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MDMA+MDA(?), Expierenced-not Expierenced, The Morphing Face

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MDMA+2CB (or MDA?)?, Expierenced-not Expierenced, The Morphing Face

I say expierenced and not expierenced because I have used MDMA more times than I can remember, heh, but have never expierenced any of the 2-C hallucinogens. In writing this, I have not slept for 30 hours simply because I am a raving mad ass.
[EDIT - It was prolly MDA not 2CB - dont tie ur dick in a knot trying to determine which it was]
Substances: 2 Pills of pink Omegas. BL friend reported they tested for MDMA and 2-CB. I had previously decided I was finished with rolling, but since I had never tried 2-C, I just had to jump on it.
Time: One pill chewed (almost gagged! most bitter taste in the universe, even for an E pill!) immedialtly followed by half a pill insulfated. A few minutes later I swallowed the second half of the second pill. All was done between 11-11:12 pm.
Location: A club in DC. Used to be a phat ass place but its gone to hell over time. We were heading down to DC to hit up the RAVE protest act, but the English guys we were with just had to stop for 2nd dinner and we missed it.
Crew was me and L, J, M, Ja, P, Z, C, S, T, and 6 others but I forget their names. Andd O. T and O were friends of ours from England, who said that pills normally cost 1-3$ over there, but are not even close to comparable to the american high quality pills. English guys are so funny. Z is from Pakistan, and P, J, and S were all from different parts of Asia. We had the whole globe with us heh.
About 11:30 I was getting intitial E rushes. Heat waves of pure pleasure were searing through my body. I had to sit down, it was more intense than I could have imagined. Within minutes, I was noticing that If i stared at one part of the room I was in, everything would dissolve into little tiny fractals and flow and twist together like a colorful soup. I diddnt even realize this until L asked me, "What are you looking at?" I replied "omfg you woudlnt even believe it!" Everyone around me was talking to me but I simply could not comprehend anything. This was not bewildering or disturbing in any way, I felt at the utmost peace at all times. J knew just by looking at me what was going on, he smiled, and having expierenced over 200 some hits of lsd, he said one thing, "Dood, those colors you can see, break em down, break em down into the tiniest particles you can imagine..."
So I sat there imagining colors behind my eyelids for about 20 minutes. It wasnt anything liek tripping, I wasnt having profound introspections or delving deep into my own consciousness, it was like the innermost peacefull feeling that one could possibly reach. I felt that every force in the universe ceased to exist at that moment, and the entire world was all united in one blissful state. Then I closed my eyes, and let my imagination run wild.
L is not real expierenced with E, and was feeling her pill very hard, so she camped out on a couch with me. Everyone else was out dancing (Dj Icey was tearin it up!) The music was forcing my roll and visual effects in to such an intense and positive area that I was sheerly overwhelmed. Every cell in my entire body seemed to be singing and dancing. Then I saw the absolute coolest thing in the universe.
There was nothing but blackness, with stars revolving around in circles. I had no idea if my eyes were open or closed, and expressed this to L. I could not hear her response, I was totally consumed by this vision. There was this face-mask (like the ones on everquest, but way more bad ass). It was jet black but seemed somewhat liquidy. It had green and dark forest green camo splattered all over the face, and the green blobs would flow too and frow across the black face. But the strangest thing was, however I moved my head, it did the same. I quickly learned I could manipulate it, simply by moving my face. I tried moving the nose, the mouth, and eyes. It was friggin wicked! This was not bewildering or confusing, or even trippy. It was just like playing a game where you could move a face around. Ever played mario 64? You know the first screen where you can morph and manipulate mario's face? It was like that.
(its like 1am now) It got even more intense, I could Squeese my mouth together and growl and bite and it would sort of suck its lower jaw up into its head, and then breathe out the mightiest and black-fanged roar imaginable. Im like walking around just making the utmost wierdest faces you could imagine. (my mouth hurts intensly from this, I made faces I could not even hope to attempt while sober). People were asking me, wtf was I doing, i just said, "playin with the face!"
It eventually wore down, but I was still rolling ever intensly. By 2am the only other signifigant visualization was at one time, (I was on a balcony looking at the crowd below) I saw 6 huge knights in platinum and white armor with giant white laser swords step out of the middle of the crowd, and form a cirlce, then dissapear within 20 seconds.
Well, I had full control over my 'normal' vision, and raced down to the dancefloor to battle J wit some glowsticks and our special ninja liquid. He of course, kicked my ass. I chatted it up with many people, but Im not the type to go all out and tell stories or bond with strangers on pills. I heard some of the speeches at the RAVE act protest were great. I ran to check out the DnB room, some killa jungle was blastin out like a rampaging horde. The Dj out on the patio sucked ass, and actually was giving me bad vibes just listening to the crap he was throwing down (about 2-3am).
I thought I had learned everything I could learn from mdma. I was wrong. There are still some things to learn from it. I was able to seek deeply into my future goals, and why they were the way they were. The next few hours I was thinking, but always in an upward manner, about my life and my future. ABout 4am I was talking bout something when O says, "oh, are we a bit queer?"
This was so wierd and random, I thought he said something different, so I asked what he said, and he said, "are you queer?"
Now in england, queer = kinda whacky, wierd, etc. However, I was heavily under the influence and thought he was asking me if I was homosexual. So i said, no dood, and laughed hehe. He looked at me funny and walked away (we were busting up about this later).
I diddnt have a harsh comedown at all, allthough several of my friends reported a harsh crash. None of them had any kind of visuals like I had, but they all only took one pill. I slowly eased back into reality and was ready to face the 5 hour drive home by 7am. The individuals who rolled for the first time said it was the most amazing time they had ever expierenced. All in all, it was a great night. E is not my personal fave, but combined with 2-C or whatever was in it, it was the most heavenly and blissful feeling ever.
Sucks I had to work at 3pm heh.
[ 10 September 2002: Message edited by: THE WOOD ]
 
