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Mirtazepine vs. Benzo's

BC007

BC007

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Hi guys.

Anyone had much experience of mirtazepine and benzo's recreationally?
I've had alot of both. Zispin Soltab 30mg are my favourite. I know the ordinary mirtazapine 30mg tablets are the same but I just prefer the Soltabs. Probably because they act quicker or maybe it's in my head.
I like Xanax. Take 3 X 2mg Xanax and a few beers and you'll have a nice nod:)

Mirtazapine aren't benzos and according to most medical sites, they are not addictive in the way that benzos are.
I haven't had to quit mirtazapine after prolonged use but has anyone on Bluelight? Are they addictive?

I had to quit benzos for a while a few years ago and it was tough.8(

How do people think mirtazapine compares to Benzos.

I took 8 Noctamid (Lormatazepam) a few nights ago with a few beers but didn't get as much of a buzz as I expected.
I had a nice nod but not what It should have been.
 
mitrazapine recreational :?8o:sus: Whatver gave you that idea ?

As they are my prescribed meds im not gonna start fucking about with them, allthough you have put ideas in my head, I'll probably have to try it now. :\ Im on 45mg tablets, but bought loads of spares from sri lanka as my Drs are so unreliable. i'll do some furher research before i decide if im gonna do this, but i cant really see mirtazapine being in the least bit recreational. :?

Im heavily into benzos, etizolam specifically, trying to stabalise on a dose atm. But even finding that hard currently.

Mirtazapaine is meant to be a sedating and calming med. I only noticed that on day one though where i was so drowsy the day after my first pill. How many do you take for a 'buzz' ? Is it a benzo type buzz ? I dont intend to get carried away with this, they are my proper meds and i dont wanna be blowing out my tolerance to them. But might try it once or twice to see if there is any recreational potentail. Really cant see it though tbf. :\

Benzos kill unwanted thoughts in my head. Thye give me peace of mind. That alone is recreational for me. Mirt doesnt do that, at doses tried so far. ;)
 
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Mirtazapine made me suicidal from day one, and that was scripted.
I cannot imagine anyone wishing to take it recreationally :\
 
it seems to have helped me level out my moods a bit, the lows arent so low anymore, and they dont last long. Though its hard to say whether its the mirtazapine or the etizolam that is helping most. Fucking buproprion i found evil, jesus that fills me head with dark and anxious paranoid thoughts if i take it on 2 successive days, just 1 day seems to be ok. Right im gonna try to establish a better going to be and waking routine. 12mg of etiz didnt touch the sides. Fucks sake. What do i do, back on the phenergans and diphenhydramines ? Dont really want to do that. :sus:
 
I was given a Mirtazapine pill by my neighbour about a week or so ago. Not sure what strength it was.
He said to take it with a 10mg diazepam.So I did precisely that in the early evening. I can't recall feeling a buzz as such but I must have looked like I was gouching off gear.
I could hardly keep my eyes open all evening and don't recall anything I watched on TV, fell asleep fairly early and had a real good sleep off it and didn't wake till gone 10am if I remember rightly.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
mitrazapine recreational :?8o:sus: Whatver gave you that idea ?
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Me and 3 or 4 mates started taking them during the drought. We would take them and benzos to take the edge off. Anyway, we all liked them so we bought a load of them for dirt cheap. Then one of my mates was prescribed them by the doctor.
We love them with a few beers.

Im on 45mg tablets, but bought loads of spares from sri lanka
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Did you get them over the internet?? If so, they usually aren't the same strength although you can be lucky.

How many do you take for a 'buzz' ? Is it a benzo type buzz ?
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If you are use to them I'd start with 2 or 3 with a few drinks and maybe more later. See how you feel after 3 hours or so and you'll know yourself if you need more. The buzz with drink is just a forget the world and your problems monged out nod buzz. We all need that sometimes8(
 
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monstanoodle said:
Mirtazapine made me suicidal from day one, and that was scripted.
I cannot imagine anyone wishing to take it recreationally :\
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I'm sorry for you Monstanoodle, I honestly am. Obviously people with depression and other underlying problems shouldn't mess with any prescribed drugs especially if they are only trying them out at the beginning.
It goes without saying I am not encouraging anyone to go out and buy some mirtazapine in order to get a buzz.

I was merely asking other people who use it for their opinions.
Perhaps it doesn't happen as much in the UK but here in Ireland I know loads of people who buy and sell mirtazapine or are prescribed it by their GPs just as some people are prescribed benzos and others buy and sell them.

Myself and a number of my friends enjoy taking them. We treat them the same as benzos and use them the same as benzos.
I apologise if I've offended you but I'm just looking for other people who use it and their opinions
 
well i tried about 4 or 5 pills last night afrer finding that the lethal dose is exteremely high, they knocked me clean out for about 20 hours !! my sleeping pattern is totally fucked now, wil knock my self out around 11pm tonight with about 3 pills i think !!

Recreational ? i dint think so.

