Opioids Methadone - How bad will withdrawals be if I use for one month only?

[Junks]

Hi, so sorry for posting a few threads in the past few days. I am really desperate for information as my patience is wearing thin, looking at these pills every second of the day.

I am on 20 -30 mg of Oxy. I plan to take 1mg of methadone on top of my oxy now for around a month. How long will my withdrawals be from 1mg of methadone? Does methadone accumulate at this low dose?

I have done some very rough estimates, and if it does accumulate, I will have around 8mg of methadone in my system in a month when I CT...which is around 40mg of morphine or 170 -190mg of Ms Contins taken orally...does this seem correct?

I need some answers as I am really close to taking these and I have looked all over the net.

My two big fears are---gaining a massive tolerance and have months of withdrawal....is 1mg a day low enough to save me?

Opinions and advice please guys.

Thanks.

 

[Lanni]

Hey there Junks. You're question confused me a little bit so I'll ask you some questions myself but try to answer your question as best as I can in the mean time. It could take anywhere from a few weeks or a few days depending on your body weight, gender, height, tolerance, opiate abuse history. 3mg of methodone is roughly equal to about 10 mg of morphine while oxycodone and methadone are pretty much equal milligram for milligram.

How and why would you be taking 1mg of methadone ON TOP of your oxycodone habit? This will do nothing to help your withdrawal.

You will not withdraw for months after taking 1mg of methadone.

If you are trying to detox from the oxycodone you are taking I suggest stopping the oxycodone completely and then taking 30mg's, cutting down everyday by 5 mg's until you're at 0. You will not feel 100% when you come off of the methadone but a hell of a lot better than you would without having taken it. Good luck

 

[lazylazyjoe]

You will not have months of WD from a mg of methadone a day for a month. It might extend your WD a couple days, though.

Oh, and for conversions
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/564885

 

[Jesusgreen]

Taking the extra Methadone will only increase tolerance and make eventual withdrawal slightly worse. It won't have a big effect, but it certainly isn't going to have an opposite effect and make you have less withdrawals. The reason Methadone is used as a maintenance drug is not because it eliminates tolerance or withdrawals (it doesn't) - it simply is a long lasting opioid that has somewhat of a ceiling to its pleasurable effects, meaning it has less potential for abuse than say IV Heroin, and you can dose it once every day or two and keep at a steady level of opioids in your bloodstream, meaning you avoid withdrawals while on it. All it is though is you're taking another opioid to stop the withdrawals from happening, just the same as if you took some more Oxy to stop yourself from going into withdrawals. If you stop taking Methadone, you'll have withdrawals just like if you stop taking Heroin or Oxy.

If you want to reduce tolerance you need to reduce your dosage of opioids. i.e. instead of adding a dosage of another opioid on top like your idea, just reduce your dose of Oxy each day, until you feel comfortable jumping off.

If you've been on Oxy for a long time, i.e. a few months or so, or if you've ever had withdrawals in the past, then it's likely when you jump off you'll experience some withdrawals, even if you do your best to minimise your tolerance beforehand. However if you get your dose as low as possible before jumping off, then you'll have very easy to bear withdrawals that won't be too unpleasant.

Also lowering your dosage will of course help with tolerance as well, and more importantly, breaks from opioids are needed if you really want to lower your tolerance from what it is at the moment and keep it low in future. So you need to work down until you can comfortably jump off the Oxycodone, then take a few weeks off before taking any more opioids. Make sure to do this regularly, or ideally in future only take opioids once every week or two at most if you want to avoid tolerance entirely. If you're prescribed Oxycodone for pain, then I still recommend breaks - and when you do feel pain during a break that resorts in you feeling you *have* to take some Oxy, take the minimum dose you can to avoid the pain, i.e. 5mg or something - rather than going for a full recreational dose. Consuming the least amont of Oxy possible will mean the lowest tolerance possible is achieved.

