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Melbourne's Scene - BACK TO THE UNDERGROUND?

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Decimal Dan

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It seems our scene here in Melbourne is slowly heading back towards the underground. I personally think this is a great thing. The last thing that we want is for raves and dance parties to become mainstream.
Here's a couple of things that show that this is happening:
1. Earthcore have decided that they are not going to do the "mass promotion" thing anymore. ie. posters on poles. They are getting back to basics (word of mouth, etc.)
2. The Docks will soon be dead. As much as we all loved the docks in the past, they are now the stage of those large, mass promoted parties aimed at crowds of 10,000+
From what I have learnt about Sydney's scene, it also went through the stage of becoming "popular" and "mainstream", and it is now back underground. Hopefully this is the path Melbourne will follow.
And to all those who say that DJ's won't want to play at underground parties - well that's their loss. Take Chris Liberator for example. He PREFERS playing underground parties, and I'm sure that a lot of other internationals would be in the same boat. (Apart from your Paul Van Dyke's and your Oakenfolds. But who gives a shit about them anyway?) Almost every international that passes through Melbourne wants to play at Teriyaki. Why? Coz its an underground club that fucken RAWKS! And the DJs are aware of this...
I'm hoping that the big promotion companies such as Future, Agent Mad and Hardware will follow the lead of Earthcore and quit their mass-marketing of the rave scene in Melbourne. No matter how much they try and deny it, it is just a mad grab for cash...
Peace, and all that
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...the currency man.
 
We can only hope my friend, we can only hope.
Fuck the docks and their bullshit, 10,000 people, hands in the air, pass me my glowstick, wanna buy a E parties.
 
Dan -> Get back under that rock....through the underground tunnel, around the gumtree roots, under the billabong tree.. and back up again through to the 'Non-Mainstream Event' party! Yeeee-haaaa!!!
I'm wiff ya's...
Less commercialism, more honest-to-goodness vibes...and less commercial crap music...
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A psychedelic person is not a good citizen..not a good ANYTHING..That is defined by somebody else.
 
I thought Earthcore don't put up posters on poles anymore because they were prosecuted for it? I remember reading something about this, or perhaps I am wrong.
I agree, Chris Liberator is the man! You should see their free squat parties that the London acid folks put on over in London. I've seen some photo's and they look like a seriously good time!
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As much as I would love to agree that the scene is heading back underground I dont think thats a reality quite yet. Especially in Sydney, IMO I think the word is spreading that underground is "cool" and more and more people (that I beleive just dont even deserve to be there) are showing up at u/g techno, psy and breaks events.
The biggest reason for noting this is the rather large attendee numbers we are starting to get at our sydney doofs. 1000+ people were at Earthdance alot more than expected (which is good, dont get me wrong) but I just feel it looses that intimacy and closeness that I love with doofing. Being part of a sub-culture that you love and watching masses of people start attending these events, that really have no idea or no real passion for it really upsets me, I dunno call me selfish but the further underground the better as far as im concerned.
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Bom Shankar!
 
i spose there mite end up being like...2 sets of "rave scenes"......the people who really do love the scene will get the word of mouth part-ee's going again....so there will be the undeground type of thing happening again.......and then there will still be the high priced highly promoted chachingggg $$$ its cool how im here..scene..going on........And mabey they will separate from each other and turn into 2 completly separate scenes.........which will be better for all of us
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Dan - how do you know that Earthcore have decided this non-posters-on-poles thing? Correct me if I'm wrong but almost every fourth person is an earthcore promoter this summer and the posters can be seen everywhere.
Never before have they been this big on promotion of the parties ..
 
earthcore simply decided not to post on polls because it looks nasty and its illegal, but thats as far as it goes. Underground you say? As mikey said: Posters in every second store, bundles or fliers everywhere, an ad in the Age (yes...thats right!)
This will be the biggest earthcore ever.
But dan, I hear what you are saying, and totally agree. Underground is the way to go. I was talking to Ferris about doing a regular underground thing at the carpark in punt road. Some lights, nu talent and an up-for-it crowd could make for a wicked party!
 
Mikey and The Hoovemeister: I haven't seen a single Earthcore poster on a poll. Sure, I've seen them in the shops, but not on polls. I've seen plenty of Hardware ones though!
I read an article about Earthcore in Zebra. They were crapping on about how they aren't doing posters anymore.
Then again, I guesss you should never believe anything you read...
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i agree with ADZ... i think there may be a subtle split...which is gooodd.
however..think about this....
*oh i dont necessarily think this*
it could be good that more people become involved in the "scene" so more can be happy in all things that are fun..ie: parties..???
REMEMBER..noone here was always a madass "raver"..we have all come from other scenes..ect ect..u get my drift..
alas...i know all the counter arguments...but cannot be bothered presenting them..im sure u guys will.
oh and waves hands in agreeance with the regular yarra underground party..
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and more vibe parties like Frantic and Forbidden Freelands...these are good pure fun..and entirely non commercial...
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Thats mad and shit, not to much promotion and stuff like that but what about the people who don't know connections and stuff like that. The people who wouldn't be able to find out about it????
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Well i took an earthcore poster off a pole as a souvenier a cpl of weeks ago. So they definalty are putting them up on poles, thats for sure.
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I think we will know that the scene has gone underground when the DIY ethic becomes ubiquitious(sp?). That is when there is an 'unauthorised' party on almost every week by anyone who just wants to listen to music, party and create a vibe.
 
Not sure about melbourne but the sydney city council tried to pass a bill to make postering illegal, it was rejected though (4 months ago)
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Bom Shankar!
 
Lime green fashions are too mainstream and the people who are really into the lime green 'scene' have developed their own lime green fashion style and look down their noses at commercial lime green clothing?
...No? Not what you were talking about fataliss? Damn...
 
I thought about writting a big long post but I hate doing that.
the lime green thing, you know everything moves in cyles, in and out of style, lime green fashion, when it was all the shops had, it didn't suit everyone but b/c it was everywhere and practically the only thing around, everyone had it.....
The sydney scene hasn't gone underground...everyone one knows its there and how to find it they're just not interested anymore or maybe I should say its not fashionable or the variety now is greater so the masses have split, just like if you want it you can still find lime green shit
no longer are the sheep being herded only to the sounds of techno and trance, a few other shepards are on the loose and poaching from the flock
its all about the green baby!!
(good try Tars
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I started a similar thread on the meetups forum a while back....
I agree with adz, basically you will have you mainstram, big ass promoters pushing shitloads of internationals and running big parties that cop all the media attention, thus bringing in more 'weekend raver's ' who read in the paper how the scene (if u can call it one) is all about people doing drugs and thats it.
Then there will be your underground crews dedicated to providing people with good music, and a good vibe to do that music justice. I tell you know, i'd much prefer to play at a party where people appreciated my music because they felt it was good, rather than play at a massive warehouse party where the majority of people there only like music like mine while they are on drugs.
Thats just me though....
And yes, the scene is goign more underground to an extent, but how do you define underground.....
Anyway, i'll just end by saying im looking forward to a great summer full of many underground parties......keep an eye out for them people!
 
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