Methylone / Harmala - First Time - A nice social enhancer

[ER0X]

methylone+maoi

I'd just like to share my experience with mixing methylone and harmala.

I had a gram of methylone, me and a friend decided to try and potentiate it with an maoi so we both ingested 3tbsp of harmala seed. we waited 15-20min and we were feeling the effects of the harmala, then we each ate about 150mg of methylone.

30min later we decided to make some harmala tea for more potentiation. I boiled the seeds for 20min and we each chugged about 2-3g worth. Then we each blew about 50mg of methylone.
I was feeling the effects somewhat but it was very subtle. My friend said he felt it a little bit, this was our 1st time with the substance and neither of us had done E in atleast a year and haven't tripped on anything for about 5months. I decided to blow another 50mg and kept doing so every 20min until I hit about 350mg.

About 2hours later after finishing the last of it, I felt kinda like a had taken a good roll, however this feeling lasted no more than 45min tops, I guess I should have eaten it. The effects aren't stronger when it is insuffilated and I even tried vaporizing 20mg to see if that would kick things up a notch but nothing got noticibly stronger. It looks and tastes very much like MDMA but when snorted it is WAY easier on the nose, I had like no burn at all. Usually when I sniff molly it will feel like a blast of cold air up my nose, not too bad but it is a strong feeling, this was very easy.

I smoked a dust roach which had a very minimal amount of pcp in it, I felt a lil sumthin but not much, dust synergizes very good with E. I was trying desperatly to find some weed but had no luck.
Methylone feels just like how I've heard everyone describe it as, only I was expecting it to be stronger. It is something I could probly do all the time with no negative effects except for the fact that the shit is sooo damn expensive. If it was like 20-30 a gram it would be good. If yer looking to Roll yer nuts off this ain't the shit for you, but it is a nice social enhancer and it is a cool pleasant euphoria but nothing mind blowing by any means. No gushing serotonine rushes, just enough tweaking for it to be pleasant altho quite a bit has to be ingested. I felt like I was taking a precursor to E. No crash at all, a very benign experience.

At one point a took some nitrous hits and it was really nice for about 1.5min. Then I smoked a couple of REALLY weak dust blunts which didn't ad too much. I was chilling with my friends listening to some really good psytrance and it was nice and while the music enhancement was good it definatly wasn't great. I really wish I could have gotten some weed to see how it would effect my experience. Jaw clench was extremely minimal, eye wiggles were slight. There was no speedyness at all, it was actually quite relaxing, if I had been tired I probly could have fallen asleep.

I deem this shit "ELite" a safet*E cuz it's like E with out any of the dangers. This stuff is nice but nothing crazy at all. Just wish it was cheaper. And MAOI will not potentiate it.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Thanks for recording your data concerning methylone + MAOIs. I believe this is a first.

As far as methylone goes...set and setting is everything. First time I took it, I was at a "rave" and only experienced mild and forgettable effects. Pretty much wrote off methylone until I tried it with just my girlfriend in the desert. I had a profound +4 of incredible intensity and beauty.

So one's rating of methylone is highly dependant on where they take it, who they take it with, and when. And of course, expectations factor in. Obviously this advice goes for all psychedelics, but seems really important with methylone.

 

[Mean Girl]

Thanks for recording your data concerning methylone + MAOIs. I believe this is a first.

I was just about to say the same thing

What's your action plan for next time then? (if there is one?)

All that's missing is paragraphs and a title change, but I can fix that up in just a tick

 

[cascadia]

Thank you for the first report of its kind. I would like to know how you have concluded "it's like E with out any of the dangers". What is the basis for this?

 

[ER0X]

It just felt very benign and easy going, nothing pushy. Not much potentiation with the use of other drugs and no potentiation with maoi. It just felt like "kids stuff" to me. totally friendly in every way. I'm sure it could be dangerous but I doubt if it's anything as close to real E. There was no crash, when I was down I felt as if I hadn't touched anything at all. There was no stimulation, like I said I felt the same as I usually do except tweaked with a euphoric body high and some happiness which would come and go, I bet if I wanted to I could have surpessed the entire high, but why would I want to. The whole thing was totally agreeable with me, I could see this as a good possibility for an antidepressant type drug but that will never happen. It's good stuff but it needs be alot cheaper.

Next time I will definatly do it with someone I love, a sexual partner and at real nice setting with good music, WEED and I may try it with some trips or maybe even with E. I've heard a few negs about IAP but do to the lack of speedyness I bet the BP dangers that I've heard from people mixing iap with mdma wont be nearly as bad. who knows but it mosdef wont be until I have alot of $$$ to throw away. Maybe I'll just stick with MDMA/MDA cuz I never get a crash when I do those, infact I like the fact that it hangs over, I'm usually not one for sublte/easy going highs anyway.

 

[Leprechaun]

I wouldn't be suprised if using an MAOI may overactivate internal neurochemical processes and produce quite of a lot of 5-HT and dopamine, where the methylone can no longer vie for receptor binding.

 

[ER0X]

R U sayin it could have blocked methylone fx? That's odd, but another friend insuffilated about 200+mg and felt barely anything. So I think methylone is just really weak

 

[Morninggloryseed]

^^^^^^^^^^

In what context are you using the word "weak"? Yes, methylone is weak in potency, I usually use/need 180mg or so orally to get to where I want to be. But it is not weak in action if taken in the right set/setting. I had a very powerful +3 with it in the desert, that touched being mystical (+4) at times.

 

[ER0X]

it's weak both in potency and due to the fact that its set/setting dependant. I like a drug that will put me were I wanna be regardless, I want the drug to take over. That's why PCP and ayahuasca are my favs. They are both SOOO incredibly mindblowing/euphoric/original/powerfull.
I can take both of them anywhere/anytime/in any state of mind and I will know that a happy mystical style experience will be had. I have enjoyed the more weaker drugs on occasion, some only get you where you wanna go if you're in the right evironment like say, at a rave. But if I wanna be blasted off at a moments notice I can always depend on those to work thier magic.

 

[VictorBorge]

I've tried methylone ranging from 55mg to 200mg, and I definitely no longer think it is weak or even "mild". 200mg was an incredibly intense physical body high. I thought I would explode with the energy and, you know, "the love".

You're right in that it is not a chemical with a strong mental push. After the initial peak, which lasts only about 20-30 minutes, the empathy and euphoria are not much stronger than, say, a few glasses of wine. But the peak is amazing, and that combined witht he (compared to MDMA) mild comedown make it a very nice chemical in my book. My favorite dose is the same as MGS, 170-180mg. If it weren't so damn expensive I would be tempted to do it more often than is good for me.