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Misanthropy...

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winston red

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I find people to be shallow, stupid, judgemental, hypocritical and I can't say there is anything of worth in any of them (with very few exception). All the people I admire are long time dead and I only know them through their works.

Others' lack in knowledge and interest for the deeper aspects of life is annoyng me to the point that I can saldomly hold a conversation without offending the person I'm speaking to by calling it an idiot in one way or another.

I think that most of my problems come from society's lack of value rather then my own.
<snip- no violence please~Ocean>

In simpler terms - I hate people.
The question is pretty obvious: do you feel the same?
 
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I sometimes feel similarly-
Not that I want to belittle other ppl by calling them names or be rude-
I just have found that people often don't live up to my expectations.......which is why I'm trying to take expectations out of the equation when interacting with new people.

Unfortunately, at least in the US- the media really pushes that shallow, materialistic view-
I usually think, poor people......it really bothers me that people are allowing themselves to be manipulated in such a way.......


I will have more to say on this subject later when I have more time.
 
OP, I suggest you read The Misanthrope by Molière. Very interesting piece of theater.
 
Sometimes and with certain people, but I also can suffer from a closed- minded, self-involved arrogance from time to time, I expect everyone to fit in with my idea of the way things should be. I usually feel very disgruntled/miserable when that happens. So I try to challenge it whatever way seems fitting at the time.
 
How delightfully honest!

I do get irritated for similar reasons, in particular the shallow worldview that culture paints for us. I was actually feeling this way at my family gathering yesterday, I just kind of shrunk away and kept silent for most of it. I felt disconnected from them and just don't feel comfortable opening up about anything because we seem so different.

But I once had a freeing thought of how much of a gift it is to be able to take a step back and at see at least some of society's bullshit for what it is, rather than being completely caught up in it. Those who get their sense of identity and values from a shallow society can only end up feeling unsatisfied. To me it's sad to be living a blind life that is being manipulated outside forces. It may feel safer and more comfortable without questioning anything, but it's not a full life.

I try not to judge it harshly, life is bittersweet that way. There is some beauty in becoming conscious within a society whose purpose seems to be to keep you unconscious. Maybe that's just the way things need to happen.
 
I feel the same way. It's tough though, either be miserable that people are so shallow and stupid or be shallow, stupid and miserable.

On my good days I can sit back and laugh at it all without it overwhelming me. I think that is the best option for me but sometimes its hard to enjoy the moment when I've got my mind wrapped around the ills of the world.
 
If you ever want to see humanity at its ugliest, go sign up for, and play a sport with total strangers.

I'm not kidding, it's pretty brutal.
 
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Cyc said:
If you ever want to see humanity at its ugliest, go sign up for, and a sport with total strangers.

I'm not kidding, it's pretty brutal.
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What?! Sign up for a team sport with total strangers as teamates?? Join the Army?
 
Most people are idiots. Governments have planned it that way for years. I mean they feed us with all these crap on TV, on the streets, everywhere.. what can you expect of such a society?
 
People can be some real fucking assholes. Even good friends of mine can turn into major hypocritical pricks from time to time. Why do people think they need to act like assholes. I fucking hate assholes and bullies. Maybe you not a true misanthop if you appreciate the good qualities that appear in a handful of people. What if more people realized that they could live their lives and let others have basic respect. Just a simple small standard of decency would be nice. Unfortunatley it is still cool to be an asshole and like everyone else mentioned above, I do think the cocksucking government and media have a lot to do with it too.
 
unfortunately, i agree.

i think about suicide a lot because I see little hope in our society. Almost everyone I know doesn't give a shit about anything going on in the world. And most of them have zero spirituality. My family is christian and whenever I talk to them about some new thing I learned, they barely listen.

I think deep down inside, I really want our society to collapse before 2012 because I know it would lead to a happier life, even if it shortly temporary. At least it would bring my family together and would accelerate a spiritual life.
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I can get in moods where I feel the same as you, but they tend not to last very long at all. I find humanity, and its diversity to be a beautiful thing, but obviously not a perfect thing. Everyone has their flaws, everyone has some bad, and this can be frustrating, but lately I've been trying to look at those around me as they are, and accept them for what they are. Everyone is different, and everyone has a self, and while I struggle to understand exactly how some people think/operate, I realize everyone is a person, no better or worse than me. I try not to get truly upset with anyone, but sometimes, of course, I do. I just think that we are all in it together, even if someone is a self-proclaimed "loner". I feel different from those around me, but I don't think that is a bad thing at all. I wouldn't want anyone to change me, so I don't really think I have the right to "change" others. Forgiveness isn't hard for me. If I get angry, I can almost always forgive.
 
Sometimes, yes. I wouldn't go as far as to call it misanthropy, just a certain cynicism towards those people who don't seem interested or amazed at the fact of existence.

Generally though, I try and accept people without judgement; whilst ignorance can be irritating, sometimes its nice just chatting with "nomal" people.
 
i think low mood leads to cynicism alot, i dont know any happy misanthropes. If your mood improved it might decrease a good bit though likely not all.
 
^^^ I've been having this attitude since I was twelve. But then again, I was pretty sad back then too.
 
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^^^ I've been having this attitude since I was twelve. But then again, I was pretty sad back then too.
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yep, it aint a coincidence. misanthropic tendencies is sometimes used to diagnose depression just like fatigue ect.
 
I can be a pretty hardcore misanthrope...for about a half-hour at a time. Then, I realize I'm just one guy, that the world's a big place, that I can never really see from the eyes of others, and that there is a constant stream of events--some I participate in, others I merely observe--that give me new insights not only into humanity, but into my own relationship to it. I also know that however much I hate some supposed loser at a bus stop or on TV, I have far more in common with them than I do a grackle, an earthworm, a volvox, or even my cat; in a chilly universe with no proof of other intelligence (let alone benign ones), we've got nothing else to lean on but each other.

So, just for a half-hour.

Now and then.
 
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