cool report...
although I find difficult to have visuals while on mdma , 2cb must have been THE difference ...
I often get me thinking about present and near future while on mdma or coming down but in a cool way , calm way , and most possible way ..
I cant express myself right now
cya
 
Nice report but id say it was much more likely to have been a high dosage MDA pill than 2CB and MDMA, im not discounting it was 2CB but I have had this discussion many times with people and although it does happen very occasionally 2CB and MDMA in the same pill is a very unlikely combination.
There has been a large amount of orange omegas in the USA lately and these were definitely without a doubt MDA, I cant say ive ever seen a report for a pink one though....
How much MDMA and 2CB was in the pills, can you ask your friend who had them lab tested for me, where were they tested?
who said that pills normally cost 1-3$ over there, but are not even close to comparable to the american high quality pills
I really doubt this is actually true, the American market is much more open to bad quality pills being that it is an inexperienced market, people in the UK expect high quality and I would think its fairly obvious that the closer you are in proximity to Holland and Belgium where an estimated 80-90% of the worlds MDMA is produced the better quality pills that exist, from moderating pillreports in both the UK and USA, I would say the actual overall pill markets are fairly similar (taking into account the pills you are looking at are MDMA) if pillreports for can be taken as a good data sample.
America does have a lot more pills sold as Ecstasy which are not MDMA though and again this is probably due to the fact its further away from where it is made and such a new market and a fast growing market can easily be sold other things.
However America does seem to get a lot more MDA which many people would say is stronger, many people also make the mistake of thinking MDA is just a high strength MDMA pill because they dont know there is other MD family drugs.
Do a search on pillreports, the orange omegas which there is a picture of below have probably been one of the most notorious pills this year in America....
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Might be called orange but looks kinda pinky to me and so did some of the other pics.
That was taken from here.
[ 08 September 2002: Message edited by: masheadatronic ]
 
How much MDMA and 2CB was in the pills, can you ask your friend who had them lab tested for me, where were they tested?
They werent "lab" tested, I hadn't slept in 2.5 days when I wrote that report. They were tested with a kit. It showed up black and green.
I have expierenced MDA before, and the expierence in this report is much like it. If in fact it were MDA, I would definetly believe it. Like said, I had no real "trip" like feeling, it was like rolling extremely strong with a few brief but intense visuals.
I spoke with a few Bluelighters who had the same pills (not that the fact that they are BLers makes a difference) who said it was 2-CB. IMO, the amount of 2-CB with MDMA that was said to be in the pills felt and 'looked' alot like MDA + MDMA. I have had red, tan, white, and now pink omegas, pink being the strongest and most favorable.
I really doubt this is actually true, the American market is much more open to bad quality pills being that it is an inexperienced market, people in the UK expect high quality and I would think its fairly obvious that the closer you are in proximity to Holland and Belgium where an estimated 80-90% of the worlds MDMA is produced the better quality pills that exist,
This may in fact be true, but my friend said "wow, this pill is awesome. It would take 4 or 5 of pills im used to back home to equal this. Then again, they cost me about 1-3 or 1-5$ back in London, heh." There was extemely loud music blaring all around us, along with hundreds of people dancing, so that quote may not be 100% accurate.
Mash, the picture you posted looks more on the orange side. The pink omegas had a distinctly pink tone to them.
although I find difficult to have visuals while on mdma , 2cb must have been THE difference ...
I have never had a visual hallucination on MDMA (I am not counting the effects of nystigmus [sp] as a hallucination).
Perhaps it was MDA, but I really dont care since it was one of my top 3 ecstasy expierences ever. I had no "crash" sensastion or depression during the comedown (untill I got to work heh). I felt great the entire car ride home, even when I got lost in the bad part of DC, even when no one would give me directions out of the city, and even when some arabic deli market attendant told me to "go ask a fucking taxi."
 
