Harm Reduction Med combination

[closeau]

Hey there. I was wondering, has anyone tried Salvia? I saw it on another website and thought I might try it. I could use a nice, mellow trp to leave this world for a bit. Im not seeking anything too strong, you know? Just mellow and this 10x seems to be the one. Im on Methadone 10mg 4x a day. Im also on Zoloft and Buspar for depression and anxiety. I know, I know, I shouldnt trip on anything while on this stuff. Well, what if I do anyway. What HR could yall offer? The Methadone is losing its effectivness cause my body gets used to it in a month and I only see my pain Dr every 2.5 months. Uuuurgh. I smoke a little bit of cannabis in the morning and at night for pain and relaxation purposes. I figured Salvia would be good on a stormy saturday or something. Does anyone have experience with this and if so, what would be a good staring dose for a mellow trip? Thanks for the input!

 

[sekio]

I could use a nice, mellow trp to leave this world for a bit. Im not seeking anything too strong, you know? Just mellow

Salvia is anything but mellow, it's much closer to getting hit over the head with a lead pipe. Smoked salvia extracts doubly so. They make massive bong rips seem like drinking decaf green tea. If you're expecting a nice mellow trip you should try anything except salvia.

Most of the time it's all or nothing - either take enough to get a full blown 15 minute trip or you'll just feel uncomfortable for a while. That said, a dose would be anywhere from 100mg to 250mg depending on personal physiology.

I suggest you read Erowid for more information. They've got a huge archive of trip reports you should read. The good news is that Salvia acts through a relatively unique mechanism and it shouldn't interfere with your other meds like e.g. acid or mushrooms would.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Methadone won't give you any problems. Neither should the zoloft or buspar. I know that regarding Zoloft from personal experience (same with the methadone). Buspar I don't really know, but from what I've read about the drug I see no reason for concern. The only concern I would have is that salvia can be an EXTREMELY powerful drug.

You might want to go over to psychedelic drug discussion forum with this question. Search erowid to see other trip reports on salvia. Basically, as much as you can pack in your bowl - and I'd use a water bong or bubbler, as you want to get as large a single hit as possible.

Just be careful. If you have strong depression or anxiety, the powerful effect of salvia could potentially really fuck with your head/medical condition. Still though, as someone who has had depression and anxiety and used salvia on said medications, I wouldn't be too concerned.

That being said, I HATE salvia. There is a strong chance you won't like it in the least, although who knows...

EDIT: damn you sekio... funny how we more or less give the same advice. great minds think alike. then again, I was kinda encouraging the user to get as much out of the salvia, as you put it to go all out... happy mind fuck OP!

getting hit on the head with a pipe is about right tho - that's basically what happened when I tried some purported 40x. Like, I basically blacked out. 10x, even 5x, should be enough for a first time experience. possibly it'll be more than enough if you hit the pipe correctly (i.e. big hit, held as long as possible)

OP - If you want a mellow experience you might want to use it sublingually, like in quid or tincture form. That's the only way I've ever experienced anything approach a "mellow" trip with salvia.

 

[sekio]

That being said, I HATE salvia

Most everyone I've talked to shares this sentiment. Either they think it's terrible (re: lead pipe over the cranium) or that it's merely a "neutral" pysychedelic that lacks any definite euphoric push.

I think it's just because it's so damn confusing.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Right. For five minutes it more or less felt like someone jammed a pencil under my bottom lip, I couldn't speak, although I desperately tried, and I had ZERO motor control. And that was with 20x if I remember correctly. Not fun.

Then again, my friends who introduced me to it loved it. It made one of them hallucinate that each of her fingers were people. These finger people would talk with her.

With the tincture I actually kind of enjoyed it, but for some reason I never was able to experience a high nearly as powerful to be considered "psychedelic." The tincture was good, and my method of dosing was proper. I think it just isn't what I was expecting from it (i.e. something more like shrooms or dmt, which it certainly is NOT like in tincture, let alone smoked, form)

 

[Captain.Heroin]

You won't have a mild experience with salvia unless you're very careful to dose extremely low, or put an even lower dosage on top of some cannabis.

If you dose high enough, you'll for sure leave the world for 15 to 20 minutes.

Have you browsed the Psychedelic Drugs forum?

 

[closeau]

Thanks guys. I just got some to experiment. It was pretty cheap and well see. I got 1 gram of 5x. Ill put a little in my bowl with some kush and see what happens. I have a safe place here at home with hdtv, ipod, and mandolin, haha. Ive tripped on everything in my past but its been awhile. I will be careful and am getting ready to go over to other index. Thanks for the HR guys. I appreciate it!!

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Thanks guys. I just got some to experiment. It was pretty cheap and well see. I got 1 gram of 5x. Ill put a little in my bowl with some kush and see what happens. I have a safe place here at home with hdtv, ipod, and mandolin, haha. Ive tripped on everything in my past but its been awhile. I will be careful and am getting ready to go over to other index. Thanks for the HR guys. I appreciate it!!

Salvia is best smoked out of a bong with water filtration. You have to hold in the smoke for a long time.