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Methqueen

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1. I've never tried snorting crystal MDMA but I'm trying to switch up the rolling experience. How well does insufflation work as a booster?

For example I want to drop 120mg oral dose and later snort lines to control the intensity of the trip. Your personal experience would be welcome.

I could not find a general consensus about the dose size when consuming internasally, as a booster. All I know is that the effects should last a shorter time. Also, I don't mind the "spicy" sensations in my nose.

Since the effects last shorter with this roa can you redose more than once(like mephedrone)? For example: 50+50mg. Is that reasonable or should I go for a single bigger redose(no idea how much)? My goal is to prolong the experience but not by eating the booster.

2. I've done M twice with a female friend but she has found the experiences "scary" and "uncomfortable". She can deal with the nausea and purging, but the uncomfortable feeling is mostly physical. We discussed that set and setting weren't the culprit. That's not the typical reaction I've found people have for MDMA. She took 150mg one time and 140 the other. I feel like she hasn't felt the true magic of this substance yet.

Could these be too big doses?
I'm thinking 110mg for the next roll.
 
Methqueen said:
1. I've never tried snorting crystal MDMA but I'm trying to switch up the rolling experience. How well does insufflation work as a booster?

For example I want to drop 120mg oral dose and later snort lines to control the intensity of the trip. Your personal experience would be welcome.

I could not find a general consensus about the dose size when consuming internasally, as a booster. All I know is that the effects should last a shorter time. Also, I don't mind the "spicy" sensations in my nose.

Since the effects last shorter with this roa can you redose more than once(like mephedrone)? For example: 50+50mg. Is that reasonable or should I go for a single bigger redose(no idea how much)? My goal is to prolong the experience but not by eating the booster.

2. I've done M twice with a female friend but she has found the experiences "scary" and "uncomfortable". She can deal with the nausea and purging, but the uncomfortable feeling is mostly physical. We discussed that set and setting weren't the culprit. That's not the typical reaction I've found people have for MDMA. She took 150mg one time and 140 the other. I feel like she hasn't felt the true magic of this substance yet.

Could these be too big doses?
I'm thinking 110mg for the next roll.
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In my opinion, insufflation is a bit of a waste when it comes to MDMA. My preferred method for a booster is boofing/rectal ROA instead if you are looking for something other than oral that hits the system quickly.

With that said, myself and a lot of other users are starting to go away from the booster dose since it normally results in more negative side effects without substantially increasing the roll. Usually the first dose is more than sufficient to dump all or most of the serotonin you have in reserve.

If you do decide on an insufflated/rectal dose for a booster a good rule of thumb is that half of the normal oral dose will be more than sufficient to experience the same/similar affects.

As far as dosing, 150-140 is most likely too high. my partner is ~50kg and 120mg is usually her preferred dose.

Please note: This 120mg dose is slightly higher than what is recommended (100mg dose is whats calculated using dosage recommendations). However, my partner has ADHD treated with Amphetamine, which has brought her tolerance up slightly.
 
I would agree with above comments. For a first time 100mg is pretty typical, and after an 90min if everything is going good, maybe a small redose.

Insufflating sucks for MDMA. It stings (not terribly), seems to have same potency, and while duration might be slightly shorter, the effects are more jittery. Oral or boof is the way to go with MDxx.
 
I would start off with a dose of 100mg. of MDMA and then only go up by 50mg. of MDMA for the second dose.
 
Very often, the intensity of an MD(M)A experience will be determined by the initial dose, and further doses serve best as boosters instead of adding intensity, if that makes sense. I've met people like your friend who find MDMA uncomfortable, they often also dislike oral methamphetamine, I suspect that these more "heavy duty amphetamines" are just a bit much for some people. I used to refer to that demographic as "methylonists", as almost always when I'd encounter somebody who adored methylone they would mention that MDMA made them feel like your friend did. If your friend ever wants to try MDMA again, try 30-60mg. If that works well, then maybe try upwards towards 80-90mg.

I have ranged 30mg-600mg doses before and found there to be almost completely diminished returns above 200mg (220 lb bodyweight). My fiancee is 150 lbs and he blacked out once off an accidental dose of 700mg of MDMA, he was saying a lot of gibberish, and he eventually poured onion powder on the wet paint of a lilypad he was painting on a canvas/easel in our living room while in a state of MDMA delirium. The onion powder was applied "for texture", when he was questioned in the moment. We crack up about it to this day, but in retrospect it was extremely dangerous and we're lucky that things turned out fine. Neither of the two of us have ever experienced an MDMA come-down either, for some reason.

If you want to switch up the rolling experience, I would suggest the combination of a serotonergic psychedelic, salvia, dissociative, and despite their allegedly 'contradictory' actions and assuming you don't have an addictive personality, I've loved mixing 60-90mg of MDMA alongside benzodiazepines and carisoprodol before. Carisoprodol has been anecdotally noticed by myself and those around me to amplify the fuck out of serotonin agonists, and we were nervous it would do so here, too, but it didn't seem to. My best rolls have always included psychedelics and/or dissociatives, things such as 2C-B, LSD, allylescaline, 3-MeO-PCP, 3-HO-PCP, CanKet (2-FXE, 2-Fl-O-PCE, 2-Fuoroeticyclidone, whatever people recognize it as), and ketamine have all been great alongside MDA and MDMA in my experiences.
 