Well im glad you had a great time whatever was in them :D
Im not trying to disprove you as you dont know and I dont know so its irrelvent.
Also testing that shows up both black and green with what im guessing was the marquis reagent is very hard to see as the black would easily over ride the green, the marquis reagent although I tell people to use it to test their pills is practically useless especially when trying to say a pill contains more than one substance.
Pills are that price in England but... like you said yourself that was a one off great pill so its not suprising he also found it better than most pills especially if it did contain 2CB as a 2CB and MDMA pill is incredibly rare, so I wouldnt bear this as any relation to the UK having much worse pills.
 
Those pills do NOT HAVE ANY 2C-B in them, NONE WHATSOEVER! I was also rolling on one of those same pills that night when I met THE WOOD, and I can say with 100% confidence, based on my experiences with 2C-B, that there was none of it in there. As you said in your report, you didn't get any of those introspective tripping feelings. Those pills are definitely the orange omegas that have been going around the US, and all they contain is a very high dose of quite pure MDA. With that taken into account, WOOD, you should change the title of your post to MDA instead of MDMA + 2C-B, because the orange omegas contain neither of those substances.
 
TheWOOD if theese are the same Omegas that I tried from the same source which I think they are I too think they are MDMA w/ MDA or just plain MDA.
When I tried them I got very very slight disorientation and blurring but not really any visuals.... It was almost as if they wanted to come out but never really did.
One pill was extremly powerful in the terms of rolling which was extremly odd in my case.
The only times that has happened was once before when I had a pill of MDMA +MDA which is why I realized the similarities between the omegas and the latter pill being a red pentagon about two years back.
The only reason I cant say for certain that it wasnt 2-cb in it is because the night before I was on some other psychs which may have had a direct result in the tolerance issues as to why I didnt get any visuals etc. etc.
 
Yep, although at one time I did think they were 2CB and MDMA, after taking a few and talking to others who had experience with 2cb (5HT-2) I found out they have no 2cb. Most likely they are high quality MDA, and since I had visuals of of one of those pills before two probably would seem alot more psychedelic in the visual area :)
Oh yea, talk from the source of those pills tells me there are two batches with slightly different coloring. The earlier ones were pinkish with specks in them, while the newer ones have an orangish hue to the pink. But there both the same in contents.
 
yah i had pink wit specks.
and ive had a single pill of mda before. Double dose, with one half insullfated, wow...that was incredible.
 
Fantastic report! Thank you for giving me that rush just thinking about some good times.
I thought I had learned everything I could learn from mdma. I was wrong. There are still some things to learn from it. I was able to seek deeply into my future goals, and why they were the way they were. The next few hours I was thinking, but always in an upward manner, about my life and my future.
I am with you on this. I myself had been getting bored with the monotony of MDMA until a recent experience, thinking that I had seen all there is with the substance, and have had experiences that cannot be topped. Well, I was wrong, and looking at that experience I discovered many things about my life, and myself in general, like you said, all positive or elevating. Its all about us, and what we make of it.
 
I've taken these pills. They are not 2cb. The weekend after I took an omega, I acquired 2cb.
It is quite obviously mda. The difference between 2cb and mda is so vast.. I don't even know how they could be confused.
guess ya can't always trust a bler. hehehe
 
Originally posted by randycaver:

It is quite obviously mda. The difference between 2cb and mda is so vast.. I don't even know how they could be confused.

They can be confused quite easily, if the person has little experience with MDA and no experience with 2C-B.
Looking at it from an economic perspective, MDA is easier and cheaper to manufacture than 2C-B, so why would a clandestine chemist put out several HUGE batches of pills with 2C-B in them if people expect the pills to be MD**? The only scenario in which putting 2C-B in pills would make sense is if there is an abnormally LOW dose of MD** in the pill. I think everybody who has taken the omegas can testify that the dose of MDA in there is incredibly high, probably above 150 mg.
 
Great report! It's true the U.S. gets the majority of the shitty pills, but you need to know your stuff and find the right person. Just like in any other country. Anyways cool experience.
 
The weekend after I took an omega, I acquired 2cb.
Freaking ay people, I was writing a fucking trip report. Dont get all hung up on it.
Besides Ive had like 3 or 4 different colors of Omegas, and had them years apart from each other. White used to be my favorite, but these pink speckled ones blew them away.
Like I said, I never "tripped" the entire time. I kinda thought it was MDA, but who fuckin cares.
 
Sounds like fun !
The first few times I took pills, I had exactly the same type of effects, eg full on controllable hallucinations.
One time I was playing a playstation racing game hanging in the air in front of me, and I always used to be able to stretch peoples noses out by looking at them :)
I'm pretty sure they were MDA pills, too...
 
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