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Men like women with no makeup? WAT??

Lysis

Lysis

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This is kinda spun from the Lounge, but I thought it was a (semi) good SLR topic.

Some of the guys mentioned liking women who don't wear makeup, but I find that a farce. Any woman (celebrity, porn star, etc) that a man posts as "beautiful" has makeup on. You certainly don't find men posting pics of celebrities caught without makeup, in their sweats and their hair a mess as a "hot" pic of them. I find it disingenuous that men claim to like women with no makeup when in fact they might not even know if the woman is wearing makeup when they approach her. I'm not talking about the caked on look...I'm talking about subtle, stylish makeup. A little powder, mascara and lip gloss (that's what I wear) can mean me looking like a million bucks and me looking like a worn out drug addict. It does wonders for us.

Now, that isn't to say after the guy gets to know a girl and loves her personality that she is beautiful to him even first thing in the morning. I've had those moments too, but those initial moments where attraction is important, makeup is a part of the "beautiful woman" persona that men are looking for and (maybe) don't realize they are attracted to.

Any thoughts?
 
I've never beeen big into makeup. When I used to work at a big office, I used the foundation, eyeliner, eyeshadow and mascara. Not a bunch but enough to make me look like myself. One day, I was getting ready for work and got interrupted by my son for something. So I found myself running late. I went to work and caught a couple people looking at me strangely. Nobody said anything. At lunchtime, I was in the bathroom and had a look at myself. I did one eye and didn't get around to the other! (only shadow-no eyeliner or mascara) That was kinda funny.

But these guys who are not into makeup are most likely looking at women's breasts first and foremost. Does that make sense?
 
ha! Yes, T.Calderone. You could be right. I don't wear a lot of makeup on weekends or if I'm running on an errand, but I definitely get more attention with makeup than without. And when I don't wear it people comment on my freckles. LOL I hate freckles.
 
Yeah I agree with you Lysis. I think when they say that they usually mean they don't like it when women have their faces completely lathered in make-up but in most cases I'm sure they'd rather there was something...I never actually wear make-up but I'm 200% sure if I did I'd get more attention. Btw I'm sure your freckles are lovely! :D
 
I'd wadger most women wear some sort of make up daily (doesn't have to be much), so the odds of pictures being taken with the women having make up on is going to be naturally higher. Not to mention a lot of these pictures are not only skewed by the added make up, but also the image editing in programs like photoshop. Trying to prove your point using the fact that people post pictures of women wearing make up hardly supports your belief.

Also, I know I'm not alone when I say that I love nothing more than a chick in a hoodie and sweats. I don't know how often this comes up in conversations with my male friends, but it happens ALOT.

I don't know why so many women want to find any reason to validate their use of cosmetic products... It drives me nuts.

I'm going to drive this home with the statement, I don't like it when women wear make up.
 
^^ LOL You just don't know they are wearing it.

Trying to prove your point using the fact that people post pictures of women wearing make up hardly supports your belief.
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WAT??? So, the fact that men post their "hot" pictures and post up the porn star calendars in their private space doesn't prove my point? WAT??? Who is the illogical one now?
 
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^^ LOL You just don't know they are wearing it.

that is a big assumption. I'm not even going to bother writing a more elaborate post on this when you make snide remarks like this

WAT??? So, the fact that men post their "hot" pictures and post up the porn star calendars in their private space doesn't prove my point? WAT??? Who is the illogical one now?
Did you not bother to read the rest of the paragraph?
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Not matter what people say, its impossible to prove other wise. I disagree with your view, like many other men will, yet I like you can not post anything that will be of much substance to support my own view.
 
Well, think of it this way my friend, when I have friends (men or female) at least I don't betray them by sharing private information. You might hate me for my views, but they are accurate instead of drug-fueled idealism.
 
I think most men simply prefer less makeup than more. Women who try to obscure their facial imperfections with bizarre chemical admixtures (the application of which presumably consumes a substantial proportion of their day-to-day lives) do not, on that basis, sexually endear themselves to me IRL. I cannot stress the final acronym enough - fapping to pictures of air-brushed porn stars and retaining a realistic sexual preference for women who don't wear much makeup hardly smacks of doublethink.

By extension, Lysis, do you believe that everyone who watches BDSM porn would enjoy administering/receiving such treatment in real life? It looks like a pretty a slippery slope to me.
 
By extension, Lysis, do you believe that everyone who watches BDSM porn would enjoy administering/receiving such treatment in real life?
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Depends. Are we talking watches it regularly or watches it once and says "ok, one is enough."? Regularly, yes, once and that's it? No.

fapping to pictures of air-brushed porn stars and retaining a realistic sexual preference for women who don't wear much makeup hardly smacks of doublethink.
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Completely disagree.
 
Lysis said:
Well, think of it this way my friend, when I have friends (men or female) at least I don't betray them by sharing private information. You might hate me for my views, but they are accurate instead of drug-fueled idealism.
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Private information? wtf are you talking about

Also, I was on no drugs posting the comments I made. (the heroin I took today was taken well before I made any comments in this thread, or any other thread tonight).
 
Depends. Are we talking watches it regularly or watches it once and says "ok, one is enough."? Regularly, yes, once and that's it? No.
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Okay, but you must see what I mean re. the slippery slope: How about rape porn? Child porn? Don't you see the problem with your reasoning here? I suspect that most people who watch pornographic films depicting men or women as degraded victims of sadistic sexual exploitation are not necessarily liable to engage in such activity IRL, nor would they view such activity as morally acceptable. Perhaps you are of a different persuasion.

