for marijuana addiction

By Kevin Freking, Associated Press
March 4, 2005


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From the SAMHSA press release:
The number of marijuana admissions to treatment per year more than tripled in the 1992-2002 time period. Marijuana admissions increased from six percent to 15 percent of all admissions. In 1992 admissions to treatment for marijuana were at a national rate of 45 admissions per 100,000 population ages 12 and older. In 26 states, the rate was less than 50 per 100,000 population.

By 1997 the rate of treatment admissions for marijuana abuse more than doubled to 93 admissions per 100,000 persons ages 12 or older. In 2002, the treatment admission rate for marijuana abuse had risen to 118 admissions per 100,000 persons ages 12 or older. Six states had admission rates less than 50 per 100,000 and 21 states had rates of 139 or more per 100,000 population.

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Read the actual report, "Trends in Marijuana Treatment Admissions by State: 1992-2002", here.
 
give me a fuckin break
wack shit.
"attributing the increase to greater use and potency"
that or more people forced into rehab
or since everbody seems to have some kind of mental illness or problem nowadays more people are happy to have one too
"now i have my very own addiction too wah wah i am working tbhrough my struggle with this deadly disease"

or with peeps getting richer and richer now more stupid parrents can afford to send their kids off to rehab for dumb shit that aint really a problem but that 'uncle sam' has told them is a problem

Oh yea what the fuck is this shit ""Being forced into treatment does not indicate you don't need it."
true...if you were tallking about a crack addict in denial...
the majority of people forced into rehab for weed is peeps who got arrrested for it and gave a choice between that and the joint just like they said
so how tha fuck does that relate to needing it? they dont give a shit about ANYONES addiction other then how they can benefit from it. gotta make that $$$$$ right? (court fees fines etc from peeps theyve caught)
nobodys in there evaluating SHIT.
ive never hearrd of someone forced into rehab for weed other then by their parrents, or court, and it aint like weeds a drug where youre friends all tell you how bad you look lately and how its such a problem. cuz the people who smoke like that, eventually realize it and take they own asses to rehab, or are wack ass burnouts who realy woulnt give a fuck anyway

its shit that works out on its own
 
Admissions declined in three states: Alaska, New Mexico and Massachusetts
Did anybody else notice that the 3 states which had a DECLINE in admissions are the SAME states which had MAJOR marijuana decriminalization laws on their ballots recently?!? ALL of these states had instituted partial decriminalization efforts during the time-span studied... Its easy to see that these states have a MUCH more libertarian philosophy towards marijuana enforcement and prosecution... New Mexico had the ONLY libertarian governor (who happened to be FOR drug-decriminalization, and openly admitted to using marijuana) for many of those years.

Now why, I wonder would states with a libertarian political slant have fewer people enter treatement for marijuana addiction??? Could it possibly be that the number of people FORCED into treatment by the legal system COMPLETELY outnumbers the number of marijuana-smokers who VOLUNTARILY SEEK TREATMENT by such a HUGE amount that any differences in level of enforcement between the states outweighs a NATIONWIDE trend? I'm going to go with a "YES" on this one... because I'm not an idiot, like these reporters seem to be. (I don't usually insult the intelligence of people I've never met, but when you read a study saying "# of people entering Treatment for XXX increases", you attribute a MOTIVE to ALL of those people whom you've never met for entering treatment, and claim that they ALL "Seek help for marijuana addiction"

What can we do to help lower the number of people entering treatment for "marijuana addiction"? I'd say the BEST thing one can do is to join the Libertarian Party, because it seems that there is a DIRECT inverse correlation between the proportion of libertarians in a state and the number of people in that state who enter treatment for marijuana addiction!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=&cat=&meta=&q=massachusetts+marijuana+decriminalization

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=alaska+marijuana+decriminalization
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q="new+mexico"+marijuana+decriminalization

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q="new+mexico"+libertarian+governor
 
So arresting people for pot and making them go to rehab counts as "seeking help"? blahh

Also, the old governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson, is a Republican. Check the bottom link :)
 
Also Gary Johnson ran on a Conservative ticket, but obviously his beliefs lean toward a Libertarian platform.
 
i'm in treatment right now for marijuana addiction. the official reason for my entrance into this treatment program was "cannabis dependency." a load of crap if i ever heard one. most of the people who are in treatment for marijuana, and marijuana alone, are NOT there voluntarily. some people are forced by their jobs, some schools, some parents, some court systems. i say the number has tripled because the government is becoming more and more controlling in a debate that is not theirs to be had.
i'm forced, now, to "admit" being a drug addict because i smoke pot(a lot, but you know what i'm saying). day after day i have to convince these people that i think-know-there is a problem with marijuana. they're trying to brainwash me into believing something i DO NOT and WILL NOT believe.

i'd like for the government to go further into their study and perhaps look at the REASONS so many people are in treatment rather than throw out a skewed statistic. then get back to me with a real number.
FUCK THE SYSTEM!
 
