Methadone detox imminent bit of advice please

[tjpsaint]

Hi there i put a search into google and this forum came up i knew of bluelight but now joined. I am planning to detox off methadone from 13th to 23rd of december ( i cannot wait to be free chomping at the bit for it). Now i have enough kratom to dose high for 5 days followed by a rapid 5 day taper, after that is am planning a kambo ceremony followed by a 5 days of ceremonies after going something like san pedro, mushrooms ,ayahuasca, mushrooms ,san pedro . Please note i have spent time with a shaman in peru ( i lived in latin america for 2.5/3 years the only clean time i have had in 13 years.) I am 30 years old and have been on the gear for 10 years but am very experienced with all the named plant medicines about and have used them all many many times except aya which i have done just the once. Is that enough time after detox to prevent it fucking with the ayahuasca? i have used all the others whilst having methadone and/or heroin in my system without any adverse reactions however have been told it will interfere with the ayahuasca ( there seems precious little info i can find). I would like to add i have done many many clucks in the past tho am a bit old to do it raw now hence the kratom but i know what is coming and i know how to deal with it its nothing i have not done before and i am mentally prepared for it this time not thrown in a cell or locked in a room unannounced and left to suffer. I really think the psychedelics could help, i wanted ibogaine treatment but just don't have the money for it and the uk is not interested in offering it to help people. I know from personal experience that after 5 days you are out the woods it might be a while longer before your sleeping/eating properly but its upwards after that. Can anyone offer any advice that might make this easier ? i have some quinine for the cramps as well. Again its not the withdrawals i am bothered about been playing this game a long time, its weather or not my methadone is gonna screw the ayahuasca and is 8 days long enough to have it all out my system ( usually takes 4 to 5 for me to piss clear on urinalysis ) any help advice info or support would be amazing. Much love and respect many thanks .

 

[crzydiamond]

If you take methadone daily, 8 days is nowhere near long enough to have it out of your system

How many mg do you take? What's the rush, why not taper at a slower pace? After 10 years using, the likelihood of staying clean on a fast methadone detox isn't in your favor.

I have detoxed methadone twice--once cold turkey and once slowly. Cold turkey it took about 16 days to even begin to feel slightly better, and 32 days til I felt "almost normal/ok". It is nothing like the 5 or so days of a normal opiate detox. With heroin or oxycodone it would be 5ish days. Methadone is much more drawn out in the withdrawals

For your sake I urge you to rethink your detox plan!!

 

[DIAMORPHINE1]

You don't say what dose your taking regarding methadone, or the amount and regularity in which you use heroin. Never the less mushrooms and ayahuasca aside, 10 days, i think your going to need more kratom, a hell of a lot more. When withdrawing cold turkey i'm pretty sure taking mushrooms will be a fxxking nightmare. After a decade on heroin 5 days high dosage of another opiate followed by 5 (tapering), more like months and months. Eventually after years you can look back with a clear mind and understand just how much it effects you mentally. After looking into the abyss of ones sole, it's never going to be the same again, not in a bad way, (all the time). After 10 years going through the with drawl is not the hardest part, though it it fxxking terrifying. It's trying to remember who you were before it all began.

 

[tjpsaint]

I have not used heroin in over 2 years been on a script for 2 and a half went as high as 135ml a day and a am currently taking 15ml a day dropping off a mil a day until i get to about 3 or 4 ml. The last time i did a full detox this was when i went travelling in 2008 to 2011 that time i came off 100ml off methadone raw and had my last hit of gear in the airport toilet before i boarded the plane ( part of the reason i went away was cos i didn't want to waste a small inheritance on gear so flew to brazil one way) spent two weeks on a beech in rio getting pissed drunk to detox. In the uk the methadone is 1ml to 1mg . I know from personal experience that after ten days i am getting better and have used kratom to miss days here and there without any dramas. And i get what you mean there is no way i want to trip whilst in peak withdrawals that would be just plain masochistic. I have to say that mentally i really really want off, REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT OFF and do have some great support. I have done raw withdrawals many many times with no anything just shut myself away so i know i can do it, its nothing i have not done before. I am taking ayahuasca in the for new years eve with some life long friends and want to be clean for it ( just got a hunch that methadone and aya will not mix well) . I got 3 ounches of kratom and and and ouch of 30 times extract so 4 ounches in total.The psychedelic side is all about rediscovering myself again getting back into touch with who i really am. Even now at a low dose i have started to dream again and just feel so much more alive instead of medicated. Also i am narcoleptic so will get some sleep weather i want to or not!!! Most clinical detoxes over here are 5 to 8 day affairs using either dihydrocodeine or subutex ( i hate subutex and have had very bad reactions in the past cos its not a true opiate after about 30mins after taking it i get all itchy and horrible and stressed like it throws me into a stage 5 rattle i have had this happen to mates as well even under doctor's supervision think i am allergic to it tho for some it's a wonder drug ). Again i must stress i am not a virgin at psychedelics i have used them all throughout my teenage and adult life i am not some novice. i have taken a trip probably once a week for the last ten years so know what to expect there as well. I have a theory that it may well be my answer and am willing to guinea pig it on myself i am confident in my ability to handle it and won't do it if i feel even the slightest doubt. I also have a piss test kit to check when the methadone is out my system. Again i repeat there is no way i am tripping whilst withdrawing that is madness and could be hell on earth not worth risking. Thank you for the replies guys hope you're all well