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MDMA + DXM - MDMA: Experienced/DXM: 1st Time - Confusion Roll or: Test Your Pills!

DJWhat

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Last night me and 2 friends, B and E, went to a house party because we were bored. We got to the party at 12:00pm and checked out the scene. My friend E had been to these house parties before, and usually had a lot of fun at them, but this would be my 1st time. But after a while her boyfriend and my roommate B wanted to leave because he forgot his contact lens solution, and his lenses were fogging up. E wanted to leave because she felt weird not knowing anyone there except 2 people. I wanted to stay to check out the DJs spinnin, but I didn't want to keep them there if they weren't going to have a good time, so I told them I wanted to leave too.
Before we left we decided to get some pills. E went to the girl selling at the party to buy 5 total, 2 for me and B and 1 for her. Later she told us that when she asked what kind they were, she replied "I dunno, purple passions or something." That should have been the 1st warning sign that something was up with these pills; if a dealer doesn't even know what the fuck they're selling, stay away! When we were leaving the party B decided to drop his right then in the car, but I was remaining cautious, saying I didn't want to drop it until I checked out Pillreports.com. E said, "Well, you're going to drop it anyway right? Why not do it now?" Well, that made sense at the time, so I dropped it around 12:30. Foolish! The pills were very large, probably the biggest I'd taken so far in the 20 or so times I've tried MDMA. They tasted like MDMA, and were quite hard pressed.
We stopped at a grocery store to get some water, then went back to our apartment to prepare everything: lights, music, setting, etc. Once I got home I tried checking out Pillreports, but my cable modem wasn't working. So I forgot about it and continued what I was doing, just hanging out waiting for the roll to kick in.
At about 1:30 I started feeling the effects of the first pill. At the time it felt like a normal roll, actually better than average, but that may be because it'd been 6-7 weeks since the last time I rolled. I got the usual effects: eye twitches, jaw clenching, empathetic feelings, etc.
At about 2:00 me and B decided to drop the 2nd pill, because the last time we rolled we decided that taking the 2nd pill a half hour after the effects of the 1st one are felt is the best way to get the most out of 2 pills. Approx. 30 minutes after we dropped, I started feeling the 2nd pill VERY strongly.
At first I thought that this was turning out to be a very good roll, but soon after that I could tell there was something different about these pills. The 1st thing I noticed is that I felt very hot, instead of cold like I usually feel. The 2nd effect I felt was that I had a hard time moving about, and decided to lay back on the bed instead of walking around. I felt very disassociated for the first time, as I've never done a recreational dose of DXM or K or anything like that before. The closest thing it resembled for me, was when I'd take a high dose of diphenhydramine for sleep, and stay awake longer than I should have, but this was much stronger. Another alarming effect was I got these body twitches, like my feet would twitch about for no reason. That's never happened before. At one point my eye twitches were so bad I couldn't keep focus on anything for more than a couple seconds.
These pills didn't have the usual clarity of mind that pure MDMA brings. Instead of thinking happy optimistic thoughts like usual, I was instead trying to figure out what the hell was going on. I would think of something, then seconds later wonder if I'd said it outloud. I asked E, "Is it just me, or do these pills feel trippy?" She said, "Uhhh, yeah!" in kind of a sarcastic "no shit, Sherlock" tone. Instead of talking about future plans and other happy shit with my friends, me and B were mostly saying shit like "Damn.....fuuuuuuck.....damn I am fucked up....woah..." I think that was the only coherent thoughts we could think to say at the time. At the time I believed the pills were MDA or MDEA, because these were so different from all the other pills I've done. One thing I noticed is that the music we were listening had a dark, evil undertone to it. The CD for most of the night was Simply Jeff - Breakbeat Massive, I'd just bought that day. I'd been looking all over for it because I had it on MP3 form and loved it, but listening to it rolling (Robolling?) didn't strike me like listening to good music usually does. In fact I was thinking, "This doesn't sound as good as I know it should be right now."
