stardragon
Bluelighter
The subjects: Myself (~125 lbs) and fiancé (~150 lbs).
The scene: His bedroom, last Friday night. No other people present. MP3 playlist betrays that we're trance whores
. Assorted toys, mostly glowing things, but also things like massage oil.
The substance: supposedly, pure MDMA powder, which we weighed, capped, and took orally with water (see below for dosage progression).
We didn't test beforehand (don't hit), but were going on the vouch of a friend who had taken from this batch and pronounced it very good indeed. No other substances were used, and no pre-loads were taken. Neither of us is taking any medication. Our last roll was mid-February, on similar dosage (see below), but was a different batch from a different supplier.
The scale used was later shown to be less than perfectly accurate, thus I can't be sure of exact dosage. I estimate 75-90 mg taken at 10:30 pm, another 75-90 at 11:30-11:45, and another 25-50 at 12:30-12:45.
First noticeable effect at around 11:30-11:45, slight tingling in extremities.
No real "peak", but effects were strongest around 12:45-1:00. Well into comedown by 2:30 (sudden, yet gentle - if that makes any sense? It was like "hey, wait a sec, I'm not rolling anymore", but since the effects weren't intense, it wasn't a "crash").
Essentially baseline (except for pupil dilation and other assorted aftereffects) by 3:00.
Effects were very mellow in general. Some eye-jiggling, and noticeable leg shaking when trying to stand, but no visuals, and very little "touchy-feely" effect; senses were moderately enhanced (Irish whiskey tastes very good - we just had a sip, so it wasn't the alcohol killing things). Very low empathic effect and "happy happy joy joy, everything is great" feeling. I had no jaw-clenching, but this is generally rare for me anyway; fiance had some minor teeth chattering and clenching. No nausea at onset, either; I normally feel slightly nauseous, like I wanna lie down for five or ten minutes while it passes, and this had no effect whatsoever. Fiance was able to maintain an erection and ejaculate; orgasm is usually out of the question, and he can't keep an erection after about an hour into the peak.
Overall, very unusual roll, or lack thereof. Normal effect for us is onset at about 30 mins, a very nice peak at ~1 hr which lasts about 3 hours - not "balls to the wall," but fairly hard, then a gradual comedown of 1-2 hours, with plenty of "everything is beautiful" and touchy-feely throughout.
The possible causes we thought of:
1. Insufficient nutrition/rest that day and days prior.
2. Assorted mental set effects, with possible physiological effects on brain chem - we were both pretty psyched, but the previous week had been hell for both of us; too focused on wanting it to be as good as the last time.
3. Something amiss with the substance itself: weak (for whatever reason) MDMA; cut with something; actually MDEA (though I didn't feel "stoned" or "dopey" at all, just not really "rolling").
4. Normal effect of maintaining a lower dose (over a period of time) as opposed to taking a higher dose at outset. (However, I don't believe this total dose to have been much, if at all, different from our last time, and the spread is similar - last time was estimate max 100mg at 10:30 and another 100mg at 12:45. The possible variation here is if the caps we had last time were actually like 150mg apiece - we didn't weigh them ourselves, they were pre-capped - but they seemed too small for that, based on the ones we made this time, and I rather doubt it.)
5. God DOES play dice with the universe; every time is different, who knows what may have caused it this time, maybe next time we'll roll balls from the same stuff, and I should shut up and not worry about it, as I myself have been heard to say.
Any comments?
[title edited -mash]
also note: above questions probably need to be deleted.
[ 25 August 2002: Message edited by: masheadatronic ]
The scene: His bedroom, last Friday night. No other people present. MP3 playlist betrays that we're trance whores
The substance: supposedly, pure MDMA powder, which we weighed, capped, and took orally with water (see below for dosage progression).
We didn't test beforehand (don't hit), but were going on the vouch of a friend who had taken from this batch and pronounced it very good indeed. No other substances were used, and no pre-loads were taken. Neither of us is taking any medication. Our last roll was mid-February, on similar dosage (see below), but was a different batch from a different supplier.
The scale used was later shown to be less than perfectly accurate, thus I can't be sure of exact dosage. I estimate 75-90 mg taken at 10:30 pm, another 75-90 at 11:30-11:45, and another 25-50 at 12:30-12:45.
First noticeable effect at around 11:30-11:45, slight tingling in extremities.
No real "peak", but effects were strongest around 12:45-1:00. Well into comedown by 2:30 (sudden, yet gentle - if that makes any sense? It was like "hey, wait a sec, I'm not rolling anymore", but since the effects weren't intense, it wasn't a "crash").
Essentially baseline (except for pupil dilation and other assorted aftereffects) by 3:00.
Effects were very mellow in general. Some eye-jiggling, and noticeable leg shaking when trying to stand, but no visuals, and very little "touchy-feely" effect; senses were moderately enhanced (Irish whiskey tastes very good - we just had a sip, so it wasn't the alcohol killing things). Very low empathic effect and "happy happy joy joy, everything is great" feeling. I had no jaw-clenching, but this is generally rare for me anyway; fiance had some minor teeth chattering and clenching. No nausea at onset, either; I normally feel slightly nauseous, like I wanna lie down for five or ten minutes while it passes, and this had no effect whatsoever. Fiance was able to maintain an erection and ejaculate; orgasm is usually out of the question, and he can't keep an erection after about an hour into the peak.
Overall, very unusual roll, or lack thereof. Normal effect for us is onset at about 30 mins, a very nice peak at ~1 hr which lasts about 3 hours - not "balls to the wall," but fairly hard, then a gradual comedown of 1-2 hours, with plenty of "everything is beautiful" and touchy-feely throughout.
The possible causes we thought of:
1. Insufficient nutrition/rest that day and days prior.
2. Assorted mental set effects, with possible physiological effects on brain chem - we were both pretty psyched, but the previous week had been hell for both of us; too focused on wanting it to be as good as the last time.
3. Something amiss with the substance itself: weak (for whatever reason) MDMA; cut with something; actually MDEA (though I didn't feel "stoned" or "dopey" at all, just not really "rolling").
4. Normal effect of maintaining a lower dose (over a period of time) as opposed to taking a higher dose at outset. (However, I don't believe this total dose to have been much, if at all, different from our last time, and the spread is similar - last time was estimate max 100mg at 10:30 and another 100mg at 12:45. The possible variation here is if the caps we had last time were actually like 150mg apiece - we didn't weigh them ourselves, they were pre-capped - but they seemed too small for that, based on the ones we made this time, and I rather doubt it.)
5. God DOES play dice with the universe; every time is different, who knows what may have caused it this time, maybe next time we'll roll balls from the same stuff, and I should shut up and not worry about it, as I myself have been heard to say.
Any comments?
[title edited -mash]
also note: above questions probably need to be deleted.
[ 25 August 2002: Message edited by: masheadatronic ]
