Misc Mitragyna speciosa (Kratom) alternatives

[Jabberwocky]

Hi all.

I have been looking into Kratom for some time now but since it's illegal in my country I have been trying to dig up info on some of the related species that might be of some interest to me.
Unfortunatey, the information regarding these are very sparse which is why I'm making this thread.

I would like to know if any of you have some experience with the following species:

Mitragyna hirsuta (Kra thum khok)

Mitragyna javanica

Combretum quadrangulare (Sakae Naa)


Obviously, the first two are in the same family as the well known Mitragyna speciosa while the last one ain't.
All of them should be comparable to Kratom in terms of effects or at least, the vendor says so.


Do anyone have some experience with these? How do they compare to Kratom?

 

[pinpoint]

What part of kratom did they ban? They sometimes will ban the alkaloids in addition to the plant itself which could prevent import if these other plants contain things like mitragynine, 7-hydroxymitragynine, mitragynine pseudoindoxyl, etc.

 

[Jabberwocky]

They banned the Mitragyna speciosa species along with Mitragynine, nothing else.

 

[when I dream]

While it looks like research into the actual effects of those "alternatives" is pretty sparse, I would not expect them to produce similar effects. If they did, I would imagine someone would have figured it out by now and they would be much more popular. I would not trust a word that this vendor tells you, their goal is only to make money. I could be wrong, but I bet these alternatives would be disappointing compared to real kratom.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Yeah, I don't trust that claim either, if I did I would already have placed an order but I made this thread instead

 

[SixString]

most kratom from headshops is a rip off. I've used a couple. One that was supposed to be more stimulating and also capsules and vials of extract.

None of them really worked that well for me.