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yippydoo

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I used to pop pills in my 20s on nights out, mostly ecstasy or BZP. I'm in my late 30s now & haven't taking anything like that in almost 10 years. Can anyone recommend something that would give a mild euphoric buzz but not blow the head off me? :LOL: Do head shops still sell party pills or has all that stuff been made illegal now?
 
I'm in Ireland/UK, seems most head shops don't sell party pills anymore from what I can see

Man I've been out of the game for too long never even heard of 2c lol.... does it give a similar buzz to E? I don't think I'd be even able to get my hands on that tbh... are they're any prescription drugs that would give a nice mild buzz? Yep that's how bad things have got :ROFLMAO:
 
imo like no more than a half 1/8th to 2grams of average shrooms is a body high kind of similar to mdma... also it will probably have a small amount of open eye visuals or maybe just some more vibrant color, and probably some closed eye visuals.
 
I'm in Ireland/UK, seems most head shops don't sell party pills anymore from what I can see

Man I've been out of the game for too long never even heard of 2c lol.... does it give a similar buzz to E? I don't think I'd be even able to get my hands on that tbh... are they're any prescription drugs that would give a nice mild buzz? Yep that's how bad things have got :ROFLMAO:
Oh yeah if you're in the UK forget about it nothing's legal these days. 2016 psychoactive substances act killed everything dead although I think Ireland may have had their own blanket bans in place before Theresa May fucked everything up for the rest of the UK.

2cb is incredible though general mood and sensory enhancer at lower doses and increasingly psychedelic at higher doses and you can take it a lot more often than MDMA as there's no serotonin or dopamine drain. Read some trip reports and have a look at the big dandy thread.

Forget about legal highs though they don't exist anymore. Unless you want to move to mainland Europe or the states :laughing:
 
I used to pop pills in my 20s on nights out, mostly ecstasy or BZP. I'm in my late 30s now & haven't taking anything like that in almost 10 years. Can anyone recommend something that would give a mild euphoric buzz but not blow the head off me? :LOL: Do head shops still sell party pills or has all that stuff been made illegal now?
They made the Cathinone version of MDMA. Methylone/ bk-MDMA.

Fits your prescription perfect, sad its been illegalized for a while.
Would make a nice Alcohol weekend replacement. Imo.

You just missed that legal boat, but its probably illegally still out there.
Love it, better then MDMA, as its more mellow, less in your face a shorter duration.
Never had sleeping problems or hangovers from it.

Found it also not really fiending, unlike MDMA and a less forced high.
Its like the friendly version of MDMA.
 
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They made the Cathinone version of MDMA. Methylone/ bk-MDMA.

Fits your prescription perfect, sad its been illegalized for a while.
Would make a nice Alcohol weekend replacement. Imo.

You just missed that legal boat, but its probably illegally still out there.
Love it, better then MDMA, as its more mellow, less in your face a shorter duration.
Never had sleeping problems or hangovers from it.

Found it also not really fiending, unlike MDMA and a less forced high.
Methylone was a wonderful drug. Haven't seen it since 2010 sadly.
 
Qat/ Khat

Also illegal, not in Israel, Somalia and Ethiopia.
Even growing it is legal in NL, but the fresh Qat was a nice whip.
To illegalize, a nice blow for the Ethiopian/ Somalian remains of their life,
a soft drug imo. Not anything like Coke, Speed or Ephedra.

But in eyes of the governement they were no mere then lazy junks.
A nuisance ? They were not causing trouble.
Nice excuse right, culd have also said we look down on you and your culture.
And we gonna fuck it up. Against drug experts advise.

Kinda akin to a sloppy social lubricating euphoric 'stimulant'
Does not energise you really or keep you awake after.
But it had a social vibe, and was relaxing.

A couch drug.

And what happened to the refugees after. family s fell apart,
social structures broke down, many got addicted to more dangerous drugs [Alcohol].
The lucky ones escaped to England before Brexit.

It ime is also a good substitute not really a emphatogen.
But more that then a stimulant, the fresh twigs.

