Methadone Withdrawl- 6 Days Clean- How Much Longer?

[ombladon]

This time is for real, I'm not taking anything having to do with narcotics. Last Wednesday was my last dose though I only took 3-5mgs methadone, on Monday was when I took my last dose (80mg-100mg).

The only thing I have been doing for the past 6 days was move from my couch to my bed. Sedated all the time, but sedated enough that I need to crawl however when I lay down I can't keep my eyes open but I can't keep them close/fall asleep either. When I do fall asleep a stomche ache always wakes me up. Today I woke up feeling a LITTLE bettter, that is why I could post here. What scared me most though was yesterday so on the 5th day I woke up and I was fucked, took a bunch of ibuprufens, and since then even now as I type I'm waring a sweater, a house/spring jacket, and another jacket on top, plus a big old hat that keep you warm (the ones if you seen the photos of people's hats in the 1989 Communist Revolution....in Romania everybody worse these type of hats. So that is what I look like.....smell like...and those are my activities.

I'm 20 now, I've used oxycodone since 13 first time a couple months. At 15 -16 I started getting heavier into 20mg, 40mg, and 80mg oxys, hydromophone (snorted), TONS of codeine, however what fucked me was fentanyl. I was taking orally then I decided to switch to smoking it, I started smoking 5mg-10mg a day for about 2-3 months...in the meanwhile codeine and hydromorphone. I withdrawled from all these drugs I mentioned but never from methadone. Fenanyl withdawl was the worst but I was smoking 5-10mg a day. So I went to the clinic MMT, right when I turned 17. Exactly 3 years and a bit I have only had 1 day without any methadone at all. I was on 205mg a day but I tapered down to 16mg....and then I decided to withdrawl.

I have benzos and some other aids, but my question is...today is 21st, I'm starting collage on September 5th plus an orientation on the 24th. I went to 2 jobs in 2 weeks, I stayed at one 3 days. The other one I never even showed up. It's hard to move, plus I know withdrawls cause lethargy but the sedative (without them I don't know what to do...stare at walls, even now I can't really watch t.v., I just listen to it more....with my eye trying to sleep but opening b/c it's hard. I sleep all day and when I don't I'm sedated as fuck (even I admit this). I don't got a job oviously, I want to get one.

Another thing that I remeber from other withdrawls (haven't w/d in 3yrs) is for about 2 weeks sometimes longer actually, there is a wierd EMPTYNES IN YOUR HEAD, in other words your head is all cloudy, cloggy....I don't know, kind of hard to think 100%. The way I describe this is "The head is clogged up with WHEAT balls". Like those huge ones in the winds in western movies on farmers ranches.




Anyways........is consider you dear friends my CLUB OF HELPERS (club de ajutoare). Please tell me when SOME of these methadone withdrawls are going away.....I at least want to stay without my 3 jackets and communist hats on even when I sleep. I went 4 days okay...relatively then on the 5th I woke up needing jackets, jackets, and more jackets.
People don't read if you go to the DARK SIDE, can you leave it here.....I'm getting there but I NEVER EVER withdrawled from methadone.

p.s. I've got the proper papers, from RX List, sites like that about the PROPER elimiation, etc of methadone (dolophine) whatever so I know about the THEORETICAL withdrawls but nothing about the PRACTICAL side of withdrawls.
On oxy for example, 3 days I layed down with a headfull of aspirin on a pill and didn't try to move....by 5th day I was ok.

 

[ombladon]

phrozen......any advice? for a brother in need?

 

[boywonder]

I've seen people go through Methadone WD's cold turkey and they were not 100% for a few months. Sounds like a lifetime I know when you are in the midst of it.

I know you said you wanted to do this with NO narcotics, but Bupe makes it so much easier. Even a fast bupe detox would be better than nothing.

Check this out: http://www.readybb.com/nama_wespeakmethadone/index.php

It's methadone advocacy forum, and it has some good info on meth detoxing.

