(Mescaline + DMT) - Semi-exp - Level 4 Obliteration

[Mescalizard]

Ok so I decided last night that I was done having inconsistent level 2/3 experiences with San Pedro and decided to cook up a boat load of bridgesii.

The cactus was around 1 and a half feet long and 4 inches in diameter. I prepped it in the usual way, slicing, then blending, then simmered for 4 hours with the juice from 2 lemons and then strained it through an old shirt.

I have found that if you simmer it down to a cupful, you can just hold your nose and chug it and then it's over and done with. Gag reflex did kick in but I chased it with some orange juice to keep it down and then went to kick back and wait for the ride to begin.

Now I've used mescaline regularly for a long time now but haven't ever gone beyond a level 3 experience, with the usual open and closed eye visuals, music was always amazing on it etc etc but this time I was dead set on going further, so I decided I would help it along the way......with a little DMT (seemed like a good idea at the time).

I hadn't ever done DMT before and was a little apprehensive, but I had heard great things and was keen to give it a go. So I waited until the mescaline had fully peaked (or so I thought) and then took a huge hit of DMT (50mg) from my pipe., holding it in for as long as I could.

Then in an instant everything changed.

The original plan was to take another 2 tokes, but after the first one I had no idea what the hell was going on.

It's difficult to put it into words, but I was instantly tripping more balls than I had ever tripped before, from acid or shrooms or anything! Reality was no more.

I couldn't keep a single train of thought going. As soon I tried to say something to myself, like "my name is..." in my mind, these words would turn into actual words running across my vision, before turning into sand and then blowing away.

This went on for some time,with me trying to finish any sentence I could, but each time I would forget what I was saying and why and would start all over again.

At some point, I remember my arms dissolving into my body and I felt like I was just a floating head. Then my head disappeared.

I started seeing things from two different viewpoints simultaneously, in a single image... I don't know how else to describe this. It was ridiculous.

I had pretty much no idea who I was, what I was, whether I had a body or not, and I couldn't tell whether my eyes were open or closed. I had completely lost my grip on reality.

I had also forgotten that I had headphones in which were playing music the whole time, but I couldn't tell the difference between sounds I was hearing and the things I was seeing. It was all the same.

Utter chaos.

I remember being in my living room and then suddenly teleporting up to my bedroom with no idea how I got there.

At one point I found myself trying to put clothes into my laundry hamper but had absolutely no idea why I was doing it, or even what clothes were.

I then spent about an hour trying to figure out who or what I was, but couldn't. I wondered if I was an animal of some kind. Maybe a giraffe ?

The visuals were just too complex to describe, but at times I felt I was being shot out of a cannon, sometimes forward, sometimes backwards but at a million miles per hour. Colours would erupt across my vision, before turning into a million faces, that would then melt and change into something else.

After maybe 5 hours of complete and utter madness, I had enough wits about me to start to recognise my surroundings and realise that I was an actual person again.

I then ate 2 bubble hash chocolate edibles to ride the afterglow...chocolate orange flavour... Pretty nice.

Considering I've always found mescaline to be pretty clear headed, that was without a doubt the most mind-fucked I have ever been, on anything, ever.

Jeeeezus

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[spacejunk]

The DMT lasted for 5 hours?
That sounds pretty crazy. I've smoked DMT on LSD and shroom trips, but it doesnt seem to extend the duration much beyond the usual short trip.
It always seems more intense though; the best DMT experiences i've had (where hyperspace replaces the world around me) have been on the tail end - or after the peak - of other trips.

You mention that you use mescaline/san pedro quite often - was this an unusually large san pedro dose for you?

 

[Mescalizard]

I have no idea how much of it was the DMT and how much was the Mescaline. At the point I smoked the DMT, I realised I was already tripping heavily from the cactus, but I was still pretty clear minded at that point. After the DMT I was a lunatic for 5 hours straight.

I thought I'd be able to tell when it wore off after 10 mins or so, but it just didn't seem to at all.

In terms of the cactus dose, it was the first time I've ventured past 12 inches of bridgesii, so no doubt that contributed to the bubbling cauldron previously known as my ego

 

[spacejunk]

I find the "waves" of mescaline cactus effects really interesting; i can relate to what you say when you describe the mescaline as having peaked (or so you thought).
My experiences have had similarly unpredictable peaks where i think i've reached the height of the trip and another wave comes along and the character of the high changes again.

