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Miprocin (4-ho-mipt) - 10mg - suprising power

moracca

moracca

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This report is kind of a combined report of two people's experiences, mine and a friend's, who took the same substance on the same night.



Substance: 4-ho-mipt (miprocin)

subject 1: Me, Male, 19, 200lbs, 10mg

subject 2: Matt, Male, 18, 165lbs (estimated), 17mg



I was having second thoughts about even taking this compound on the night in question, due to some personal issues going on at the time. I opted to go for what I thought to be a very low dose, 10mg, and just see what happened from there. It turns out I was very pleasantly suprised at the potency of this chemical at such a small dose.



For approximately the first hour or so after ingesting the chemical, I was very, very laughy. I would laugh at everything, and I was in an all around good mood. I assumed this was about where it would end, and as Matt noted at around t+20 minutes, "Holy shit, that line on the door is all wavy!" my other friend who was sober suggested I take more, however I opted not to. after about the 1hr mark, however, the trip changed significantly for me. I began to see some intense mosaic/ancient aztec patterning on the wall in florescent neon colors. I was very suprised at how visual this chemical was at such a low dose. I found this chemical to be substantially more visual at 10mg than I found 4-ho-dipt to be at 27mg.



Matt's experience was much more psychedelic than mine even, as he had about 7mg more than I did. He noted that as he looked at his reflection in the window, his ears would stretch out like an elf, his smile went literally from ear to ear, and his eyebrows and eyes were raising up further than humanly possible. The entire night was spent in a mixture of amazement at the power of this chemical and elated giddyness. Other visual distortions/hallucinations included looking at the fish tank and seeing the bubbles continue to rise from the top of the fish tank up to the top of the room.



I must say that monty python has moved up to the top of my list for things to watch while tripping. While I had an excellent time the entire night, I came to a few personal revelations which have persuaded me to 'hang up the phone' when it comes to psychedelics.. for now at least. I've had a good time, but now its time for me to move on, as I've gotten what I need from them, and I have a few factors in my life that preclude regular psychedelic use, and I'd rather quit while I'm ahead than risk creating much bigger problems in my life.





Anyway, the only negative side effects were that sleep definately did not come easily, and I was basically unable to fall asleep until t+7hrs. Also, I experienced some mild to moderate chest pains during the comedown of the trip. Other than that, there were really no negative side effects, and it was a very enjoyable night.



Before trying this substance, I had read some conflicting reports about the dosage required to achieve full psychedelic effects, but after having tried it, I am glad I started low to realize really how powerfull this compound is, and that a large dose is not required to still have a wonderful night. Anyway, thanks for reading, and if you have any questions, let me know


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miprocin is one of my favorites... i don't think i would take it below 20mg though, and i'm only 150lb... everyone's different though.
 
Interesting report, and it sounds like you had a good time. Do you think you could add any more detail about the mental effects? You know, the trip, as opposed to just a few visual descriptions of it.

or was the dose too low for serious mental effects to manifest?
 
miprocin is an amazing psychedelic.
on my top 5 for sure.
on my 3rd trip with it (my first trip was with 16mg, 2nd 20mg, 3rd ~24mg) i had some of the most vivid waking dreams in which i made entity contact for the first time.

It definetly has great potential for some spirtual cleansing. IMO even more so than mushrooms (or have i just burnt myself out with shrooms? who knows?!?!)

anyway, thanks for the report and im glad u enjoyed it.
i will be trying 4 aco mipt soon (done it once before but im ready for a higher dose)
 
sure...

basically, mentally, I was in a very clear head space. Other than laughing harder than I can remember laughing in a long time, I was basically very able to keep it all together. The only notable deviations from a normal thought train is when I began to contemplate some personal issues such as my relationship with my SO, and the decisions i've been making, as as stated before, I think that it has lead me to hang up the phone. I also found myself not so much overwhelmed with the visual aspect of it, but I was certainly impressed, and spent quite a bit of time just enjoying the ride. There were a few times where Matt and I felt a bit of pent up energy, and wanted to leave and just go do something, but we still had a very nice time staying where we were. Not sure if I answered what you were asking very well, but if u have more questions, please ask! Thanks for looking
 
moracca said:
While I had an excellent time the entire night, I came to a few personal revelations which have persuaded me to 'hang up the phone' when it comes to psychedelics.. for now at least. I've had a good time, but now its time for me to move on, as I've gotten what I need from them, and I have a few factors in my life that preclude regular psychedelic use, and I'd rather quit while I'm ahead than risk creating much bigger problems in my life.
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it's very refreshing to read when someone else arrives at a similar place to where you are. i pretty much hung up the psychedelic phone a year and a bit ago, and since the majority of my acquaintances haven't, it can make for a rather solitary place.
 
I definitely feel for you.. especially with you having the added responsibility of modding this board, it must be rough. I would say my friends are about 50/50 in this regard... half of them are very supportive and think that it is a good thing and a responsible decision to be making, while the other half really can't understand it. Both halves, however, are kind enough to not give me a hard time, but I understand what you are saying. It's hard to be around those sorts of people when you've made some decisions in your life that those around you can't/won't understand/respect. Fortunately for me however, the reason I decided to quit is mainly because of my girlfriend, so while I will lose some of the relationships with ties to drugs, I feel that I am strengthening my most important relationship, and this one relationship could replace every other previous relationship and I would still be happy. :)
 
Short report, but to the point. :)

I still can't figure out people's facination with miprocin. For me, it was pretty much a mushroom trip. Little or no difference other than not having to eat the fungus. I find that a major flaw, as I'd rather just eat mushrooms (much cheaper) if I wanted that kind of experience.

