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Methcathinone - First Time - Goofy Speed

Schizomanic

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The title tells all! Where to start… At the beginning? That seems like a likely place.

To begin this report de trip, let me state that (from what I’ve read ;)) the synthesis for this novel compound seems quite easy. And what do you know, the manufacturing process DOES produce a lovely “pistachio ice-cream” odor! Or so I’ve heard ;)

Ok, after the product was hypothetically chopped up to be sniffed, a friend and I decided to test the product. I had a slight idea of what the effects might be, but I had never tried methcathinone before. I expected to be let down by the experience actually, especially because of my somewhat extensive stimulant experience ( atomoxetine, a very subtle stimulant, cocaine, dextroamphetamine, methamphetamine, even caffeine etc.).

So I take a small line of ~ 20mg and so does my friend. I notice a stinging that is quite noticeably, although not painful. I also noticed a subtle effect, almost like a tiny dose of coke or insufflated Ritalin. We decide to take another line each of about 30mg, for a total of 50 mg each. This time, the burning caused our eyes to tear! The drip was quite similar to coke, my friend told me. I disagreed but the bitterness could be somewhat compared to the Columbian drug. No numbness was noticed, and neither was dry mouth J.

The effects? After a few seconds, I definitely noticed a difference in the way I perceived the world around me. After 5 minutes, I was goofing off and had a slight body high going on. Patterns were more obvious/interesting, as they are on amphetamines for me, and my friend and I were both easily entertained. We were smiling often, for no apparent reason and we were moving around a lot. I wasn’t as social as I am on speed or coke, but there was some definite chattiness, appreciation of music, and a lot of smiling for no reason. I could see myself using this to party if I’m not in a good mood (I’m trying to limit my drug use from now on) or to dance (not that I need it, but it would maybe enhance my performance if I was a little tired). Feelings of grandeur were present but not as pronounced as they are on meth, coke, or speed. My thinking was somewhat faster, but my memory was not improved, it maybe even diminished a bit I think. I can’t say much about its appetite suppression qualities except that I’m usually hungry every two hours, and it’s been 2.5 hours since I last ate and I’m still not noticeably hungry. Also, I tried this before noon so I doubt it will interfere with my sleep.

The enjoyable parts of the trip lasted about 30-40 minutes after snorting the first line, although I could still feel slight stimulation for 20-30 minutes after that.

I prepared a caffeinated beverage of my choice to ward off the upcoming crash, since I heard that it alleviates the symptoms. The comedown for me was an almost sudden desire to close my eyes and lay down for a while. At this point I decided to try the Coke I had in the fridge, so I cannot give further comedown/crash effects. Why suffer when you have the antidote? I can’t imagine the comedown being too bad, I mean before I drank the Coke I just felt a loss of energy, but maybe that was just simply dropping back to baseline, rather than crashing through and below it. Oh, and maybe a slight irritability was also noticed , which could have increased had I not drank the Coke. Or maybe the Coke had nothing to do with it? After all, it was just ONE COKE. (EDIT: after the coke wore off (yes, one coke affected me, I'm not a daily drinker) I began to feel I bit off. It was reminiscent of a mild speed come down, but just like the high, it was somehow different. I was able to shrug it off if I wanted to, and by the 12 hour mark, i felt pretty much back to my normal goofy self.)

I would describe the high as goofy speed. Or some cross between cocaine and dextroamphetamine, just not as potent. The funny thing about this drug is that you feel high, but then you kind of forget. It’s very easy to ignore the high at low doses, but maybe at higher doses it is more pronounced? It reminds me of low doses of 2c-I in that it sometimes takes concentration to feel the trip. Go figure. Compared to meth? Nowhere near the euphoria it gives. Although I can see why people who can’t get meth would want to try MCAT. I enjoyed this drug because even though speed is pretty euphoric, it can leave you too serious at times. This drug is perfect for just chilling around with friends when there is no other stimulant. Here is a crude chart to show how I rank it in the world of stimulants:

Meth>Coke>Dexamphetamine>Methcathinone>Atomoxetine>Caffeine

4th place? Not bad I say.