Wish you the best.

 

[ombladon]

Day nr.8. So over a week. I feel much better physically AND mentally to tell you the truth...but I don't got a job and when I run out of weed it's kind of ugly.

Yesterday I was well enough to take a shower...having not taken one for fucking 6-7 days, imagine.
Today I feel a little better. I don't about the sleeping problems but I hope it all goes smooth.

Yeah....nothing no more to deal with the narcotics (opiates/opioids). PLUS why take the bupe if I am not in physical pain.


Look guys and girls, I was wondering if from day number 8 and on....
Will it get better or will it get worse?

 

[ombladon]

No I heard STUPID stories at the MMT clinic where some would say a girl stopped and couldn't go throught one day without JUST 1mg methadone.. That's what just for the stomach and MABYE for the coughs..it's STUPID. Junkies sit on the chairs waiting for the juice and start talking shit......

Just an example....

THANKS THOUGH!

 

[zzITCHY420zz]

of course it will get better.. i'm in a similar situation. i've been off bupe for 3 weeks, and i still get the chills/etc, but nothing too harsh. one thing thats annoyed me quite a bit is the feeling of a panic attack in a physical form, not mental (difficult to breathe ) . it will get better, trust me. i hate to say it, but i really feel better off the opiates than on them mentally, because being on them was enough to dwell on.

 

[phr]

The acute symptoms typically last around 10 days. But PAWS could last months. It's not unusual to seem "out of it" even after 4 or so months. Of course that depends on the person and lifestyle, so ymmv.

It sounds like you're doing much better than when you started.

Just don't take anymore opiates, as that will just extend the suffering. Loperamide works for diarrhea and benzo's are helpful for the anxiety and insomnia.
Make sure you stay hydrated and eat. That'll help with the malaise. Also, resuming normal activities(hobbies, work, exercise, etc) as soon as possible helps out a ton. They'll not only provide motivation and help pass the time, but they'll also keep your mind away from using.

Good luck.

 

[ombladon]

I look at my narotics use simply as a 'Honeymoon'. A LONG FUCKING HONEYMOON.......the kind of honeymoons us teenagers, poor/regular people can afford (but it's got its downfalls).

I'm on 4mg clonazepam a day...sometimes I take up to 8-10mg a day I KNOW what you mean with that panick attack type thing. I take a 2mg....I get aggitated...I take another 2mg.....upwards to 10mg lets say and I will still be like that....I don't know, breathing exercises work to tell you the truth. And a litte weed never hurt nobody (just need the $ for the smoke).

ZZ...Stop itching.....Call up your weed dealer, tell him you want 'half pound-1 pound). Get the BIGGEST knife in your kitchen....SHARPEN THAT MOTHERFUCKR so it cuts through paper. Call him over, tell him you just got your BIG paycheck...usually if he drives MAX there will be two people, take only one in the house...the garage, private. He/She pulls out the half pound- 1 pound....you take out the kitchen knife....PUT IT TO HIS TROAGHT and tell him "EVERYTIME you even WHISPER the blade goes to the throath.....till exanguenation".
Don't worry......just don't press on the throath with the sharp blade of the knife too fast/deep/quick. Just like after you fuck up a shave......HE WON'T SAY ANYTHING.


The POLICE is incompetent PLUS weed is illegal.....who's in the position to complain.


I'm waiting on a couple of frineds so I can leave this fucking house and I'm starting to get aggitated

just an idea...

 

[ombladon]

PHROZEN....Good to hear from you! I promise when I get on my feet I will set you up..Yeah EVERYTHING you said is true. EATING is very important. And resuming back to normal activities. I'm fucking broke I need a job.

 

[Nik Dynosaur]

i think the withdrawal is getting to you...

 

[ombladon]

I'm okay now....day number 10. But now the most important problem is the sleeping problems...you know how it is.

SHIT

 

[doobiesnax]

shit sucks dude...
good to hear youre getting better though


so you ever kill your dealer for a fat lb?