My love is iprocin. I find that substance very unique, and different enough from mushrooms to make it interesting and worth my while.
 
MGS, if i remember correctly u only tried about 10mg or so of miprocin.
At that dose i can see how it would be hard to differentiate between it and mushrooms.
but at higher doses it develops its own character (as is true with many psychedelics).
i think you should give it another shot at a higher dose so u could see what all the raveing is about.

and iprocin is a good chem, really euphoric and sensual but it just doesnt offer that deep insight that miprocin does. (or maybe i just havent taken enough iprocin. i have only had 2 trips with it at ~24mg and although they were nice, they werent spectacular.
 
MGS, if i remember correctly u only tried about 10mg or so of miprocin.
At that dose i can see how it would be hard to differentiate between it and mushrooms.
but at higher doses it develops its own character (as is true with many psychedelics).
i think you should give it another shot at a higher dose so u could see what all the raveing is about.

and iprocin is a good chem, really euphoric and sensual but it just doesnt offer that deep insight that miprocin does. (or maybe i just havent taken enough iprocin. i have only had 2 trips with it at ~24mg and although they were nice, they werent spectacular.
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I tried miprocin at 13mg and 15mg. 15mg produced a very strong (but still manageable) +3. I tend to be sensitive to many of the tryptamine psychedelics and 15mg of miprocin was definitely enough for me to see what it had to offer. I don’t discount that higher levels could reveal more (I know 2C-T-7 is that way for me), but I personally would have no desire to trip any harder than what 15mg did. At that dosage, it was pretty damn strong for me.

As for iprocin, it is a finicky one. Usually it takes me 26mg to really get me to the right level, but I once did have an ass-kicking +3 from just 15mg. As far as depth…my last real iprocin experience had me flirting with a +4. I find the drug extremely ‘spiritual’ and even hold it above mushrooms. The nature almost reminds me of 5-MeO-DMT (which could be a good thing, or bad thing…depending on how 5-MeO-DMT plays in one’s head).

But there was nothing deep at all for me with miprocin. I can’t say I will never try it again, but I don’t really have much desire. I did really enjoy the related 4-AcO-MiPT and wish I had picked up more of it. And while I do not recommend anyone use drugs, do consider giving iprocin another shot. I’ve tried nearly 30 psychedelics and in the end most were enjoyable or amusing, but not much more. Iprocin is one that stands out from the bunch though in my book.
 
morninggloryseed said:
Short report, but to the point. :)

I still can't figure out people's facination with miprocin. For me, it was pretty much a mushroom trip. Little or no difference other than not having to eat the fungus. I find that a major flaw, as I'd rather just eat mushrooms (much cheaper) if I wanted that kind of experience.

My love is iprocin. I find that substance very unique, and different enough from mushrooms to make it interesting and worth my while.
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that could very well be. I've never tried mushrooms, so I can't compare them. My friend said that he liked miprocin more than mushrooms. For me, if they were exactly similar, I'd rather take miprocin, so i wouldnt have to eat the fungus :P also, mushrooms are (ironically) harder for me to obtain, and also, they are sort of seasonal by me. Either there is an overabundance of them, or there are NONE. As for being more expensive, that's probably true, but I dont do it often enough for it to be an impedence. Also, I split the cost of 250 mg with a friend, and it really wasnt too expensive when you calculate the cost per 'hit' (around $3.60 for a strong 15mg dose).

also, I think i said above, but I feel that I enjoyed this experience at a measly 10mg more than my 27mg iprocin experience. Just my opinion however, and I'm sure if I experimented with both quite a bit more, I would be able to make a more definitive judgement on them.
 
Yeah... definitely for me, any unresearched psychedelic is quite a bit cheaper than mushrooms. If you don't grow them and don't live where they grow, people tend to charge $30 for an eighth. Ouch.
 
yeah, around $30 an eigth is the going price near me also, unless you can find someone who's growing, and even then its above $20 for an eigth. :(
 
growing mushrooms is really quite simple.
if you are someone who trips on psychedelics often i would recomend doing so (its also fun)
 
I've done that once before... it really is very easy :) Almost effortless to grow cubensis aside from being careful while starting them.
 
I've thought about growing shrooms before, and if I lived in my own apartment where I could have my own space to spread out my things without fear of being discovered by those around me, I might have done it. All the same, if miprocin really is basically equivilent to shrooms, I don't see any real attraction to the shrooms themselves, but I am more inclined to believe that these two substances are special in their own ways.

edit: not to mention, I am no longer one who trips on psychedelics, so its a relatively moot point :P
 
They're not equivalent... no two psychedelics are. Although I haven't done miprocin (though I will be soon), I'm pretty sure mushrooms are a more earthy and natural, and perhaps slightly more profound state of mind. I am willing to bet that, while they are quite similar, each has its own unique properties.
 
I agree that all psychedelics are unique and should be appreciated for their uniqueness. But I can honestly say that the miprocin/psilocin relationship is uncanny....no other two psychedelics that I have tried have been so close in nature to each other as those two. I literally found more differences between 4-AcO-DET and 4-Ho-DET than I did between psilocin and miprocin.

THis is again one thing that really attracts me to iprocin (besides the fact that it produced a near +4 experience)...it is so very unique. Far more unique when compared to psilocin that either ethocin or miprocin could hope to be.
 
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