Got me sitting in a room with 30 people talking to me Gibberish.
Inviting me to stay a while, some talked English.
Not like the ambience the average Dutch dealer creates
Their music playing got tea the Banana wrap, and a good explanation.

How to use, how much/ how many times. What not to combine with.
they where practising harm reduction. Before Bluelight excisted.
 
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I'm in Ireland/UK, seems most head shops don't sell party pills anymore from what I can see

Man I've been out of the game for too long never even heard of 2c lol.... does it give a similar buzz to E? I don't think I'd be even able to get my hands on that tbh... are they're any prescription drugs that would give a nice mild buzz? Yep that's how bad things have got :ROFLMAO:

You can find Mkat/4MMC/Mephedrone in the UK.

In low dosages, such as lines of 40/50mg spaced 45 minutes to 1 hour, or taking 80 to 100mg orally every 90 minutes is a milder buzz than MDMA and it does not cause a comedown of any type for me if the session is not too long and you keep hydrated and remember to stick a few snacks in you.

It does not have the mild psychedelic tendencies of MDMA, but it is very social, a good empathogen, and it's very good for listening to music, dancing and sex.

It can be described (very generically) as being in between MDMA and good coke.

Its effects come on quicker than MDMA, the peak is shorter, and the comedown is faster but not in an unpleasant way like coke.
And, if you keep the dosages small and you don't redose too frequently, you can redose several times and keep getting a decent high with every line.

I can sleep usually within 2 or 3 hours after the last dose.

Did I mention it's good for sex?
It is very good for sex.
 
So lots of sex then, ok cool :ROFLMAO:

Does it cause palpitations? I used to get crazy palps when I'd try to sleep after a night of pills so there's no way at my age now I'd be fit for that, don't wanna end up carted off in an ambulance at 5am :LOL:

My only worry obviously is ya never really know the strength of what you're getting sometimes, does sound like a nice buzz though.

Are there any prescription pills that give a nice high? Maybe I can fake an injury with my doc =D
 
If it should be similar to mdma what youre looking for Then Id recommend 5-apb, 5-mapb or 5-eapb. Theres also 5-apdb which is a Little less euphoric than the afore mentioned.

If the substance should be milder than mdma Then id recommend methylone, ethylone or dimethylone which feel a identical. Theres also mdai which also feels less pushy than mdma.

And there are all the serotonergic Amphetamines and cathinones available atm like 3-fa, 3-fma, 3-fea and their 4-substituted couterparts. 3-mec, Mephedrene, 3-cmc, 3-cec and 3-fmc are also still available, at least here in Europe.

If it Needs to be milder than mdma Then remember that you can always take smaller Doses.

My recommendation from all the compounds i just mentioned would be methylone (or euthylone/dimethylone) or 3-fa (3-fma/3-fea).
 
If it should be similar to mdma what youre looking for Then Id recommend 5-apb, 5-mapb or 5-eapb. Theres also 5-apdb which is a Little less euphoric than the afore mentioned.

If the substance should be milder than mdma Then id recommend methylone, ethylone or dimethylone which feel a identical. Theres also mdai which also feels less pushy than mdma.

And there are all the serotonergic Amphetamines and cathinones available atm like 3-fa, 3-fma, 3-fea and their 4-substituted couterparts. 3-mec, Mephedrene, 3-cmc, 3-cec and 3-fmc are also still available, at least here in Europe.

If it Needs to be milder than mdma Then remember that you can always take smaller Doses.

My recommendation from all the compounds i just mentioned would be methylone (or euthylone/dimethylone) or 3-fa (3-fma/3-fea).
Damn dude you know your drugs, are you a Walter White style chemist? :LOL:
 
Damn dude you know your drugs, are you a Walter White style chemist? :LOL:

Took around 350 Research chemicals in the last 20 years, so yes, you get to know your stuff.


6-apb. It's actually better than a lot of the MDMA I've come across this century..