I decided to submit this trip report because I have not seen a single one with Methcathinone as the sole drug of misuse. The closest I’ve come across is fairynymph’s methcathinone + darvocet report, which was good BTW. I hope this report will shine some light on this baby brother of methamphetamine. It’s as if it didn’t grow up properly and it was abused as a child, lol. It’s about half as potent as dexamphetamine, even though it is the ketone equivalent of methamphetamine. Actually, if that extra oxygen was knocked off, it would actually BE methamphetamine. But how to do that, how…

That about wraps it up for this drug, but if anyone has a question, go ahead and ask, I may have omitted something ;)
 
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Schizomanic said:
I can see why people who can’t get meth would want to try CAT.

Nice report. BTW, N-methylcathinone is called MCAT. CAT is simple cathinone. I wonder if the "icecream" smell is the same smell methylone has. Methylone and methcathinone are both beta-ketones of methamphetamine and MDMA respectively.
 
Interesting, I wonder if Methylone would show up as amphetamine in a NIDA-5 drug test. I have very little knowledge of chemistry, but I do not see "amphetamine" in the full chemical name of Methylone.

Edit: MGS, I think you have these reversed. From http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=114

"Methcathinone and methylone, the beta-ketone analogues of methamphetamine and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) respectively"
 
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i would love to hear more at higher doses

scitz, empty your PM box, it is full

also, would love to hear more about the pistachio-smelling substance at higher doses.
 
Re: Re: Methcathinone - First Time - Goofy Speed

morninggloryseed said:
Nice report. BTW, N-methylcathinone is called MCAT. CAT is simple cathinone. I wonder if the "icecream" smell is the same smell methylone has. Methylone and methcathinone are both beta-ketones of methamphetamine and MDMA respectively.

You're right, i usually refer to it as MCAT, i was just taking a shortcut. Thanx, i'll correct the report.

Also, you are correct about the beta-ketone thing. No way to tell you if that smell is the same in methylone, i've never come in contact with any.

EDIT: The pleasant odor emitted during the synth is not the actual chemical itself, it is actually a byproduct of the reaction (i forgot the name, fairynymph once wrote of it) and I agree with this, since MCAT does not smell strongly of this odor.
 
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The scent you are smelling is Benzaldehyde - it smells like almonds or pistachios. It is caused by the ruinination of the ephedrine molecule. Benzaldehyde is a known carcinogen, so it's not neccesarily the best thing that you smell that.

Methcathinone itself has something of an interesting smell - some liken it to buproprion (I think very vaguely.)

It DOES smell similar to methyone..

But blah, what a crappy drug. Lets just say that the person who synthesized it gave away nearly all of it. It sucks.
 
I would like to try Methcathinone some day. It sounds interesting enough, as I find Methylone a very awesome substance.
 
it's probably not worth it pm, unless you like meth already. methcathinone appeals to meth users the same way methylone appeals to ecstasy users. other than that, and chemically, there are few similarities.
 
I definitely understand that, but I like Methamphetamine and Amphetamines, though I rarely use them. I use Amphetamines much more than Meth. I won't use Meth unless it is pharmacuetical. However, I find that Amphetamine mixed with Cannabis provides a stronger psychedelic experience than Cannabis alone. Methcathinone seems interesting to me, as I have found other stimulants interesting. However, I know that it will not be anything like Methylone. I just want to try it.
 
Haven't even heard of this. Nice report.

If I ever come across it I'll be sure to have a Coke handy.
 
The "methcathinone" I tried was nothing special. It had slight stimulation on the scale of ephedrine, a very mild euphoria and a helllot of stupidity. Seriously, this thing put me out of focus and made me extremely stupid and dumb.
 
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