[My point being that people's taste in pornography does not exhibit a 1:1 correspondence with their sexual preferences IRL.]
 
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I suspect that most people who watch pornographic films depicting men or women as degraded victims of sadistic sexual exploitation are not necessarily liable to engage in such activity IRL
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I disagree. Again, once out of curiosity? That's nothing. Regularly? I would say that is indicative of someone trying to visualize and see their fantasies without telling anyone. It's not like you can openly say "I LIKE RAPE PORN" to people, therefore, you get it regularly from underground.

I would not date anyone who regularly watched such things.
 
I disagree. Again, once out of curiosity? That's nothing. Regularly? I would say that is indicative of someone trying to visualize and see their fantasies without telling anyone. It's not like you can openly say "I LIKE RAPE PORN" to people, therefore, you get it regularly from underground.

I would not date anyone who regularly watched such things.
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But that's the not the point that's being discussed. This isn't about who you would or would not date based upon what porno they prefer to watch (which is entirely up to you) - it's about whether or not there exists a clear symmetry between someone's choice of pornographic/idealized sexual images and their real-world romantic preferences. It seems to me that your opinion on the matter is a tad heavy-handed, and, what's more, is in conflict with the current psychological consensus (or, rather, the general lack thereof) on the subject.

If you're interested in the actual relationship between pornography and real-world sexual behavior and attitudes, this might be a good place to start. The article focuses predominately on the intersection between consumption of pornography and sexual violence, but I think it serves as a fine case in point for the broader appeal I'm trying to make on behalf of all men who sincerely do not want a photoshopped porcelain doll-faced model for a sexual partner. You seem to be thinking about the relation between these two disparate-but-sometimes-overlapping elements of sexual identity in a simplistic and unrealistic way. Women who have rape fantasies don't usually want to be raped. Men who have fantasies of sexual humiliation don't necessarily want to be sexually humiliated by their partner(s). Are these really such controversial things to say?
 
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1.) Honestly, I just like women who look comfortable in their own skin. Whether this involves makeup or not is not wholly secondary.
2.) In a related vein, makeup is just one part of what makes any woman I'm interested in attractive; it's also clothes, poise, overall body language, and of course the topics and flow of conversation.

In short, saying makeup is crucial to women getting attention from men is akin to saying men wearing suits is crucial to attention from women. Sure, it helps, but is it a deal-breaker if it doesn't materialize?
 
I know exactly what you're saying Lysis, and I agree.
That little bit of makeup, many guys don't really know it's on. In my opinion, that's the goal of everyday makeup. To make it accentuate your looks, but not be obvious that you're wearing anything. Meaning, a bit of coverup and mascara, maybe some eyeliner. But not a lot. And many guys will think that is "no makeup" when, in fact, it is makeup. And it still takes time.
My boyfriend loves me when I'm at home in sweats and literally no makeup and my hair up in a ponytail. But it's when I take like 10 minutes to put on a layer of eyeliner, brush out my hair, and put on something a little bit nicer that is much more appealing.

Especially celebrities and stuff, they are probably air brushed to the max anyway when you see their pics. And their "without makeup" pics are definitely still with some makeup.
I'm not saying girls can't be beautiful without makeup. I really do wear no makeup some days and still get looks. But that 5-10 minutes, a little bit of makeup, for most girls - that DOES make a difference, and some people will consider that "no makeup".

There is definitely such thing as "too much" makeup. Unless you're out clubbing or something, I like to go with "less is more". When I'm out clubbing, I have super bright eyeshadow on, but I consider that kind of thing an exception. It's more just for fun anyway.
But having concealer or coverup just caked on your face, super thick lines of eyeliner, and quadruple layers of mascara. And all that stuff. That does seem a bit too much for daily wear, at least for me. There is definitely such thing as "too much". But there is an in between. It's not "too much makeup" vs "no makeup". That in between is usually the sweet spot!
 
There are different things that turn me on in a woman. Sometimes, I like that she looks made up and hot. Other times, I like that she looks bare and human. It really depends on the situation. In the dark, I can barely see her at all, but she looks absolutely enchanting.
 
It varies at times for me. Sometimes I do indeed like what the make-up does. At others, I do not, or rather, I like an aesthetic that is sans make-up. Example. I think my friend Nova is fucking delicious. She's a a Captain in the RCAF. I've seen her with make-up. I've seen without, when I KNOW she is without (i.e. an exercise where we've been humping a ruck in the woods for 3 weeks) Sometimes, I find the second aesthetic to be more pleasing, and would find the addition of even subtle make-up to reduce the magnitude of the measure in the dimension "cuteness".

Same with Ms.G at times, I usually LOVE her make-up work. BUUT, I have a thing for really pale skin and light pink lips. She has both these properties. Any make-up she adds tends to reduce the magnitude of those physical quantities. As such, at times, I would prefer she refrained from using those products.

re:porn etc. So, as should be self-evident to anyone who reads my posts, I am hella into BDSM. I watch the porn, and I enjoy the acts, in the physical sense. I do not generally however like the scripts/fantasy presented, namely the attempts to portray lack of consent, actual harm, or genuine degradation or lack of love/affection between the people involved. I like doing the physical acts, but with consent, no actual harm and done out of genuine affection/love between the parties partaking. As such, I think P A's point (as usual) is valid and sound.
 
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