I crunched and shewed the pills, man did they kick in quickly, one secind i was fine, next second i had to get to bed, bareky made it before collapsing uncoscious for 20 hours. If i had kratom and stims id keep goinh through the night and tomoz but as i dont ill make today a very short day. :\
 
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It's not meant as earbashing, MDB, but I don't doubt it may feel that way at times and apologies if it does cos that is not anybody's intention I'm sure <3

I think it's more that so many of us have been following your ups and downs for a while now and can't help but notice you've been doing so much better with quitting the bupe and drastically reducing your benzo intake prior to that. You've come such a long way it just seems a shame to see you trying to get fukked on your antidepressants cos when you really need meds like that you really should not be fukkin with 'em to get a buzz. You finally found an antidepressant you get along with that is helping you - you don't want to spoil it by trying to abuse the stuff cos somebody else out there (who doesn't need them for anything beyond recreation) does so.

This is not earbashing btw, it's just trying to explain why it may seem like earbashing at times. It's cos people care <3
 
As to the original question, mirtazapine is certainly sedating and does provide a certain form of the wam and fuzzies. I don't doubt they could be recreational for some but have never thought to use them that way myself. I don't like antidepressants even when I need to take them so am buggered if I'm gonna take 'em when I don't :D
 
Was prescribed these and after reading the side effects decided to not take them. They don't seem to give good results across the board, take ages to work properly with the people who do get something from them, make you gain loads of weight, and kill your motivation. Of course this is not from personal experience, just from doing internet based research so for all I know I'm talking shit and have just been focusing on the negatives....

Never thought about taking them recreation cos they just seemed to be a bit wrong. Even with some people stating here they've been having a good time on them I'm just going to keep them to one side. If I hear enough positive feedback from people I might consider starting the daily intake of them cos even though I'm not quite as bad as I was a few months ago I still feel shit as fuck regularly.
 
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If I hear enough positive feedback from people I might consider starting the daily intake of them cos even though I'm not quite as bad as I was a few months ago I still feel shit as fuck regularly.
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I'm not gonna suggest you start taking them daily cos that's your decision but I will say they're the least worst anti-depressant of all those I've tried. I wasn't on them for very long for depression though (can't recall precisely why - was a period when I (or rather my doctor(s)) was chopping and changing meds on a frequent basis. I remember them more from my inpatient detox cos they were the only things I was given that gave any modicum of relief. Everybody on the ward got one at night and everybody else slept like babies (they were mostly alkies so mostly loaded up on Librium too, mind) but it did take the edge off, allowed for a few hours of rest if not much in the way of sleep, and even raised my mood for a while.

Of course that's not really relevant to daily use but from my relatively small experience of 'em they would likely be my antidepressant of choice if I absolutely had to pick one cos they had the least shitty side-effects (aside from weight gain which can be pretty extreme unfortunately - that may well have been why I stopped taking 'em and asked to be switched in fact cos weight gain is the last side-effect I need to be afflicted with :D) and seemed to genuinely help at least to an extent. I never got to the stage of finding out how bad the w/d is though.

There are certainly worse antidepressant options but - as with any drug - they're certainly not gonna suit everybody. Worth a try if you feel you need medication for depression.
 
cheers for the posts sam and shambles. I was kind of embarrassed yesterday,and i think a raw nerve was hit because of that, and i wanted to just grab my coat and leave as quickly as possible, holding my fingers in my ears going 'la-la-la im not listening'. Anyway one more episode in the long line of embarrasing and foolish mdb mistakes.

To any one who wants to try this as recreational: think again. Unless you consider being K.O.d for 20 hours recreation. Of course its going o be dose dependant, but as im prescribed 45mg daily anyway i didnt have a clue how many to take for 'recreation'. As others have pointed out and i was aware myself i really dont want to be fucking up my tolerance to this stuff as it may actually be helping me. Of course this applies to anyone and everryone who is prescribed mirtazapine. It is shown to be in the top 2 most effective ADs, also prescribed to treat anxiety and drug dependence. Perfect, you might have thought. It almost is, i just need a me in a parallel universe not taking any Mirtazapine as an experimental control to see if it is actually helping, but i think it is. I wont be repeating that embarrassing mistake. My worst one for quite a while. :o
 
Thanks for the information Shambles. Although I suppose it's quite vain of me, I was really put off by the weight gain aspect of them and I don't want to feel more unmotivated than I am already. I quit smoking over a year ago and that has led to my increasing lack of motivation (possibly adding to the depression) + gaining some weight and I don't want to add insult to injury. I'm currently being assessed for ADHD because it looks like my inability to get things done is leading to me being depressed and not the other way round. Even if Mirtazapine does get rid of some of my awful moods, if it just leads to me getting even less done than I am already but feeling vaguely happy about that fact, I don't think it's a path I should take.

Glad to see that it's helping people though. I'll be sure to not be so critical of it in future as up to now I'd just assumed they were one of the worst antidepressants, not one of the better ones like mydrugbuddy has stated.
 
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