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4-hoxyz

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So along time ago, I was told that you could test purity of mdma and determine in a crude way which way it swings based on how it burns and colors seperate. melts clear, then yellow then red..
I noticed that the dryer molly will burn faster than wet, and that when it seems more yellow, it's more of a sass high and more towards the red it more mdma and on the heavy visual side. can anyone validate or explain to me what is happening when you heat it up and what it means.
thanks, and BTW hello i'm new to this forum:)
 
Why would you wanna burn your molly? Just eat that shit! :D

btw, 'sass' refers to mda, which is usually considered a more 'visual' high. MDMA is rarely visual, except for distortions here and there and what have you. If you wanna test your stuff just buy a test kit, no fire necessary.


Welcome to bluelight nigga :D
 
right on thanks. as far as mda. yes I agree, but mda is alot longer acting than mdma and this stuff was realy short lived. intense jitter vision, very pronounced visuals almost lsd like, with bands of colors swirling in geometric formation and was high for about 3-3.5 hours..
also you only need about about a match head worth of product.
I remember years ago, i used to get this stuff, def 100% pure, oderless, cololess and tastless. 50 mg would roll you to hell and back and at 125 mg you would have your eyes in the back of the head with intense visuals.. the guy that gave it to me was the guy who showed me this. just woundering if anybody else has ever experimented with a flash test at all?
 
What an absolute load of twaddle.

You burn your mdma and whatever colour it turns well thats what it is..........lol.

Get a test kit dude and do it properly.
 
What an absolute load of twaddle.

You burn your mdma and whatever colour it turns well thats what it is..........lol.

Get a test kit dude and do it properly.
 
4-hoxyz said:
right on thanks. as far as mda. yes I agree, but mda is alot longer acting than mdma and this stuff was realy short lived. intense jitter vision, very pronounced visuals almost lsd like, with bands of colors swirling in geometric formation and was high for about 3-3.5 hours..
also you only need about about a match head worth of product.
I remember years ago, i used to get this stuff, def 100% pure, oderless, cololess and tastless. 50 mg would roll you to hell and back and at 125 mg you would have your eyes in the back of the head with intense visuals.. the guy that gave it to me was the guy who showed me this. just woundering if anybody else has ever experimented with a flash test at all?
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To be honest the guy sounds a bit sketchy. Spreading misinformation is one thing, but selling fake drugs is another. MDMA is not tasteless, it's bitter as a llamas bumhole. No MDMA will have you 'roling to hell and back' off 50mg. If you had real MDMA I doubt you would use hell as a metaphor anyway. Perhaps you got some RC's.

Also, MDA only lasts a bit longer than MDMA, by maybe an hour or two..granted it may take a while to get to sleep.
 
that stuff was tested on a kit and was realy good. it was slightly salty. uniform chrystals and always well dried.. I just hate to rely on tester kits, because in the recent years I've seen alot of good and alot of mediocre molly. and even mediocre molly always seems to test good.
I have a little 4-aceo-dmt and a little 2c-e. I should do a flash on that and see what up.
 
commercially available test kits do not test the purity of your substance. they will simply tell you whether or not you have an adulterant present.

just because it tests clean doesn't mean that it's not cut to shit with inactive ingredients.

the only way to get a read on the actual percentage of MDMA present would be to test with a GC/MS machiene (a large and rather expensive piece of lab equipment). I reckon you could possibly rig up some sort of titration and reaction to stoichiometrically determine your MDMA purity to.

point being... a tester kit gives you no bearing on purity, it just gives you piece of mind that you're not about to eat a ton of adulterants
 
Afair it is possible to determine the purity of a substance/mixture by measuring its melting point, comparing it to the temperature of the pure substance and by looking at the difference trying to make a guess what you got there and how pure it is.

Never tried it, don't know anything about it beyond what I've told you - chemistry isn't mine and the last school lesson has been loooooong ago. Using this method should require knowledge about how different cutting agents might alter the melting point.

Reading that you've been told sounds like you've got the point wrong, the person who told you got the point wrong or that it sounds strange at all. That I have never heard about this doesn't mean anything, but it the melting point thingy was the first thing that came to my mind reading this.
 
hans, the method you described is how we were tested at times in one of my organic chem labs. you were given an unknown substance, and a table of various given melting points of substances.

you then took a small sample of your unknown and heated it in a device until you observed it melting... from there you were able to deduce what the unknown was.

however, this wouldn't be a good method for determining how pure a substance was. as you said, cutting reagents would alter the MP and even then, the fact that at some point it will melt will just tell you that "yes, chemical x was in there", but have no bearing on its purity.
 