Oh yes, 6-apb is a lot better than mdma or the 5 aminopropylbenzofurans. It has this sorta intelectual high and you dont have this Melancholic wasted high that i have from mdma. Yes, i don’t Like mdma…
 
Sounds exactly what I'm looking for. Only small problem is that most likely no one I know will be able to get it :laughing:
 
Sounds exactly what I'm looking for. Only small problem is that most likely no one I know will be able to get it :laughing:

Youre in the usa? All i can say is that there are some vendors there. Try googling „rc scene“, i hope this doesnt violate the no vendor discussion rule.
 
Nah man I'm in Ireland, haven't a clue how available it is over here even. Then again I am old so the young cool kids are probably snorting their heads off with the stuff for all I know
 
Nah man I'm in Ireland, haven't a clue how available it is over here even. Then again I am old so the young cool kids are probably snorting their heads off with the stuff for all I know
I did attempt a response but it went so OT I had to fuck it off.

I grew up with the privilege of the ultimate home from home - despite being English and born in the UK I was along with my Cumbrian Dad, raised by my wonderful Mother and when seeing them multiple times over the course of a year, my extended maternal family, with them (as well as my mom of course) being by and large from the Northside of Dublin (Ive lost touch with the last culshy / culshie(?) I used to spend time with, his massive umpteen million euro's worth of a house on Gleeson Street being the closest I have been to anyone with real money...

(notwithstanding the weird and wonderful few years my friend and I palled around with UK Theatre Impresario Bill Kenwright in the mid 90's, meeting and getting to know him as we were all regulars on the Sat eve return Train from Liverpool LS to London Euston following Everton's home weekend fixtures (my friend and I alighting half way as I live in the West Mids, a story of almost total incredulity that long predated his Chairmanship of the club this paragraph being a prime cut of how OT I go)

Anyhoo, unlike most people I still waste every MDMA/ MDA (I would love either at this stage) experience on electronic music and the social interactions that the drugs empathogenic effects make so pleasant. Preferably this would have been at some sort of discotechnical sweat box or 10,000 + extravaganza along the same lines but as long as the music is right or under my total control.

But having no life or any friends left I last went out when my favourite Birmingham based club called it a day after 19 years at the top of both the UK and International upfront club nights and showcase type rave events (they used the Point Depot at least once) , having been a regular at their weekly Friday nights from May 1998 (a month or so after they opened) until 2005, when the scenes contraction saw the nights become monthly within 18 months and after selling off 2 major assets that had been important in how they were defined as the new millennium started, a dance music festival that managed to attract 140,000 people across their original 4, 18 hour events from 2001 - 2004 and the 2000 capacity. designer club they built approx. 400 meters or so from their original home on Digbeth High Street, just outside the City Centre.

This is why I should not post. After their series of closing parties in Sydney and Melbourne, they finished off with a final Friday at their first B'ham home on the 3/6/2016 (yes, Twenty Sixteen). Despite a 35 year obsession with house and techno music that predates my high school, never mind drug use, I have not been out for a boogie woog since. Although I am positive I can get some perfectly functional crystalline MDMA or a couple of the super strong but super expensive yips I believe are the current options I cannot stand being on my own. I do not need anyone to come with me but I need to be in a social environment when giving it the big ponse up while on MDXX.

It depends on what you mainly consider the best use of the drug, but in my pathetic case its about the music first and a bit of good if not necessarily constant company as a close second.
 
So lots of sex then, ok cool :ROFLMAO:

Does it cause palpitations? I used to get crazy palps when I'd try to sleep after a night of pills so there's no way at my age now I'd be fit for that, don't wanna end up carted off in an ambulance at 5am :LOL:

My only worry obviously is ya never really know the strength of what you're getting sometimes, does sound like a nice buzz though.

Are there any prescription pills that give a nice high? Maybe I can fake an injury with my doc =D
If you dose too high, or if you take normal dosages but don't space them out enough, your heart rate will go up, happened to me a couple times but it was nothing extreme I just lied down for 30 min and was good to resume sex after that.
I also was on quite a bit of Cialis which can make this problem worse.
But again nothing happens unless you make a mistake with your dosing/redosing, and I was always at least 6 hours deep into the session when it happened.
 
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