At one point E wanted to hear one of my other CDs, so I went into my room to find it. I have a big stack of 30 or so CDs on my desk where I keep a lot of my burned discs, and I went through the CDs to find it. I couldn't find it, but I looked through the stack 3 times because I was convinced it was in there somewhere. Then I went walking through my apartment complex to my car to look in there, and on the way I saw 2 guys hanging out on their porch drinking beers. Usually when I'm rolling I feel very at ease around people, but this time all that was going through my head was "Please God don't let them start talking to me...I'm too fucked up...I can't handle this shit if they start talking to me." They ignored me, but if they had said something I don't know what I would have done. I had a hard enough time forming thoughts when talking to my friends, I don't know how I would have handled those guys. I probably would have either ignored them or said a nervous "Hi." I went into my car to look for the CD, but I actually forgot what I was doing in there a couple times.
I went back into the apartment and chilled upstairs some more. At around 3:30 I felt the effects of the roll starting to subside, and I tried looking up Pillreports again. By this time I had regained enough mental power to figure out how to fix the modem, and I got on-line.
I checked out Pillreports, and after some searching around I believe we tookthese pills. The description matched our pills exactly; purple, very thick, UFO shaped, and no logo.
After that I broke the news to B and E, yet they didn't seem as upset as I did. I was pretty mad because this was the first time I'd been sold a dangerous pill. Then I started thinking about what E told me earlier, that 2 people bought 5 pills each from the same girl. I just hope they weren't stupid and took all 5 of those pills and danced around all night, because then we'll be sure to see another "Ecstasy Overdose" report in the papers. I checked the local news websites and didn't see anything like that, so hopefully everyone who took them was OK.
At about 4:30am I decided to get some sleep. I was feeling much more tired than I usually do after rolling. Usually I can stay up all night and into the next morning if I feel like it, sometimes even on 1 pill. But to help sleep - just in case - I took 100mg of 5-HTP with valerian root and some other additives, and nighttime pain relief pills that came out to 50mg diphenhydramine and 1g acetaminophen. Even with these sleeping pills I still woke up several times that night, once at about 6:30, and I was still feeling very out of it and sketchy. I woke up for good this morning at 11:00, still feeling kind of sketchy, drank 3 beers and watched the Chargers game. Now I'm feeling fine, actually a little better than I usually feel the day after rolling.
Now I still feel upset at the girl who sold those dangerous pills to me and my friends. Dealers who don't know they're selling dangerous pill combos deserve to have the shit beat out of them, no excuses. However part of the blame falls on us because we weren't responsible enough to spot the shady pills. Live and learn, I guess. This makes me want to buy a testing kit before we roll again. I'm never dropping a pill without knowing what the hell is in it again, and I'll never buy pills from someone I don't know. Now I feel especially grateful that there are sites like Bluelight, Pillreports, and Dancesafe. Now I know what harm reduction is all about. I like to think I'm more knowledgeable than most people when it comes to drugs, and usually I'm pretty responsible. But I can see how people at the party who took those pills whould not think anything was wrong, especially if they didn't know about the DXM/MDMA combo. I can picture a stupid person flailing about in the living room, thinking "Wow these pills are sooo strong! I can barely stand up, let alone dance, and I can't think straight!"
So this was a lesson to me and my friends, that testing pills is very important. I hope I don't feel any ill efects in the coming weeks, seeing as I could have had a fucking SERATONIN SYNDROME and fucked up my liver, among other things. If I feel any different I will keep you updated.
 
