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Stimulants Methamphetamine vs. pharmaceuticals. Strange redose

Renz Envy

Renz Envy

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When using vyvanse/adderall, I find it difficult to redose. It seems like redosing only extends the period of the crash and makes for a overall very unpleasant experience.

While on the flip side, methamphetamine redosing seems to not have these negative effects. The positive rewarding benefits continue, as if it lifts one out of the stimulant crash back into the evil simplicity of the meth high.

Scientific insight? Similar experiences? Disagreements?
 
<-- Similar experience. Redosing on adderall makes me feel like complete shit. Redosing on dextroamphetamine raises my blood pressure.

Redosing on Dextromethamphetamine, no problems at all.
 
Interesting. I can't say I have much to add here...but I enjoy redosing on dextroamphetamine (to a certain point)

Amphetamines are an interesting class of drugs and do very different things to different people, that's for sure.
 
I agree but the meth is "better" to redose in part because of dopamine reinforcement... And because it's fairly feindish. Doesnt feel even as bad as a big redose of adderall after a long day on it already. ugh. Never doin that sheet again
 
Well I've come up with a few theories.

1) Levoamphetamine in adderall builds up, causing an unpleasant reaction with heightened doses. (fuck that drug. Will bury all L-amp in a hole in New Mexico.)
2) The stimulant effects of methamphetamine are much more mild than regular amphetamine. While the reward effects are stronger. Serotonin may play a large part in this.


But this does not explain vyvanse/dexedrine. Perhaps there is some chemical difference I am simply overlooking here.
 
tricomb said:
its not fiendish taken orally.
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Yea this is true, but I'm assuming you are referring to pharm grade desoxyn ( lucky bastard haha im stuck with adderall...) and in my post i was referring to crystal methamp, which almost nobody takes orally, at least as their only ROA. I prefer to start a tweak sesh with a small bomb to keep me going between bowls, but thats me.
 
I just eat dextrostat like its candy... im trying for desoxyn i cant take the dextrostat although i love it and will never complain... its growing on me though more of an annoyance it still rocks my adhd tho... i just miss that spark it use to have... the massive goodness.... 7 yrs later and 140mg in less than 24 hours im just normal hahah my blood pressure was better than ever when i checked it, pulse too... i dont get it.... i mean its all lower amounts when i take it kinda these days, just a bunch of rxed doses (IR tabs) through the days and night until its time for me to go to bed so idk that could be why.... the bigger ones are harder to handle except at first, the first dose for me can be a good sized one.... if i took 60 now tho id have like palpitations or maybe thats just muscle twitches from the physical strain... idk u tell me /.... i want d-meth tho ddammmit


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it is fiendish to a smaller extent orally i cant say its not u know what i mean?
 
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Vyvanse may be harder to redose due to the metabolic time release present. It takes a bolus of stimulant in order to fend off an oncoming crash, Vyvanse certainly won't work for that purpose. The gradual buildup of d-amp in the body as opposed to IR may also increase short-term tolerance buildup as well.

Dexedrine orally is much easier to redose IME, but the peripheral effects seem to grow exponentially compared to d-meth. Adderall is even worse being a racemic blend. Don't even get me started on d-MPH/d,l-MPH. Racemic methylphenidate is too unpleasant for me to even think about redosing, while the dextroratory preparation could at least remain bearable for a little under 24 hours of repeat dosing.

I have actually binged for six days on Vyvanse alone, by the second day/third dose effects were shortened from an original 16h down to 8hr. Almost 2x my original dose was required just to stay functioning. By the fifth day, 60mg had jumped to 180mg. That didn't even phase me at the 4h mark. Of course, this is only a single report and certainly not to be taken as fact. My tolerance was low for awhile..
 
tricomb said:
It's pharmecutical pure d-methamphetamine, comes in tablets of 5mg, the "holy grail" of ADD meds.
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That'd be Desoxyn. I have the 5mg Dexies and 10mg spansules (of d-amp), it gets meh after a while, who would think the physical stim from l-amp wouyld be needed. I also can't figure out why i can have dex as an adult without my doctor filling tons of shit while with adderall xr it's cough up 130 bucks pal 8)

But yeah, with street meth pills, i remember how snorting just 1/4 would put me back up instantly, gulping 2-3 5mg dexies when already strung out will do nothing.
 
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Hiltoniano said:
Yea this is true, but I'm assuming you are referring to pharm grade desoxyn ( lucky bastard haha im stuck with adderall...) and in my post i was referring to crystal methamp, which almost nobody takes orally, at least as their only ROA. I prefer to start a tweak sesh with a small bomb to keep me going between bowls, but thats me.
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crystal meth taken orally is not fiendish.
you'll be surprised how little u need and how much longer the quantity of your CM would last.
 
dose anybody find that if you wait too long to redose on meth, it makes you feel a lot more sick and generally like shit?
 
shreddedlettuce said:
crystal meth taken orally is not fiendish.
you'll be surprised how little u need and how much longer the quantity of your CM would last.
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Well I somewhat agree but I guess I view it as fiendish bc I use other roa s that are morish. I have use only oral once but it just wasn't as euphoric. If I'm going to use a dangerous drug like methamphetamine then I mine as well get the most of it. But from an HR point of view yes it is the least addictive ROA.
 
shreddedlettuce said:
crystal meth taken orally is not fiendish.
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That's a straight up lie... when I used to take meth bombs I would always want more and more pills. It's not AS fiendish, but its still meth, and that shit fiendish no matter what.

But I redose all the time on amphetamines of all flavors, not many problems over here.... except when I binge
 
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