 

[nile420]

I've seen people go through Methadone WD's cold turkey and they were not 100% for a few months. Sounds like a lifetime I know when you are in the midst of it.

I know you said you wanted to do this with NO narcotics, but Bupe makes it so much easier. Even a fast bupe detox would be better than nothing.

Check this out: http://www.readybb.com/nama_wespeakmethadone/index.php

It's methadone advocacy forum, and it has some good info on meth detoxing.

Wish you the best.

that Methadone site really came in handy. thanks.

 

[brutus]

I didn't feel normal after going cold turkey from a 100 mg methadone a day habit for about a month.

 

[rachamim]

I was on for 17 years , between 160 and 220 mgs with last dosage being 160 (maintained, not decreased). I went Coid Turkey on July 19th (last dosage), symptoms were completely gone by day 8.5.

However, I had localised central back pain for 2 days, Restless Leg for an evening or so, general malaise throughout, and my only succor were 50 mg OTC Benadryl capsules taken in dosages of 200 mgs each, once a day, for 4 of the days.

During the first 3 days I was well enough to skn a cow and calf so it is not that bad at all.

When I went CT with morphine, I was in terrible shape ss so much for methadone being the bogeyman everyone swears it is.

Phrozen is correct that the mental effects are far worse and this is what led me to morphine maintennce.

Anyone wishing to review a play by play for those 8 days, simply read my Jounal for July 19th onward.

(Edited to change 200 to 220 mgs in the first paragraph)

 

[nile420]

I was on for 17 years , between 160 and 200 mgs with last dosage being 160 (maintained, not decreased). I went Coid Turkey on July 19th (last dosage), symptoms were completely gone by day 8.5.

However, I had localised central back pain for 2 days, Restless Leg for an evening or so, general malaise throughout, and my only succor were 50 mg OTC Benadryl capsules taken in dosages of 200 mgs each, once a day, for 4 of the days.

During the first 3 days I was well enough to skn a cow and calf so it is not that bad at all.

When I went CT with morphine, I was in terrible shape ss so much for methadone being the bogeyman everyone swears it is.

Phrozen is correct that the mental effects are far worse and this is what led me to morphine maintennce.

Anyone wishing to review a play by play for those 8 days, simply read my Jounal for July 19th onward.

I agree, the Methadone withdrawls are weak, i dropped 50mg's in 2 weeks and my withdrawls are a joke, i can still work, eat, but sleeping sucks.

other then that Methadone w/d's are pretty mild.

 

[Hana]

I went cold turkey off of 280mgs a few years ago.
I'm at 61mgs now.
I plan on going 3 days without and on the 4th day they then have to drop your dose in half..and I will do that until I am down to 5-7mgs and then I'm done..it's been 9 years.

Okay..when I stopped at 280mgs, I did a , say, 30 day percocet w/d when the percs were gone, the hell was worse, irt was hell anyways with the percs.
I was opiate free for 4 months, no methadone (only tylenol with codeine--forgot about that)
I was in worse pain after 4 months than at anytime.
I had my doc put me back on 30mgs.

YOU sound like you are doing fantastic.
Keep it up.
PAWS is incredibly hard.
That will/can last for a year or so.
Post Acute W/D Syndrome.
I wish you ALL the best..
Keep teling yourself tyou will make it.

IF you cannot do this, do go on BUP and taper off of that.
It is much lighter than methadone and MUCH easier to taper from.

Facts is, people who cold turkey it, less than 1% make it.

I am NOT trying to hurt you in any way.
I just wanted to tell you the truth honey.

Hang in there..email or PM me anytime at all.

Anytime.
You are in good hands here.

Also www.atwatchdog.org and (it was said) NAMA are great sites for you right now and for a long time.
I wish you the very, very best.
You can doi anything you really desire in your life...Life is the Longest thing you will ever do...do it well!
Peace and a BIG HUG,
Hana