Sounds like your friends don't give a shit what they put in their bodies, just as long as they get a buzz. "You're going to take it anyway" said E. Also once you found out that it wasn't MDMA in those pills, they didn't seem to care.
Let them know that DXM/MDMA is a potentially lethal combination. If they don't know what lethal means (sounds like they are too lazy to look something up in the dictionary), it means you can die from it.
Buy a test kit. Kudos to you for caring.
 
Jesus your lucky! Nice report, just goes to show that you can't ever trust random dealers...
In regards to your friends apathy, I had this discussion with some friends about testing a few weeks ago. I was shocked that none of my friends who eat pills would be bothered to shell out the $50 for a testing kit, and one guy even said that If he was dealing and I wanted to test the pills, he'd be offended...
 
I've been thinking what would have happened if we stayed at the party instead of going home. Me and E probably would have danced since there were DJs there, but B doesn't dance so he would have been OK. Dealing with 50-60 or so random people I didn't know in that state would have given me a panic attack, I'm sure of it. I also wonder what would happen if somehow I knew those pills had DXM. I would want to warn everyone else about them, but if I had caused a scene I probably would have gotten my ass kicked since the girl selling them was a friend of most of the people there, not to mention the g/f of the guy who was throwing the party. But if I see that girl again I will give her a piece of my mind since she could have seriously fucked up my friends and I. I hope she gets her comeuppance soon, in the form of an ass beating, for doing dumb shit like that.
As for my friends, they were upset but not as much as I was. They didn't seem to understand the seriousness of the situation, but if they were as much as a drug knowledge junkie as me, I'm sure they would have been.
Anyways thanks for the replies...
 
Very nice report! Nice and thorough.
I am happy to see that you have realized the importance of knowing your substance. Good thing no one was hurt.
It is also nice to see your concern for others. With more people like you out there some poor naieve souls may be spared from getting hurt.
 
50mg diphenhydramine and 1g acetaminophen.
A gram of tylenol after potentially using DXM and MDMA? Not a good idea.
"I dunno, purple passions or something." That should have been the 1st warning sign that something was up with these pills; if a dealer doesn't even know what the fuck they're selling, stay away!
What if she said, in a very confident manner, "these are purple passions! theyre fuckin bangin!" Would it have made any of a difference?
Good to hear you keep "an eye out" for what you consume tho. GL in the future.
 
Originally posted by THE WOOD:
A gram of tylenol after potentially using DXM and MDMA? Not a good idea.
What's wrong with it? Extra load on my liver I take it? I didn't think of that at the time...
What if she said, in a very confident manner, "these are purple passions! theyre fuckin bangin!" Would it have made any of a difference?
At the time we bought them, yes, it probably would have fooled me. But in the future I'll trust a dealer as far as I can throw them. Next time I buy I'm going to have a mental checklist of unsafe pills goin around the SW just in case. I read Pillreports a lot and I already know some dangerous pills (pink Chanels, white mitsi's, pills shaped like clovers, stars, etc.)
Good to hear you keep "an eye out" for what you consume tho. GL in the future.
Thanks...
Fortunately my friends and I are feeling fine now, the combo didn't seem to harm us in any serious way. I haven't seem any bad news reports in the papers either, so hopefully everyone who took em is OK.
***EDIT***
I've been doing some more searching on those pills, and there's a possibility that they could have either:
1. Contained 100% PCP
2. Contained 91% PCP and 9% Ketamine
3. Contained BZP and TFMPP
This is going through all the purple pills on Dancesafe and EcstasyData. Some of those pictures are hard to match to our pills, but does anyone think, that with my trip report, that it could be any of those? I don't think it could have been PCP, from what I've read about PCP, but I'm pretty clueless about BZP and TFMPP. Would any of those pills' effects be close enough to rolling to fool us all?
[ 02 October 2002: Message edited by: DJWhat ]
 
Good report! Thank you for sharing.
Sorry to here bout the bad pills though, I hope you do test your pills from now on :)
I think DXM+MDMA sounds more like the experience than PCP, PCP + K or the piperazines? But we don't really have a definate answer..?
 
that sounded pretty harsh man i would've been pissed too. i don't feel it is the dealers fault though, as much as it is yours. as funny as this may sound i only buy drugs from people i trust my life to. i would never in a million years approach someone in public or at a club i didn't know to buy pills. and plus what if she did know what the pills were and figured if she told people they wouldn't take them? if i don't feel right about the situation i always wait... :) i liked the report
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