 

[Junks]

Lanni, I am not using Methadone for maintenance.
Simply put, I use about 25 - 30mg of Oxy a day. I can get them consistently if I stay at this dose. If I go above 30mg, I will run out of pills and will not be able to use everyday or so, so I am stuck on 30mg. Thing is, I now have a tolerance and it does not do it for me anymore. I recently came across some Methadone. My aim is to add a little bit of methadone on top of my Oxy so I can potentiate it, and get where I want to be. I do not want to take a tolerance break yet.

Since it is my first time using methadone, I needed some advice as I have two major fears.

1) I am scared of raising my tolerance so high using methadone, that the Oxy @ 30mg will not work anymore (one day I will not be able to get methadone anymore)
2) I am also scared of the WD I have read about. The Oxy WD for me is a breeze....laughable really and it is over by the 72 hour mark and at its peak I just have a temperature and I go toilet more than usual....I am scared if methadone will turn my WD into something you guys here talk about.

So I need advice on what dose to use on top of my Oxy so i can avoid these issues. Is 1mg low enough? If 1mg does not cut it, what is the max I should go up to? Something like 2.5mg or 5mg? I am thinking maybe 2.5mg as I think 5mg may have bad WD symptoms....I need advice on this.

Anymore opinions or advice will be greatly appreciated and with me, used. I really take advice here seriously, and I am trying to respect Methadone to the max. I am trying to use the lowest dose possible, but I do not think 1mg will potentiate my oxy dose, since Methadone is the same strength as oxy (I thought it was way stronger)

Thanks.

 

[ComfortablyNumb95]

Why don't you try some other form of potentiation that won't raise your tolerance like cimetidine or benadryl/hydroxizine etc.?
I doubt 1mg of methadone will add to your high, I barely felt 10 mg without tolerance.

 

[Junks]

Why don't you try some other form of potentiation that won't raise your tolerance like cimetidine or benadryl/hydroxizine etc.?
I doubt 1mg of methadone will add to your high, I barely felt 10 mg without tolerance.

I already use potentiators (DXM, Cimetidine, Magnesium and Promethazine) each dose.

I did go ahead with my plan straight after my last post in this thread, and I have to say that there was indeed a difference. Not a large one, but noticeable enough to make my high satisfactory, but barely. It did not add to the rush really, but wow, the duration of the high was definitely way longer and it was not placebo. I took 1.25mg Methadone about 30 minutes before my 30mg Oxy dose....

I want to push it to 2.5mg

Anyone have any advice on me pushing it from 1mg to 2.5mg? Is this too high a jump, as in would it increase side effects greatly than if I just stayed at 1mg (way worse and longer withdrawal and tolerance going too high)?

The more responses the better...the last thing I want to do is all of a sudden find myself stuck on methadone and having a tolerance that not even heroin can beat, and I have NEVER tried heroin...lol would be so tragic.

 

[DrugOmen]

Your withdrawal will prob be about a week and shouldnt be much worse than what you already experience with the oxy 30 mg a day.

 

[lazylazyjoe]

This is kinda turning in to a self-serving thread.

You're going to have WD no matter what at the end. Adding small amounts of methadone ( 2mg) daily over the course of a month shouldn't dramatically alter your WD. Withdraw is bad , no matter what. Just do what you have, prepare for a week of feeling crappy, and move on.

 

[Junks]

This is kinda turning in to a self-serving thread.

You seem to have a problem with my threads. The first one, you "hated being the dick in the room" but went ahead and told me it was against BL rules, when no other Mod had even given a hint of closing it down (are you a mod? or a wannabe?) and now another one of my threads is turning into a self-serving one...sorry, I did not know all threads on BL or the internet had to be generalized and not possess any specific, individualized issues/problems.

Instead of hating to be the dick in the room, just do not enter the room at all, dick....why are you posting pointless comments that attempt to shut down my threads? What is your motive? Is it because you care so much about the rules and the greater good of BL and randoms on the internet? I think not.

I think you are a little bit jealous....does it bother you that my situation involves 1mg of methadone? I am sorry that your tolerance will never reverse and you are taking mammoth amounts of opiates. There is no need to get jealous because someone else has some sort of control over their dose and can feel 1mg of methadone or below to the point where it brings back the magic of a high.