Amazing stuff. And i tend to utilise the exact same cactus 'extraction' technique as you - boil the juice down to a cupful, hold my nose and down it, and chase with juice
I would love to do an acid/base extraction some day, but my chemistry skills are rudimentary (to say the least).

Nice report, its always good to read interesting experiences like this.

 

[Mescalizard]

Yea mescaline definitely comes in waves. Sometimes you feel almost completely clear headed and then 10 mins later the intensity jumps up and you are tripping balls.
The best thing about it is that I (usually) can still hold a sensible conversation on it and no one would even know I had taken anything.

This however was clearly not one of those times.

I dread to think what nonsense would have come out of my mouth if I'd been forced to try and converse with someone in that state.

Looking forward to a lone DMT voyage next..... Maybe I'll leave that for next weekend though

Thanks brother ?

 

[Solipsis]

Hi thanks for your wonderful trip report it sounds like it was very intense!

I've had synthetic mescaline before and DMT but not combined.. I wonder if the cactus acted in any way like a MAOI, it would explain a thing or two but it could also just be synergy and a super intense trip.
On mescaline alone, first time, I got zaps that felt like I was slipping into out of body experience states.. that grew more intense indeed a bit like waves..

But weirdly I hardly get any open eyed visuals from synthetic mesc, despite the serious visionary and OOBE aspects..

I adapted the thread title to our format standards..

 

[Mescalizard]

Yea I guess I should have waited a bit longer for the mescaline to fully peak, given it was a higher dose than usual.

I have a feeling that the DMT kicked things into overdrive and then by the time that wore off, the mescaline peaked.

Any advice on my planned DMT voyage?

I usually trip solo every time, would you recommend a sitter? Planning on a breakthrough.

 

[Ethyl_Acetate]

The cactus was around 1 and a half feet long and 4 inches in diameter.

This is a solid amount of Bridgesii, especially if it turns out to be rather potent (as it proved to be). This will get me to a solid +++ without anything else. DMT, while peaking on mesc, is beautiful. For me, about 10-15 mg is enough to synergize great, abut anything over that and the DMT takes over (definitely not necessarily bad). However, 50 mg of DMT by itself is enough for me to completely blast off. I'm a little surprised that it lasted that long - I always come down in 6-10 mins when I blast off during my mesc trips. Sure, I feel pretty tripped out for a little bit since the impossible just happened, but I'm always down from the DMT within 30 mins. Hopefully you were able to enjoy the remaining 5 hours of intense psychedelia during your trip!

I had also forgotten that I had headphones in which were playing music the whole time, but I couldn't tell the difference between sounds I was hearing and the things I was seeing. It was all the same.

I've had the same thing to happen to me, on lower doses/sub "breakthrough" the music playing through the headphones can awaken me into the new space, sorta similar to a lucid dream, but if enough DMT is smoked it all becomes one.

And i tend to utilise the exact same cactus 'extraction' technique as you - boil the juice down to a cupful, hold my nose and down it, and chase with juice
I would love to do an acid/base extraction some day, but my chemistry skills are rudimentary (to say the least).

I've prepped my fair share of cactus, and IMO this tek is the best - most efficient, you get all the mesc + whatever else is in there, no chemicals needed too! I've had a lot of A/B and tea, and the tea (after purging if need be) has an *exceptional* body high that the A/B lacks. I just feel so good from like t+2 to t+12 after a nice tea.

But weirdly I hardly get any open eyed visuals from synthetic mesc, despite the serious visionary and OOBE aspects..

Same here. I read so much about synthetic vs. extracted and then when the opportunity presented itself I was so excited...only to find (for me at least) it was identical to A/B extracted, and I much preferred some nice Bridgesii tea.

Any advice on my planned DMT voyage?

I usually trip solo every time, would you recommend a sitter? Planning on a breakthrough.

If you are in a good set and setting, and you are prepared for whatever happens in that weird DMT world, then go for it. Sitters can be great - if they are respectful of when you will be in the DMT void (like not being super loud talking on the phone etc.) then go for it. It sometimes helps to have someone to talk to about the experience right afterwards - so much super weird stuff goes down and then when you finally come down it's like "...wat...". I really like solo though, just you and your mind, and some DMT, endless possibilities...

 

[Cliffy78]

That shit was hilarious!!! Thx for posting this, I lmao, I've felt a lot of that same stuff, it felt like a mescaline flashback u described it so well lol.,,