Methqueen said:
1. I've never tried snorting crystal MDMA but I'm trying to switch up the rolling experience. How well does insufflation work as a booster?

For example I want to drop 120mg oral dose and later snort lines to control the intensity of the trip. Your personal experience would be welcome.

I could not find a general consensus about the dose size when consuming internasally, as a booster. All I know is that the effects should last a shorter time. Also, I don't mind the "spicy" sensations in my nose.

Since the effects last shorter with this roa can you redose more than once(like mephedrone)? For example: 50+50mg. Is that reasonable or should I go for a single bigger redose(no idea how much)? My goal is to prolong the experience but not by eating the booster.

2. I've done M twice with a female friend but she has found the experiences "scary" and "uncomfortable". She can deal with the nausea and purging, but the uncomfortable feeling is mostly physical. We discussed that set and setting weren't the culprit. That's not the typical reaction I've found people have for MDMA. She took 150mg one time and 140 the other. I feel like she hasn't felt the true magic of this substance yet.

Could these be too big doses?
I'm thinking 110mg for the next roll.
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My GF always insisted she take just as much as me. Well females are lucky they need less MDMA for the same effect.
So my ex was more hardcore as me. Don t know at what ratio but lets assume they need 1/4 to 1/3 less.

My advise on snorting it as booster. Not my preference, did try it. its more like painfull speed then like a oral booster dose.
YMMV, but afaik its ment for oral use, just works/ feels best. Save yourself the sting of pain, and dissapointment.
as it more like Speed then MDMA that way, ime.
 
IIRC first pass metabolism leads to higher amounts of the desirable metabolite MDA which improves the high, making oral the preferred ROA. I personally haven't tried others but anecdotals reports seem to confirm this.
 
Mjäll said:
IIRC first pass metabolism leads to higher amounts of the desirable metabolite MDA which improves the high, making oral the preferred ROA. I personally haven't tried others but anecdotals reports seem to confirm this.
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Never do this, but yeah if you take lots of [oral] MDMA it gets very MDA-ish.

Only had MDA two times, unknown adultrant, my guess didn't have it proper tested. A mix MDMA/ MDA.
Remember one time i did know, Rolling Stones two presses green and blue with a white core and tongue logo/ scored.
They were a perfect mix but i took to less a 1/2. but att time i was a🐔.
One o my friends took a whole one and spend the night in his car.
While me and my more experienced other friend [also took at least 1 likely a lot more].
Where on a tekno party, he had a great time in his car he said.
So it must have been good.

Btw does your friend use Caffeine. Or are they maybe a adultrant in your pills ?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3492978/
Once read caffeine also enhances MDMA s BioAvailability. But never found the scientific paper back.
So might be my imagination, but in the US lots of MDMA was cut with caffeine and/ or Meth-Amphetamine.
Check pill reports. And they are are hard to seperate but i am uneducated or under.
 
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Methqueen said:
1. I've never tried snorting crystal MDMA but I'm trying to switch up the rolling experience. How well does insufflation work as a booster?

For example I want to drop 120mg oral dose and later snort lines to control the intensity of the trip. Your personal experience would be welcome.

I could not find a general consensus about the dose size when consuming internasally, as a booster. All I know is that the effects should last a shorter time. Also, I don't mind the "spicy" sensations in my nose.

Since the effects last shorter with this roa can you redose more than once(like mephedrone)? For example: 50+50mg. Is that reasonable or should I go for a single bigger redose(no idea how much)? My goal is to prolong the experience but not by eating the booster.

2. I've done M twice with a female friend but she has found the experiences "scary" and "uncomfortable". She can deal with the nausea and purging, but the uncomfortable feeling is mostly physical. We discussed that set and setting weren't the culprit. That's not the typical reaction I've found people have for MDMA. She took 150mg one time and 140 the other. I feel like she hasn't felt the true magic of this substance yet.

Could these be too big doses?
I'm thinking 110mg for the next roll.
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Snorting is not recommended with MDMA or any empathogen. Im from experience isn't either . oral ideally is best. Had never plugged

Empathogens need to be done infrequently and the initial dose is what is best. From re dosing experience, one will comeup again, but the first dose is where it's at

120 mgs is plenty of your not abusing empathogens. All sniffing does it make it a bit more ish and intense, the taste, drain was nice on triple stack ecstacy pills but with that being of the past ,powder and breaking of crystals, it more like an intense short lived speed at this dose nah

If taking enough time between rolls 100 mgs would be fine for her. Many great options here, I liked their posts, all good stuff in them. Yeah she was probably overwhelmed on the comeup. I be been many times. CBD, not THC cannabis is recommended.

Done THC maybe twenty times on comeup and made the experience no way is clear thinking as nothing or with CBD cannabis 0.3 or lower THC, which causes bit of relaxation. A pipe is best one puff or two is enough then wait for a while then maybe another.

Too much CBD causes a airheaded feeling with the other cannabinoids,esp higher indica ones. I know some will say CBD is only sativa but from testing both eighty percent sativa CBD and fifty or sixty percent sativa, along with the other cannabinoids profiles, in that strain, there's a difference and it's felt
 
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There was some speculation I read on Reddit about CBDs potential to decrease neurotoxicity by inhibiting particularly CYP3A4 and decreasing metabolization to MDA. However, research on CBDs effects to liver enzymes is not complete so I guess that it is best to slowly explore how it affects the roll.
 
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