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theotherside
Ex-Bluelighter
A simple search in our wonderful search engine would give you WAY more info on mephedrone than you need.
StereoLogic
Bluelighter
Don't be a douche. He asked for advice, so give it to him. If we all used the search function there would be like 20 threads, and we wouldnt need you to be a mod.
I'm sorry that I'm not experienced with it, but erowid has a lot of information and this is what I can tell you.
4-Methylmethcathinone is a synthetic stimulant with empathogenic effects that is chemically similar to methcathinone. Between 2007 and 2009, it became available for purchase online, was used increasingly in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand, associated with several deaths, and then controlled in some countries as a result. Because of the similarity in names, it is sometimes confused with 'Methedrone' (4-methoxymethcathinone) or 'Methylone' (bk-MDMA).
At least two deaths in Scandinavia have been speculatively linked to "mephedrone" (4-methylmethcathinone) in the last fourteen months. 4-methylmethcathinone is similar in structure to cathinone (found in the Catha edulis plant) and methcathinone, both Schedule I chemicals in the United States. Its effects have been likened to cocaine, MDMA, and amphetamines, and it can elicit compulsive redosing in some users.
Negative effects related to 4-methylmethcathinone use that have appeared in online reports include skin rashes, numbness, headache, short-term memory effects and minor amnesia. A puzzling range of symptoms linked to heavier 4-methylmethcathinone doses have been reported in at least two cases. An account submitted to the Erowid Experience Report Vaults in December 2008 described skin discoloration, light-headedness, cramping and aches suggestive of strong vascular or allergic effects following a cumulative dose of 1.8 grams ingested over 20 hours. The person was hospitalized and monitored. Low-level symptoms persisted after the acute effects passed.
In May 2009, a description of similar effects, at a third of the dose and time (600 mg over 6 hours), was reported to Drugs-Forum. In this account as well, low-level symptoms persisted after the acute effects passed.
People reporting such effects are encouraged to consult a medical professional. Written accounts should give as much pertinent detail as possible when describing symptoms, including dose and timing data, whether other substances, medicines or supplements were ingested, and how recently and how much the person slept. Updates on the status of symptoms over days, weeks or months may be helpful for the development of measures to improve safety and protect users.
I do believe there is a report done by Alexander Shulgin as well. I couldn't find it with a 5 second google search, so I'll leave you to find it.
I'm sorry that I'm not experienced with it, but erowid has a lot of information and this is what I can tell you.
4-Methylmethcathinone is a synthetic stimulant with empathogenic effects that is chemically similar to methcathinone. Between 2007 and 2009, it became available for purchase online, was used increasingly in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand, associated with several deaths, and then controlled in some countries as a result. Because of the similarity in names, it is sometimes confused with 'Methedrone' (4-methoxymethcathinone) or 'Methylone' (bk-MDMA).
At least two deaths in Scandinavia have been speculatively linked to "mephedrone" (4-methylmethcathinone) in the last fourteen months. 4-methylmethcathinone is similar in structure to cathinone (found in the Catha edulis plant) and methcathinone, both Schedule I chemicals in the United States. Its effects have been likened to cocaine, MDMA, and amphetamines, and it can elicit compulsive redosing in some users.
Negative effects related to 4-methylmethcathinone use that have appeared in online reports include skin rashes, numbness, headache, short-term memory effects and minor amnesia. A puzzling range of symptoms linked to heavier 4-methylmethcathinone doses have been reported in at least two cases. An account submitted to the Erowid Experience Report Vaults in December 2008 described skin discoloration, light-headedness, cramping and aches suggestive of strong vascular or allergic effects following a cumulative dose of 1.8 grams ingested over 20 hours. The person was hospitalized and monitored. Low-level symptoms persisted after the acute effects passed.
In May 2009, a description of similar effects, at a third of the dose and time (600 mg over 6 hours), was reported to Drugs-Forum. In this account as well, low-level symptoms persisted after the acute effects passed.
People reporting such effects are encouraged to consult a medical professional. Written accounts should give as much pertinent detail as possible when describing symptoms, including dose and timing data, whether other substances, medicines or supplements were ingested, and how recently and how much the person slept. Updates on the status of symptoms over days, weeks or months may be helpful for the development of measures to improve safety and protect users.
I do believe there is a report done by Alexander Shulgin as well. I couldn't find it with a 5 second google search, so I'll leave you to find it.
1NRG
Greenlighter
Personally i find it a more physical stimulation,rather than a mindblowing mdma euphoria . Which i personally don't like. But it's very strong as a stimulant.
As for harm reduction. My advice would be don't snort it.... slightly fishy drip... not good.
As for harm reduction. My advice would be don't snort it.... slightly fishy drip... not good.
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1NRG
Greenlighter
No, it's my lack of communication skills.
Anyway, i meant you get the drug mixed with saliva sliding down your throat and it tastes like fish.
I don't mind the "drip" off coke though, or ket.
urbandictionaries definition (i hate these retards sometimes... im referring to the quote)
XTCAKE
Bluelighter
Mephedrone is a research chemical, and there is still not much information readily available about it's long term effects, unfortunately.
I have tried mephedrone, it was in powdered form.
I have tried MDMA aka Molly, it was in powdered form.
Both of these drugs could be (and probably were) cut with some sort of other drug and/or filler. So, to answer your question, no one can REALLY tell you which one is "safer". There's really no way of knowing
One saying that one of these drugs is "safer" than the other is pure opinion.
I have tried mephedrone, it was in powdered form.
I have tried MDMA aka Molly, it was in powdered form.
Both of these drugs could be (and probably were) cut with some sort of other drug and/or filler. So, to answer your question, no one can REALLY tell you which one is "safer". There's really no way of knowing
One saying that one of these drugs is "safer" than the other is pure opinion.
specmiata99
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Jester-Race
Bluelighter
Since when does mephedrone have any relevance to the chemical makeup of MDMA whatsoever? Doesn't this go to other drugs forums?
Thanks mods!
Thanks mods!
phatass
Bluelighter
nobody really knows the long term effects of mephedrone as it is such a recent compound...
kazatello
Greenlighter
everything you do now has a major play on what happens in the future, like drinking too much and eating too many fries, only time will tell but if you ask me everything in moderation should keep us happy and healthy, unless the goverment are planning on banning chocolate too cos it's way too enjoyable to be legal :D