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MMDA - Experienced - A Surprisingly Sobering Psychedelic

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3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine

T=00.00 140mg plugged.

T=00.15 First Alert - distinct physical 'fizz'.

T=00.30 Noticed increased clarity of vision, some intensification of colour and increased depth of vision; music (Hendrix) seemed a little more 'artificial', with instruments not integrating as well as usual.

T=00.45 Felt quite cold and suffering some minor jaw clenching.

T=01.45 Some pupil dilation (nothing like MDMA or acid), a marked increase in my tinitus and continuing increase in visual accuity.

T=02.00 Dozed off for about 10 minutes - a lot of yawning for a while - felt almost sedated. No noticeable change in cognitive ability. No inspiration to draw or paint. Very calm and reflective.

T=02.30 Went out for a walk to see if that would 'get things moving'. Other than the increased visual accuity and some kinetic activity with patterning (gridworks, manhole cover patterns, etc) little noticeable in the visual sense. At this point I also noted: 'Strong time distortion - it's an eternity - BORING!!!'.

T=02.45 Meditated: I practice 'open-eye' meditation including open-eyed visualisation, which was noticeably easier. So was my breathing with my nasal passages seeming to be scrubbed clean and breathing was easier and more relaxed, which probably fed in to the meditation. My mind was maybe a bit busier than usual (probably as a result of being on the look-out for effects of the compound), while I was very aware of an overall melancholia.

T=03.30 My wife returned and I spent the remainder of the evening sharing it with her, somewhat disappointed by any more noticeable activity (CEV's were nothing that special, by the way).

T=04.00 Smoked a small pipe of some decent grass.

T=05.00 Last puff before bed-time. Reflected on things and wrote: A surprisingly sobering psychedelic*, its solemnity being matched by its subtelness. It would be very useful in an analytical sense, I feel, as it seems to neutralise a lot of emotion - there is no euphoria or elation. It is, however, testing, in that it seems to shine a light into the Self very clearly, while being a good and True mirror.

*Interestingly, I didn't act on temptations I had to have some S-isomer Ketamine ~ there was some unspoken acceptance that this was a 'serious business' and that I shouldn't be 'thrill seeking', even at the end of the experience - as I say, 'sobering'.

T=05.30 Enabled easy transference and concentration of physical energies (Kundalini), which I found surprising (seeing how subtle the other effects were) and very special (modesty prevents me to go into further detail).

T=06.30 (Probably) Sleep

I imagine that having a decent supply of this around for a while could really help and progress my meditation. It's certainly not something I would bother searching out for 'fun', in any way whatsoever, as I had no urge to socialise at all and felt very solemn, while the urge to meditate was very strong.

Finally, my overall mood was lifted the following day and ripples from the experience affected me positively for two or three days more.

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Thanks for the report.Didn't think about plugging this one to increase mileage.Though from the description it looks this ROA didn't increase potency,but sideeffectwise,it appears cleaner in this report.Orally,it can be quite stoning and inducing nervousness,anxiety,dizziness and vertigo on the comeup,at least in 200mg doses.But this dose provides the most astonishing mind-movies,at least for a short timeframe at T+ 1.5-2.5h.Maybe this one is best in the 250-300mg range (Naranjo used it up to 350mg in a paper).
 
As you say, plugging was chosen due to the limited amount I'd been gifted. I'd certainly like to have the opportunity of trying it at higher doses - it certainly felt needed, even though the experience was a positive one. How many times have you tried it?
 
Awesome!

I have been interested in MMDA every since I read about it in PIHKAL. I hope it is available to me some day.
 
I hope it is available to more than just you, I could really use something along those lines about now
 
It was pretty much the same for me, but the second time with 180mg I did get a taste of 'the eternal now' that Naranjo described - this intensified when I added a small amount of ketamine into the mix.

A very very strange psychedelic indeed
 
That's quite reassuring to know!

From that one 'taste', I'd want to double the dose right off, coupled with some very well prepared meditation - it gave me the illusion of being a chemical lama!

I could also imagine it making a wonderful 'springboard' for the likes of ketamine (speaking from my limited experience of only the s-isomer) or Salvia Divinorum, as I have found MDMA to be for the latter - it somehow manages to loosen the 'self' sufficiently - drop its guard, as it were - so it can more easily accept the further stripping of ego.
 
I used it only 2 times so far,the first time at 160mg and I got certainly the most strange +4,some EC's/mind movies,but besides that,not that much happened.The second time was at 200mg which proved to be spectacular in the sense of looking deep,very deep into your subconscious.And the mind movies were sparkling,had more color and were of clear shape,just like raelity;plus I got short flashes of bright neon colours.

A psychedelic in its truest form.
 
Pharmacology 10 , 1973 , p.12-18

I've now put the original Pharmacology paper from Naranjo and Shulgin into a pdf file,was a bit difficult as the copy I got was almost out of bandwidth.But its one fine paper and worth the read,with all details,particularly human psychopharmacology.Those were the days,in 1973..

PM me if you want a copy (a mailadress/hush is needed to send pdf's!).
 
What a delightful duration! This is a psychedelic I'd definitely be interested in trying, in spite of having been away from the psychedelic world for a while now.
 
I wanted to ask some opinions. I've been gifted 120 mg of this as well (special thanks to: you know who you are ;)), however I'd like to get to the "brain movie" level with it.

So...perhaps augmenting this dose with 80 mg of MDA would increase the likelihood of encountering the desired headspace? I'd hate to waste what I've got on a weak experience, and I'm not confident that plugging/snorting will increase the intensity to where I want it. My theory is that the MDA will help "prime" my receptors so the MMDA can get in there and do its thang... :)

Thoughts?
 
have you tried MDA alone? It can be pretty stimulating...its certainly got a major cardiovascular push.

Its not a bad theory though thats what would happen...MDA and MDMA have a very dreamlike quality to them in the right setting.

This may have more to do with setting than anything (the apparent starkly different properties of these chemicals). MDMA can get hella dreamy and almost hallucinatory at high doses.
 
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