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I'm in a mental hospital for a disease that has been with me for my entire life. For that amount of time I have never been any problem until I got in a fight with my father. Now that I am committed I am going to be on medication for the rest of my entire life.

I cant have this!

There must be something I can do that is legal. It's been two months and no signs of leaving and I'm becoming agitated and less easy to cooperate.

This is a common thing to consider when in here and so I'm wondering what other avenues of approach I might be able to use.
 
You can contact NAMI if you are in the U.S. They can help you with advocacy as well as information.
 
I'm living in ontario canada. Services are run by the government so not as much is here
 
Can involuntary patients leave the hospital on their own?
No – an involuntary patient cannot leave the hospital unless their doctor discharges them (lets them go) permanently or on extended leave, or changes their status to voluntary. If they want to leave the hospital and their doctor won’t discharge them, they (or someone acting for them) can ask a panel of the Mental Health Review Board (the Board) to review the decision (panels and reviews are explained in the next section). The Board is independent of government in making its decisions.

Some involuntary patients leave the hospital on extended leave and still have involuntary outpatient treatment that the hospital director authorizes. These patients have the right to periodic hearings by a panel – as if they had stayed in the hospital as involuntary patients.

How do reviews work?
Involuntary patients have the right to have a Board panel review their hospitalization – after they are involuntarily admitted and after each renewal of their hospitalization. It’s not automatic – they (or someone acting for them) have to ask for it. To do that, the patient (or someone acting for them) must complete an application form available on the Board website (www.mentalhealthreviewboard.gov.bc.ca), at the Board office (call 604.524.7220), and at the hospital.

A panel of three people (a medical doctor, a lawyer, and a person who is not a doctor or lawyer) performs the review. The panel must hold a hearing within 14 to 28 days after the Board receives the application, depending on how long the person is being hospitalized for. A patient has the right to have a lawyer, friend, or advocate speak for them.

The panel decides whether the hospital should keep or release the patient. A patient can apply to court for judicial review of the panel’s decision. A patient can also bypass a review hearing and go directly to court. In both cases, the procedures are complicated, so they’ll need a lawyer.

Source - http://www.cba.org/bc/public_media/health/425.aspx
 
Hold on buddy

Hey man hold in there, I was in the same situation and it really takes a toll on you. The best thing you can do is keep calm as hell and show them (doctors) you are ready to leave. It's a frustrating process but try to hint you would like more privileges, and to work on discharge. Please keep us updated, I know how difficult and bullshit it can be.. I'm in Ontario Canada btw
 
Oh and

Oh and you won't be on meds forever man, I decided to take their meds to show I can cooperate. Now I am not on any meds and never plan to get back on them. Your situation may be different, but state the facts calmly that you've been there for two months, and are willing to take medication so you will be 'stabilized' in society again. You may cringe having to say things you don't entirely believe, but it got me out.
 
^Congratulations on that, unregistereddude. I hope the OP can resolve something soon. Psyche wards and hospitals are miserable places.
 
ive yet to be commited to a psyche ward, so have no real input on this subject, other than ive dealt with swinging emotions often resulting in extreme frustration and anger... i understad how your feelings of "agitation" and being less willing to co-operate and how those can escalate into bigger problems (maybe not ur case but was for me). Speaking out of personal experience all i can really say is try and stay positive and just be open to whatever theyre trying for you. if you have to take meds for a bit for some freedom then so be it. i hope you can resolve this soon, hospitals alone r droory places...
 
metnal_case_101 said:
I'm in a mental hospital for a disease that has been with me for my entire life. For that amount of time I have never been any problem until I got in a fight with my father. Now that I am committed I am going to be on medication for the rest of my entire life.

I cant have this!

There must be something I can do that is legal. It's been two months and no signs of leaving and I'm becoming agitated and less easy to cooperate.

This is a common thing to consider when in here and so I'm wondering what other avenues of approach I might be able to use.
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I hate mental instutions with a passion. If you are not crazy going in, you most likely are going out. A fight with your father did this? All normal people disagree and fight sometime, why should you need medication for this? Isn't there any chance you can at least fake taking it, just put the pills in your mouth, hide them between your cheek and gums then dispose of them where they are never seen again. Or do they test if you take the meds by UA or other means?

Seriously, if the white coats were to come get me one more time, I think I'd get my shotgun.
 
Make your bed. Don't make a fuss. Go to any activities. Your main goal is to get out, the only evidence they have to go on is that you're showing order. Unless you're in America then it depends how much they can suck from your insurance.
 
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Yup just play their little game. Be a tool for a little bit and you'll get free. I'm a nutter too so I know the score buddy. Yes sir, no sir. Yessiree just become the greatest actor this worlds ever seen!!! You can do it I'm sure...
Take the bullshit zombie meds and make them super comfortable, even if you do want to eat their eyeballs in a nice face feature stew ;) hang in there brother, were all pulling for you!!!
 
The object of the game is to get well. If you're in there, you're most likely in there for a good reason. Try to get well. And no hostility!

Good Luck.
 
weekend addiction said:
Just take their meds. Smile and nod. Play the game and you'll be out in no time. I've been in a mental hospital more times than you can count. I always got out. :D
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That's pretty much what you got to do if you can't convince them right away that your sane enough to be let go. I was in jail once and got sent over to the psych ward for evaluation right after getting off the docket. I spent 5 hours waiting and dreading being locked up in the godforsaken shithole while i was waiting for the good doc to asses me only to tell me to get out and go home after 5 minutes of talking to me. Psych wards are scary fucking places and id rather go to jail anyday then one of those hell holes.
 
any updates on your status buddy! i am actually quite partial to a stay in a mental hospital. i find them quite very interesting places. although i have not been emitted for over 16 months now. i really enjoyed my last session.
 
hmm not sure of the laws there. I assume you are not English speaking? I mean solely based on the spelling of consent -- it's nonconsent not nonconcent. I am Canadian too by birth but it's true your laws are vastly different. Are you under 18?

Not sure how this turned out for you but I was going to suggest you get what you need out of whatever program it is, and then you can decide for yourself -- don't let yourself feel forced into anything as this is ridiculous and does not work.
 
Ho-Chi-Minh said:
The object of the game is to get well. If you're in there, you're most likely in there for a good reason. Try to get well. And no hostility!

Good Luck.
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This.

In the UK, if you are on a Psychiatric ward involuntarily, it is called a Section. You can't leave until the Doctor deems you fit to do so and you are usually only sectioned if you are deemed a danger to yourself or others. There is no real way around this. I'm guessing it would be partially similar in Canada.

In essence, just cooperate, you're there for a reason. The reason being to get better. It may suck, it may suck being on medication, but they wouldn't be doing this on a whim. I'd highly suggest you ignore the idiots who tell you to, "play the game". It isn't a game and I hope you realise that, hard truths man.

Wishing you a speedy recovery man.
 
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