4-hoxyz said:
that stuff was tested on a kit and was realy good. it was slightly salty. uniform chrystals and always well dried..
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That doesn't get around the fact that what cryptix420 said was true, pure MDMA at 50mg is a weak experience & is most definitely not tasteless.
 
cryptix420 said:
Why would you wanna burn your molly? Just eat that shit! :D

btw, 'sass' refers to mda, which is usually considered a more 'visual' high. MDMA is rarely visual, except for distortions here and there and what have you. If you wanna test your stuff just buy a test kit, no fire necessary.


Welcome to bluelight nigga :D
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Yes "Sass" would refer to MDA. It stands for Sassafras, and is a main ingredient in the production of MDA.


As for burning your MDMA, invest in a pill kit for testing the purity (or lack of). Smoking would be a waste, and all the binders and crud in them would give you a killer headache. Probably wouldnt make your lungs to happy either
 
as far as melting point that prob the best way besides a GC/MS. I knew someone who was making it and had to rely on it because the University would keep track of everything that whent into it. the stuff would melt 1/2 degree higher than molly, was excellent but wasn't as dense and chrystals were not as nice. it was def active in the 75 mg range and exhibited the same color patterns.. 50 mgs is normaly a week dose, but if its pure enough you will roll. i remember back in the late 90's most of those tasty double stacks didn't have more than 125 mgs maybe 150 mg of mdma. it seems that these days because of the restriction on chemicals, and the use of alternatives, even though different routes will yield a product, doesn't mean that its as good. but whatever i guess it's all the same.
Has anyone experimented with mde at all?
 
4-hoxyz said:
as far as melting point that prob the best way besides a GC/MS. I knew someone who was making it and had to rely on it because the University would keep track of everything that whent into it. the stuff would melt 1/2 degree higher than molly, was excellent but wasn't as dense and chrystals were not as nice. it was def active in the 75 mg range and exhibited the same color patterns.. 50 mgs is normaly a week dose, but if its pure enough you will roll. i remember back in the late 90's most of those tasty double stacks didn't have more than 125 mgs maybe 150 mg of mdma. it seems that these days because of the restriction on chemicals, and the use of alternatives, even though different routes will yield a product, doesn't mean that its as good. but whatever i guess it's all the same.
Has anyone experimented with mde at all?
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MDE is very similiar to MDMA its just alot weaker and requires dosages in the 100-200mg range to feel its effects.
 
Burning your MDMA to test it just sounds like a retarded idea and that is that.
 
4-hox: Even Shulgin suggested in some of his notes that 75ish mg was almost the minimum for an active dose of MDMA.

Pure or not, 50 mg will give you nothing but threshold effects (unless you are just an utterly tiny person). It is simply just too small an amount.
 
Blazif07 said:
4-hox: Even Shulgin suggested in some of his notes that 75ish mg was almost the minimum for an active dose of MDMA.

Pure or not, 50 mg will give you nothing but threshold effects (unless you are just an utterly tiny person). It is simply just too small an amount.
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Orally, maybe. Plugged you can fell 50mg and IV'd you can feel 50mg almost too well (more than likely too well for many people) ;)
 
Mazdan he was just asking a question..... no need to say what a load of twaddle.
MDMA burning a certain color could be likely but i do not think anyone knows what that color is and there could be other chemicals that burn that color or a certain combination of chemicals that could burn that color.
melting point could give you the information your looking for but not worth it and cant give you a definitely reslute.... test kit is best bet. even then its not showing you potency just that its a MDxx compound.
 
AylaV said:
Orally, maybe. Plugged you can fell 50mg and IV'd you can feel 50mg almost too well (more than likely too well for many people) ;)
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Touche Ayla... infact i've done that before (plugging)... but I still only got a minimum of effects. ie: i didn't ROLL face, so to speak!
 
Yes "Sass" would refer to MDA. It stands for Sassafras, and is a main ingredient in the production of MDA.


As for burning your MDMA, invest in a pill kit for testing the purity (or lack of). Smoking would be a waste, and all the binders and crud in them would give you a killer headache. Probably wouldnt make your lungs to happy either
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sassafras isnt just the main ingredient in making MDA, it is also the main ingredient in making MDMA so one could call MDMA sass as well? names like that are just gimmicks man
 
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