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(MDAI/250 mgs)+(MPA/100 mgs) First time

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Me and some friends decided to try this combo on for size last Friday night. I've had it lying about for a while but as I've had other stuff to fall back on and due to the mix of reports I've had it stashed away only to be used when nothing else is available. Which is exactly what happened last Friday.

I had been doing a few lines of cokes and about 6 beers before we got back to mine to try this. When getting back we took 250mg each of the mdai mixed with about 100mg of the MPA.

I have a rediculous tolerance for drugs so I didn't notice anything until about 40 minutes in, by which time all my friends were already really feeling it.

Comes up VERY slowly. We all started to feel a little more loved up and more chatty although I deffinately wouldn't say it was a stim. I'm guessing the MPA was responsible for being more chatty and the MDAI was responsible for the smiles on our faces.

It felt very similar to MDMA but without the clarity I get from MDMA. About 3 hours into it we decided to take another 200mg bomb and effects were similar. Just felt very loved up. after staying up for 6 hours talking noncense I was convinced I would be purchasing lots more of this stuff. I would say it's the closest feeling I've got to taking MDMA.

Now comes the reason I decided to write my trip report.

Saturday I was fine. Went out for drinks and thought I had got away without any comedown. Sunday day I was also ok.

Sunday evening however came along and I have never experienced a comedown like it. Physically apart from dizzyness I was fine but mentally I was knocked for six.

It's hard to put into words but it was like I suddenly was no longer in my life and I was experiencing someone elses. While sat in my flat it no longer felt like my flat, my wife seemed like a stranger. Even doing every day things like walking, eating drinking no longer felt normal. I also had quite a bit of paranoia and sleep did not come easy.

The next day was exactly the same and I got a call from my two friends who were experiencing the same feelings. My one friend said she got halfway to work and had to sit down to take deep breaths just to carry on walking as she was freaking out at the way walking felt and how she felt like she was an imposter in her own life. These feelings lasted in all four of us until Wednesday.

The rest of the MDAI/MPA is in the bin. The comedown outweighed the high by several magnitudes. Worst I've felt.
 
Since you had this combo, I can make a pretty good guess as to where got both substances. 450 mg of that MDAI is an absolutely heroic dose. I use 200 mg of it and it is a very strong and awesome experience. However, I had a friend take 400 mg by accident (mixed up gel caps) and they ended up blacking out halfway through the night and were extremely overwhelmed. They also felt off for the next few days. 450 mg... I can't even imagine. A lot of the MDAI reports on this site are from when much of the MDAI going around was less than 50% pure. If you got it from the same place you got the MPA from, 450 mg was quite a reckless dose.
 
stevein7 said:
maybe the combo is ok, the doses were too too high.
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Agreed!

&, as with the above post, please be much more careful combining new substances!

Having said that, this combo does sound good & I'll probably try it myself. I'd take 50mg MDAI (swallowed) & 10mg of mpa (snorted) an hour in. I'm hoping for a subtle experience, obviously.
 
i thought i would mention, after taking 500mg mdai last week, i felt very very dizzy for a week. actually i still feel a bit dizzy. fuck that shit
 
I'm small physically, & sensitive to chems but 500mgs still sounds like a monumental dose. How long would such a hit last, was it in seperate doses & if so, for how long???

I'd EXPECT to be a bit ill after a sesh like that! I'm not criticizing, just extrapolating that bigger doses equals longer, stronger hangover???
 
People should keep in mind that pure MDAI is nearly as potent as MDMA when it comes to the release of serotonin. If you have the good stuff, don't dose much more than you would MDMA unless you want to feel like shit. MDAI is great if you want to experience most of the magic of MDMA without the stimulation or bad comedown. If you keep the dose under 200 mg, you will have a great night and you'll be able to function the next day.
 
I have to agree, if you're sensible with the doses you can have a great time on this combo.

A few times now I've done 2 x 100mg bombs of MDAI followed by about 2 x 50mg MPA insufflated and that's been enough for a very pleasant evening with booze. No gurning or stroking people's hair - just a very sociable in-control high that lasts about five hours, and I can usually manage about four hours sleep about fours hours after the last sniff of MPA. Works out very cheaply at those doses too.

