MDMA therapeutic use

[Red Dragonfly]

Since childhood I'm suffering from intrusive thoughts and obsessions. I maybe have some form av OCD while never diagnosed. I've tried CBT but the effect of it didn't really last.
Reading about MDMA therapy makes me curious about taking MDMA once in order to try to relieve this problem. Though I haven't access to do it clinically with a professional therapist it would be at home alone, using strategies I've learnt from a self help book after exposing myself for the thoughts.
Does this sound like a bad or a good idea? Any advises if it could be worth trying? I also wonder if 72 mg sounds like a too small dose for this project, cause this is what I have left from my last MDMA session. My sweet spot recreational dose is 100-120 mg.

My biggest worry about trying this is to defile the free zone that MDMA is for me, by letting my anxiety enter it.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Well yeah I've found molly helping me with OCPD, so there is that.

I've just talked with my trip company. I have done few rolls on my own too. I have never tried meditation or any structured exercise.

 

[maoriwarrior]

I can't advise you, but can only say that from my own long term (almost 20 years) moderate use, it's been good for me. Good luck I hope you find what you are looking for, therapy wise.

 

[Red Dragonfly]

Thank you for your answers. Does someone have any opinion on dosing for this purpose? Recreational with friends I would prefer around 120 mg. When I tried around 70 mg at a rave once, I just felt relaxed and went in a light mood that lasted for some days. So maybe that dose would be better for therapeutic purpose? I don't want to waste a whole dose on being alone at home, if not neccessary. But does full therapeutic potential urge a full dose maybe?

 

[maoriwarrior]

Thank you for your answers. Does someone have any opinion on dosing for this purpose? Recreational with friends I would prefer around 120 mg. When I tried around 70 mg at a rave once, I just felt relaxed and went in a light mood that lasted for some days. So maybe that dose would be better for therapeutic purpose? I don't want to waste a whole dose on being alone at home, if not neccessary. But does full therapeutic potential urge a full dose maybe?

I think dose is largely body-weight dependant, so for me at 230lbs a gentle dose (my normal dose) is around 120mgs. If 70mg had a nice relaxing effect for you then I'd start there.

 

[Phobos]

Since childhood I'm suffering from intrusive thoughts and obsessions. I maybe have some form av OCD while never diagnosed. I've tried KBT but the effect of it didn't really last.
Reading about MDMA therapy makes me curious about taking MDMA once in order to try to relieve this problem. Though I haven't access to do it clinically with a professional therapist it would be at home alone, using strategies I've learnt from a self help book after exposing myself for the thoughts.
Does this sound like a bad or a good idea? Any advises if it could be worth trying? I also wonder if 72 mg sounds like a too small dose for this project, cause this is what I have left from my last MDMA session. My sweet spot recreational dose is 100-120 mg.

My biggest worry about trying this is to defile the free zone that MDMA is for me, by letting my anxiety enter it.

I think there is good potential.
It is an experiment worth doing, my advice would be to not have any expectations for your first few experiences, you'd basically be trying things out in order to define a method or protocol for using MDMA therapeutically on your own.
I advice you to take notes with timestamps throughout the experience so you can later evaluate what happens at what stage.

I also advice you to buy a quantity that will allow you to have multiple experiments all from the same bag, so you will be 100% sure that the purity will always be the same throughout a number of experiences.

Take care of optimising your nutrition before and during the sessions, finding which room of your house is ideal, if you should be listening to music and if so, which music, how loud, is headphones or loudspeakers better, etc?
Also find out which clothes will be ideal, should you take a warm shower as you come up, do you want aromas in the room? Should you sit down, lie down, have your eyes open or closed? Should you stay in the dark, have a coloured light, or just normal light?

Basically work at establishing a routine/ritual that will be conducive to you being productive in your sessions.

In regards to your worries about feeling anxiety while on MDMA while you are on a self therapy session, I think that it is mostly up to how much MDMA you take.
MDMA has a marked anti anxiety effect that can be felt even with a mild dose, so make sure that you have taken enough to suppress it but not too much in the sense that it becomes harder to focus on a specific train of thought.

IME I would advise against taking other drugs together with MDMA, even alcohol and/or weed as I think they diminish the therapeutic potential of MDMA.
An exception to this would be if you are a daily user of something and by not taking it you would somehow not feel right.
In that case take the minimum dose that you think would make you feel ok.

Please don't hesitate to ask any more questions and also please update us on how your sessions go, I think it would be useful for both you and the community.