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Stimulants Moderate amphetamine use/weight training/possible health risks?

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Aidens

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So, I was never an amphetamine guy. Thought meth and speed were for tweakers. But recently I've been experimenting with 4-FA(4-FMP) which is 4-fluoroamphetamine. I have started using it as a preworkout and study aid, and the crazy awesome fap sessions don't hurt lmao. By moderate I mean around 3 times a week at 30-40mg insufflated(I know it fucking makes me cry but I love the rush and boost from this ROA) I know this is a low dose and I don't have much of a stil tolerance but could there be long term side effects to this seemingly small amount of use? It is the greatest preworkout ever and nothing tops it, I have the greatest workout, and I can see the results already. I've been weight training for a while now but just recently started with the 4-FA usage. Not only that, but it is great as a homework/study aid which is really helping me.

I guess my question is, what do you guys think..? I had run out and was fine waiting like 2 weeks for more, but can there be problems? I know there could always be problems but I guess I'm just asking for your guys' opinions. I'm a very healthy build right now and everything else about my life is pretty healthy. Also, any possible damage to my nose from my ROA even though it's not crazy often? Thanks guys.

Also, not sure if I'm allowed to ask, is there anything similar that's not as harmful if it is harmful? I feel like the serotonergic effects might catch up to me after awhile although I haven't experienced any harsh comedowns of anything. Sometimes slight headaches?
 
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Another thought: is there any like early warning signs/symptoms of neurotoxicity..? This is my main scare, but my brain has been (seemingly) working better than ever through studying with it and such. Does anyone have experience?
 
youd be putting a lot of strain on your heart, which is already under a lot of strain when weightlifting.

you aren't an "amphetamine guy" but you're using a drug called 4-fluoroamphetamine

​okeeeee.....

you know what would top it actually?

dextroamphetamine...

 
What do you mean by top it? And lol I know, that's why the keyword in the first sentence is """WAS""". And hence my noob-esque questions.

And weirdly enough, my heart is definitely fine while weight lifting, I never go over 200 bpm while pretty much sprinting, and with an over the counter preworkout supplement I can get to 200 with ease
 
there's no real way to answer this. you could be fine doing 4-fa before workouts for a long period of time. you could develop heart palpitations tomorrow. I dont know, im not a doctor.

there's other products you can take besides quasi-illegal drugs for pre-workout stuff you know. Stuff like NO Xplode
 
That's what I'm saying. I did used to take pre workout supplements. And to be honest, the 4-FA is a much cleaner pump with little to no side effects. I tried many different ones, and some make me feel this disgusting tension in my body, shit uncontrollably, and I sweat and pant on overdrive and it just seems less healthy weirdly enough... Idk.

Even still, the low dose 4-FA has given me a much stronger pump than any other sketchy "supplement" that I have tried.
 
4FA is a shit stimulant, at least when i tried it.
I found it to not feel nearly as good as d-amp, no physical.
so the dealio is right
i'm saying you might not like amps as much as you think.
by amps i mean regular, real amps like d and methamp
if you dont want side effects, dont take amphetamines because out of all the drugs i've ever used, by far they cause the most side effects
d-amp will have your heart beating out of your chest on a good dose, which you might not find pleasurable.
that being said, i can run really fast on methamphetamine, thats relevant to this i suppose
 
LSDMDMA&AMP said:
4FA is a shit stimulant, at least when i tried it.
I found it to not feel nearly as good as d-amp, no physical.
so the dealio is right
i'm saying you might not like amps as much as you think.
by amps i mean regular, real amps like d and methamp
if you dont want side effects, dont take amphetamines because out of all the drugs i've ever used, by far they cause the most side effects
d-amp will have your heart beating out of your chest on a good dose, which you might not find pleasurable.
that being said, i can run really fast on methamphetamine, thats relevant to this i suppose
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That's what I'm saying, though. 4-FA gives me the best boost and amp to do physical activity or study or fap, whichever I choose, without any awful side effects. It's a very clean feeling I love it!
 
ah i misinterpreted your post.
i thought you were trying to go from 4-FA to d-amp/methamp
which mind you, i suggest personally.
 
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ah i misinterpreted your post.
i thought you were trying to go from 4-FA to d-amp/methamp
which mind you, i suggest personally.
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Why exactly might you say this if I may ask? Have you done 4-FA more than once? From a trusted provider?
 
once, from a trusted provider.
personally, i find d-amph to be a more functional and physical stimulant
methamph moreso than d-amph
4FA is subtle, d-amph is much more in your face.
if you want it to be.
 
LSDMDMA&AMP said:
once, from a trusted provider.
personally, i find d-amph to be a more functional and physical stimulant
methamph moreso than d-amph
4FA is subtle, d-amph is much more in your face.
if you want it to be.
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This is where my problem arises. I don't care what is more "efficient". I don't care that 4-FA is slightly subtle(even though I personally don't think it is, but that may be because I am amphetamine-naive). All I care about is harm reduction to my body. If 4-FA is subtle AND has no possible long term effects, I have no reason to try anything else. I would never NEED to try anything more in my face or physical UNLESS it produces less health risks to my body.

Dex seems interesting, but idk, I'd need to research a lot more on it. Meth I would never even think to try, let alone use it for studying or weight training. The addiction potential and long term risks do not seem appealing to me whatsoever. I know I would get addicted so I would never even try it. I know I COULD redose 4-FA for prolonged effects, but I don't WANT to, for the sole reason of addiction potentiation and tolerance buildup. Ja feel?
 
Any insight on my other questions anyone? Maybe a just as useful, very safe stim?
 
I used to use amphetamines in the 90s for the rave scene amphetamine = energy the type that gives you the ability to dance all night I suppose these new RC amphetamines are weaker than the regular base I used back then but I am in my early 40s and have to take propranolol for the rest of my life as my heart beats too fast for no reason Just be careful mate amphetamine is hard on your heart you might not feel it now but speed + exercise can cause permanent damage to that muscle that we rely on so much
 
Yes indeed. I know that all my ex-friends that took amphetamines are now fat and with heart diseases. All of them.
Actually if you start to take them for a couple of months you will get a number of pounds extra on the following.
Imagine doing that all the time..
And, regarding the brain stuff, you will get your endorphin through amphetamine now. I get it works very well.
Thing is that later on your body will need to learn to produce them and it tends to take time. Reason for which most users get depressed afterwards.
 
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tunesey said:
I used to use amphetamines in the 90s for the rave scene amphetamine = energy the type that gives you the ability to dance all night I suppose these new RC amphetamines are weaker than the regular base I used back then but I am in my early 40s and have to take propranolol for the rest of my life as my heart beats too fast for no reason Just be careful mate amphetamine is hard on your heart you might not feel it now but speed + exercise can cause permanent damage to that muscle that we rely on so much
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Wow, what kind of usage brought you to this? Can you provide a little more details?

Erikmen, you aswell, how much were your friends using?
 
Are the vascular effects really that bad? Like I said I seem completely fine when working out, not overly sweating/crazy panting/too high of BPM?
 
Anyone? It seems like these questions would have lots of info on them but idk..
 
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