Just go easy as MDAI can really suck your brain dry!
 
yea thats crazy dosing even if your are very tolerant to drugs, MDAI is very potetn in releasing serotonin just the half life is shorter than mdma combos of 100mg mdai + 30-40mg mpa are good or just take simple amphetamine works even better (if you have acces to any)
 
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heaped tablespoon of kratom, 2x 30/500 codeine tablets plus 70mg mdai, hours and hours of feel good.

One negative, orgasm on kratom is difficult, but one must try.....
 
This is my TR on MDAI & MPA COMBO

I had 206 mg of mpa in 2 lines i didnt feel

anything from the mpa but had vascos and heart felt a bit racey,

added in the mdai i did a 81 mg line then straight after it i did a 350mg bomb

i felt the line fuzzing my brain,,,,,,about 40 minutes later wow this felt nice i liked it

felt really happy and honestly wasnt expecting it to be as good as it was

really enjoyed chatting on irc even though my typos went all to pot

its not the hard smack in the face hit like old jgg but is in its own right

best way i can describe it is its a warm cosy mellow gentle slightly E feeling

even though its mellow and gentle it has a strength to it of its own uniqueness

if that makes bloody sense.

would have preferred a stronger effect (but everyone knows me by now ,lol)

stronger effect may be achievable if i do a 500mg bomb next time i do it cos there will

be a next time & a next time and many other times , it was really nice and cant wait

to try a bigger bomb

even though i would have liked it more intense i still really enjoyed what i got

and for me to get up on a bomb less than 500mg is good

i had dilated pupils in both eyes which i hardly get any more i was gurning ,

eye wobbles and couldn't see properly due to blurriness - lovely

roll on next weekend so i can order a few g's , (it was crystaline mdai)

i have found my new chem mdai as jolly has lost it for me, even though its not that

intense smack in the face and intense rushes like jolly used to give its still really nice

even if jolly does come good for me again i would still do the mdai / mpa too as it has its own place
 
250mg mdai with 400mg mpa

On Thursday night I took a 250mg bomb of mdai and had about 400mg of mpa over the course of the night and had a fairly good time and no real comedown to speak off. Its now Sunday so fingers crossed that's it.
 
Quick Trip Report!!!

These two brilliant rc's are very very good if they are ingested at the perfect ratio!

I oredered 5g of crystally golden mdai (5,6-Methylenedioxy-2-aminoindane) and 1g of white powder mpa (Methiopropamine) mixed the two together which meant each gram had 1g of mdai and 200mg of mpa. PERFECT RATIO!

I had two empty caps so i half filled them with my mix and the weighed 75mg each.

T-40Mins after first cap, feeling started to kick in but only felt happy took second cap.

T-1Hr30Mins Feeling very euphoric and really happy, could dance for hours.

Since this is just a "Quickie" im going to finish this here and pick up later when i can think with more clarity!

Cheers
 
blue_bomber said:
On Thursday night I took a 250mg bomb of mdai and had about 400mg of mpa over the course of the night and had a fairly good time and no real comedown to speak off. Its now Sunday so fingers crossed that's it.
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400 mg of MPA is a huge amount of MPA, got to tell people to watch out with this kind of dosing, especially with this particular product...
 
killermunchies said:
People should keep in mind that pure MDAI is nearly as potent as MDMA when it comes to the release of serotonin. If you have the good stuff, don't dose much more than you would MDMA unless you want to feel like shit. MDAI is great if you want to experience most of the magic of MDMA without the stimulation or bad comedown. If you keep the dose under 200 mg, you will have a great night and you'll be able to function the next day.
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IMO this is spot on...
 
Some trip reports indicate bizarrely severe, alarming after-effects with MPA, and little to no research has been conducted on the compound. While some experimental animal models suggest MDAI to lack MDMA's serotonergic neurotoxicity, trip reports imply that overuse causes what you'd expect from 5ht depletion a la MDMA, only a bit more forgiving (but no more forgiving or less neurotoxic in combo with a stim).

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