Here are some extremely valuable links on the subject of Compulsary Treatment as an alternative to imprisonment for drug-offenders... (I still don't see what's so offensive about using drugs in one's own home... but that's what the law calls it):
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/aus/can_ch5.htm
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/drugcour.htm

The latter has this statistic for the year of 2001:
Total number of individuals who have enrolled in adult drug court programs: 226,000

I definately don't see the policy of diverting drug-users to treatment instead of prison as a BAD idea, but it is endemic of the prevailing political climate that EVERY drug user, including extremely occasional marijuana users, who come in contact with the court system are considered to have "an addiction" and referred to "Drug Rehab Facilities" (at a profit to all parties involved, except the victim...). This type of "one size fits all" drug-policy insults the intelligence of those who are able to use with restraint, and wastes their money on unneccessary treatment. Court-ordered treatment can cost the offender up to $10,000 - not including the HUGE time-burden, which can adversely affect employment, considering that its difficult to find an employer willing to understand why one must be absent X many days a week for drug treatment at very precise time or else be thrown in jail.

stpbuddhakween, how much is your "rehab" costing, and who is footing the bill? How many days a week/hours a day are you required to attend? How many weeks does it continue? How many people are in a class, and what is the salary of the person leading it? Are the marijuana users in the same class as those using other drugs? Have you met anybody else in the class who presently has access to harder drugs? Do you have any idea of the percentage of people in the class who are in the class because a court ordered them to attend? In addition to the fee for the rehab, was there an additional court fee for attending it?

If you don't mind sharing, what was the charge which led to your court apperance? What state do you live in?
 
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stpbuddhakween said:
i'm in treatment right now for marijuana addiction. the official reason for my entrance into this treatment program was "cannabis dependency." a load of crap if i ever heard one. most of the people who are in treatment for marijuana, and marijuana alone, are NOT there voluntarily. some people are forced by their jobs, some schools, some parents, some court systems. i say the number has tripled because the government is becoming more and more controlling in a debate that is not theirs to be had.
i'm forced, now, to "admit" being a drug addict because i smoke pot(a lot, but you know what i'm saying). day after day i have to convince these people that i think-know-there is a problem with marijuana. they're trying to brainwash me into believing something i DO NOT and WILL NOT believe.

i'd like for the government to go further into their study and perhaps look at the REASONS so many people are in treatment rather than throw out a skewed statistic. then get back to me with a real number.
FUCK THE SYSTEM!

So they force you to enter a rehab program?......and if you do not admit that you have a problem, you don't pass the *rehab*?

Hell just stand up and say *I was FORCED to be here, I have nothing to say* and sit back down LOL
 
uhhh

most people labeled as marijuana "addicts" were labeled so by the legal system, and of course prolly were just chronic smokers or less.

the government's standards for an addict is if you smoke regularly. You are considered a regular smoker if you posess over a gram or so, and have your own paraphanelia for smoking (like a feggin bowl).

awesome statistics they make up for them selves, really. gives them a whole world of credibility.

the saddest part is, they dont need credibility...look at who they are trying to reach.
 
This report is a wake-up call for parents that marijuana is not a soft drug,"


What the definition of a "soft drug" ? are alcohol and tobacco "soft drugs" ? cause they are both much more addictive than pot and many more people seek help with quitting those drugs.. in fact there is a whole industry surrounding nicotine addiction. i guess tobacco isnt a soft drug either.. but somehow it remains legal. Hypocritical? just a little
 
the government bugs out over pot... because (heaven forbid) it alters your consciousness and makes you think!!!!!


but... they have absolutely no problem encouraging the addiction known as obesity and fast food!!!



i love america!!!!
 
it definatly doesnt "make you think," i mean its a drug, its not as bad as tobacco or alchol by far but it doesnt really make you think. The "its makes me smarter" arguement doesnt help legilization efforts in the least coming from whats his face from fast times at ridgemont high.
 
Ohhh pot makes me think allright......makes me think the SWAT team is gonna fly outta my arse!! LOL I'm all for legalization, however I don't smoke pot. I get wayyy too paranoid on it :(
 
cant help but remember half baked..."marijuana aint a drug man. i've sucked dick for cocaine. have you ever sucked dick for marijuana?"....
 
fruitfly said:
"It's a much bigger part of the addiction problem than is generally understood."

maybe because society lies to our youth about marijuana. once the kid uses marijuana they realize all the lies they've been told, which automatically makes them want to try the other drugs to test all the other lies about drugs they've been told.
also i can understand how altering your preception on a daily basis could make your mind more susesptable to addiction. just by making your body and mind used to the idea of consumming some product with the result of changing their mood.

i went to rehab for heroin like a month ago, and during my drug evaluation they told me i was addicted to cannibis, and also had a cocaine problem.
fuck rehab i was addicted to heroin not weed. and as far as a cocaine problem according to the person who evaluated me my use of coke 3-4 times a year constitutes a "problem"
wtf fuck rehab. its just like any other institution, they need a way to keep their business alive
 
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